webfact Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 PHOTO: Wisarn Sangjaroen / Top News By Goong Nang(GN) Chonburi – A 15-year-old boy has died while a 13-year-old boy has sustained severe injuries after a pickup truck collided with their motorbike in the Phan Thong district over the past weekend. Emergency responders were notified of the accident on the Phan Thong – Ban Bueng Road in the Nong Hong sub-district. First responders arrived at the scene to find the 13-year-old boy and 15-year-old boy lying on the road. They had both sustained severe injuries. The 15-year-old-teenager was later pronounced dead at the scene by medical teams. Full story: https://thepattayanews.com/2022/01/31/15-year-old-boy-dies-13-year-old-boy-seriously-injured-after-pickup-truck-collides-with-motorbike-in-chonburi/ -- © Copyright The Pattaya News 2022-01-31 - Aetna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr Meeseeks Posted January 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2022 As per the full article, it seems as if the pickup has pulled out without looking, and the bike has hit it. Bike has racing mods, suspension, tyres etc, so we can assume it was not being driven in a careful or proper manner either. And... the carnage continues. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffggi Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 45 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said: As per the full article, it seems as if the pickup has pulled out without looking, and the bike has hit it. Bike has racing mods, suspension, tyres etc, so we can assume it was not being driven in a careful or proper manner either. And... the carnage continues. Difficult to really know what happened, night time did the bike have it's lights on or as you suggest did the pickup pull out without looking needs to be confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) Sad and hard to comment. No witnesses? One dead motorbike rider out of 21 yesterday. (and that is a very quiet day compared to the pre Covid past, schools closed seems to save many lives but not for Covid reasons!) News only in the Pattaya tabloids. Would notice here only if the smoke rises and the bangers go off at the crematorium. Edited January 31, 2022 by KhunBENQ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ikke1959 Posted January 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2022 15 year is too young to ride on a motorbike that is not speedlimited... Kids Think it is brave to race and they can't see the dangers that can happen... Besides that there is no education for drivers of any vehicle too..Sometimes people look hypnotized if they ride on a motorcycle, only staring into the nothing...and cars.... yeah there is written a lot about it already 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, ikke1959 said: 15 year is too young to ride on a motorbike that is not speedlimited... Tell that to the authorities. By theory the 15yr old could have a license to ride a 110ccm "small" bike. They go close to 100 km/h (>60 mph) unmodified. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DezLez Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said: Tell that to the authorities. By theory the 15yr old could have a license to ride a 110ccm "small" bike. They go close to 100 km/h (>60 mph) unmodified. Is that true that a 15Yo can legally drive a motorbike of 110CC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunBENQ Posted January 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, DezLez said: Is that true that a 15Yo can legally drive a motorbike of 110CC Yes. It's limited to 110ccm until 20yr old (legally). Was doing my motorcycle license from scratch in 2017 and was the old fart sitting with many under 18. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Bike has racing mods, suspension, tyres etc, so we can assume it was not being driven in a careful or proper manner either. What's all this "we can assume..."? You can assume that, you could also assume that is was being ridden in a proper manner given no evidence otherwise. "The pickup truck driver, Mr. Jeerasak Gornkorn, 36, told TPN media, “I was unable to see the motorbike when I was crossing the road in my pickup truck.” Edited January 31, 2022 by Liverpool Lou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DezLez Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said: Yes. It's limited to 110ccm until 20yr old (legally). Was doing my motorcycle license from scratch in 2017 and was the old fart sitting with many under 18. OMG! At what age can they start on what size bike or is it 15yo & 110CC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DezLez Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 I hope the parents of the 13yo did not know/allow him to get on the bike with a 15yo driver or is that also normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2long Posted January 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2022 We can all make assumptions here.. - pick up driver not looking or having tinted windows - kids riding too fast, maybe without lights on But the sad reality is that this happens all too often and two young lads will never become men. But what's even sadder is that probably no one will learn from this 'news' and change their ways. ???????? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 48 minutes ago, Geoffggi said: Difficult to really know what happened, night time did the bike have it's lights on or as you suggest did the pickup pull out without looking needs to be confirmed. Seems as as though it's lights were on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 27 minutes ago, ikke1959 said: 15 year is too young to ride on a motorbike that is not speedlimited... He was riding an engine size-limited bike, not prohibited to 15-year olds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 17 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said: 19 minutes ago, DezLez said: Is that true that a 15Yo can legally drive a motorbike of 110CC Yes. It's limited to 110ccm until 20yr old (legally). 18, not 20, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, DezLez said: 19 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said: Yes. It's limited to 110ccm until 20yr old (legally). Was doing my motorcycle license from scratch in 2017 and was the old fart sitting with many under 18. OMG! At what age can they start on what size bike or is it 15yo & 110CC? It's 15 riding a bike under 110cc, 18 for any larger engine size. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 10 minutes ago, DezLez said: I hope the parents of the 13yo did not know/allow him to get on the bike with a 15yo driver or is that also normal? Normal and not illegal if licenced. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Bike has racing mods, suspension, tyres etc, so we can assume it was not being driven in a careful or proper manner either. It was being driven by a child.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, DezLez said: I hope the parents of the 13yo did not know/allow him to get on the bike with a 15yo driver or is that also normal? How do you know which one was driving? Ah, I see, reportedly the 15yo... reported by who? Not the pick-up driver, he didn't see the bike! Edited January 31, 2022 by jacko45k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2long Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, jacko45k said: It was being driven by a child.... But a 15 year old can legally ride a small bike here in Thailand. I was doing it illegally a lot younger than that 'back in the day.' Whether or not he had a licence, a properly-registered bike, was wearing a helmet and driving within safe limits are all open to speculation. I'm just as likely to 'assume' the pickup driver pulled out in front of him as I am to say he was riding dangerously. We will never know. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2long Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, jacko45k said: How do you know which one was driving? "The older boy was reportedly the motorbike driver, the younger boy was a passenger." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, 2long said: But a 15 year old can legally ride a small bike here in Thailand. I was doing it illegally a lot younger than that 'back in the day.' Whether or not he had a licence, a properly-registered bike, was wearing a helmet and driving within safe limits are all open to speculation. I'm just as likely to 'assume' the pickup driver pulled out in front of him as I am to say he was riding dangerously. We will never know. Did he have a licence that you are aware of...? Anyhow, 15 is still a child surely. Yes vehicles will pull out in front of bikes often.... then claim not to have seen them, despite the garish paint job. Edited January 31, 2022 by jacko45k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DezLez Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, jacko45k said: How do you know which one was driving? It says he was in the story from Pattaya News as quoted in the OP! "The older boy was reportedly the motorbike driver, the younger boy was a passenger." Edited January 31, 2022 by DezLez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, 2long said: "The older boy was reportedly the motorbike driver, the younger boy was a passenger." Thank You.... I did read the PN report but heck what can I say, old age! Edited January 31, 2022 by jacko45k 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 35 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: 1 hour ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Bike has racing mods, suspension, tyres etc, so we can assume it was not being driven in a careful or proper manner either. What's all this "we can assume..."? You can assume that, you could also assume that is was being ridden in a proper manner given no evidence otherwise. "The pickup truck driver, Mr. Jeerasak Gornkorn, 36, told TPN media, “I was unable to see the motorbike when I was crossing the road in my pickup truck.” Can we therefore also assume that the ‘tint’ on the pickup was too dark ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: 41 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: 2 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Bike has racing mods, suspension, tyres etc, so we can assume it was not being driven in a careful or proper manner either. What's all this "we can assume..."? You can assume that, you could also assume that is was being ridden in a proper manner given no evidence otherwise. "The pickup truck driver, Mr. Jeerasak Gornkorn, 36, told TPN media, “I was unable to see the motorbike when I was crossing the road in my pickup truck.” Can we therefore also assume that the ‘tint’ on the pickup was too dark ???? What tint are you making assumptions about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvs Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 17 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: What tint are you making assumptions about? Windshield i would imagine,dark tint is very dangerous at night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 20 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: 23 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: 1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said: 2 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Bike has racing mods, suspension, tyres etc, so we can assume it was not being driven in a careful or proper manner either. What's all this "we can assume..."? You can assume that, you could also assume that is was being ridden in a proper manner given no evidence otherwise. "The pickup truck driver, Mr. Jeerasak Gornkorn, 36, told TPN media, “I was unable to see the motorbike when I was crossing the road in my pickup truck.” Expand Can we therefore also assume that the ‘tint’ on the pickup was too dark ???? Expand What tint are you making assumptions about? The legal tint level in Thailand is 30% (i.e. blocks 30% of visible light). I had 20% of my windscreen and side window, 30% on rear side window and and rear window. Now... How many cars do you see driving around without tint ?.... how many do you see driving around with tint which isn’t clearly too dark ??.... I know you will want to present an inane argument that we can’t possibly know that because we don’t test every car... that level of facetiousness is directly out of your obfuscation playbook.... We can either go off the reports which are extremely limited on information... we don’t know if the boys were wearing helmets or not etc... we don’t know if the tint was too dark etc... we don’t know if the boys were ghost riding, we don’t know if the boys were speeding or not etc.... BUT.... we can make reasonable assumptions based on what we witness on a daily basis.... and when an accident such as this occurs it is a fair assumption that the boys were speeding, they had no helmets on and the tint on the pickup was too dark which is why the driver didn’t see the motorcycle..... I am also making the reasonable assumption that you would argue black is white because you read it in a report. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikke1959 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said: He was riding an engine size-limited bike, not prohibited to 15-year olds. He is just too young.......first an education and a decent test and than on the road..... But most kids learn to drive early and make mistakes and it is almost impossible to correct the things they wrongly learned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 32 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: The legal tint level in Thailand is 30% (i.e. blocks 30% of visible light). There are currently no legal specification for window tints in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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