Police charges against top cop’s Porsche driving son at the centre of fatal Bangkok car accident

[Jimbo53]

21 hours ago, Dukeleto said:

And boy oh boy there are some incredibly wealthy people in Thailand. Can anyone give me an example of the same in the west where a “top cop” is one of the countries wealthiest men?

The closest one i can think of to that would be "Batman" lol.

[jacko45k]

7 hours ago, impulse said:

Just curious how you know it wasn't the scooter driver's fault?

Haven't you read the link in the original post on this? The car driver admitted to a sudden lane change ....

It is reported that Mr Pornmet, the 3rd and youngest son of Ms Jiratha Songmetta and Police General Wirachai, hit the Yamaha Fino motorcycle from the rear while making a sudden lane switch on the motorway.

[CrunchWrapSupreme]

23 hours ago, Dukeleto said:

an example of the same in the west where a “top cop” is one of the countries wealthiest men?

Akin to college football coaches being the highest paid public employees in many US states. Misplaced priorities. In Thailand the cops are busy enriching themselves rather than upholding the law. In the US American Football enjoys religious status, while education goes neglected.

[impulse]

12 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Haven't you read the link in the original post on this? The car driver admitted to a sudden lane change ....

It is reported that Mr Pornmet, the 3rd and youngest son of Ms Jiratha Songmetta and Police General Wirachai, hit the Yamaha Fino motorcycle from the rear while making a sudden lane switch on the motorway.

Good info.  I confess I didn't read it.  Hence, my question. 

 

The quality of crime reporting in Thailand is usually so bad...  This one was an anomaly.

 

I still wonder how most of the guys here would feel if their loved one got banged up for 20 years for an accident, as some have demanded for this guy.  That kind of time should be reserved for crimes with malicious intent.

 

[jacko45k]

1 minute ago, impulse said:

I still wonder how most of the guys here would feel if their loved one got banged up for 20 years for an accident, as some have demanded for this guy.  That kind of time should be reserved for crimes with malicious intent.

He will be charged with reckless driving and someone has died, I think there needs to be some recourse 

[SAFETY FIRST]

29 minutes ago, impulse said:

Good info.  I confess I didn't read it.  Hence, my question

I understand, it was an impulsive question. 

????

[ThailandRyan]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

Good info.  I confess I didn't read it.  Hence, my question. 

 

The quality of crime reporting in Thailand is usually so bad...  This one was an anomaly.

 

I still wonder how most of the guys here would feel if their loved one got banged up for 20 years for an accident, as some have demanded for this guy.  That kind of time should be reserved for crimes with malicious intent.

 

In the US its either called Murder 3 or Manslaughter which can be either with or without gross negligence.  A manslaughter charge with Gross negligence would be for someone who was driving recklessly with wanton disregard for the public, or under the influence of alcohol or an illegal substance that would be a potential prison sentence of up to 10 years depending on the issues involved.  A Manslaughter charge without gross negligence could be anywhere from probation up to 5 years with parole and probation after 2 years or as directed by the courts.  Driving licenses are then also suspended and more penalties charged.  In the end no one wins.

 

How a Thai court will deal with this one is anybody's guess at this point in time.  A complete and true investigation needs to be completed first, and speculation of what may or may not have happened should be dispensed with.  I am not saying that an investigation will not be complete and thorough as I hope it is for both sides families.  I have only pointed out in my posts what it appears happened from the photos seen.

Edited March 15, 2022 by ThailandRyan

[Liverpool Lou]

20 hours ago, jacko45k said:

23 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

or anything else that makes him a brat?   Or is he a brat in your mind simply because he's got a bit of money?

No, because daddy bought him a Porche! 

Makes me green with envy!

He is an owner of the SET-listed company, probably doesn't need anyone to buy the car for him!

[Liverpool Lou]

19 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

I will have to disagree with your hypothesis based upon 30+ years in LE as a major incident and Accident investigator trained in TAR 1 and TAR 2 and having conducted over 1000 fatal traffic accidents. 

"...based upon 30+ years in LE".

Do you have to reference your vast experience in almost every post that you make?   So were a million other people, give it a rest, we know you were a cop.   Be careful not to pull a muscle with all that patting yourself on the back.

 

"...having conducted over 1000 fatal traffic accidents".

Were you charged for "conducting those 1000 fatal RTAs"?

 

Edited March 15, 2022 by Liverpool Lou

[Liverpool Lou]

18 hours ago, hughrection said:

On 3/14/2022 at 6:19 AM, RJRS1301 said:

AAF was established since November, 2010 with a registered capital of 1,200 million Baht (33 million USD)

OK, so where did the startup money come from?  Just saying.

The current registered capital of a company is not necessarily the initial registered capital which can be increased over time and not all of the registered capital has to be paid up.   Registered capital is not working capital.

[Liverpool Lou]

18 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Charging. Does that mean he will be convicted? And if so, does that mean he would ever spend any time in prison? Those of us who know how above the law these rich clowns are, seriously doubt it. 

 

Wonder if dad will be as well respected now that his son has killed. And even worse, killed and caught. 

Courts decide on convictions, not the police making the charges.

 

"Wonder if dad will be as well respected now that his son has killed. And even worse, killed and caught".

He didn't go out to kill the man, he may have been the cause of an accident that resulted in a death.   He wasn't "caught", he didn't have to be caught, he waited for the police to arrive.

 

Why should his father be any less respected just because his son was involved in a fatal accident, what's his father got to do with it?

[Liverpool Lou]

18 hours ago, hughrection said:

18 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

Some folks even in Thailand have inherited wealth or family wealth. his wife is also very astute

OK, so where did her money come from??

What the duck's that got to do with anyone, even people as (self-) important as Thaivisa posters?

[Liverpool Lou]

17 hours ago, Sydebolle said:

Once a police general, always a police general. Despite his inactivity in the police force he is still running around town being called "General".

He is still an active police officer and entitled to be referred to by his rank.

[Liverpool Lou]

17 hours ago, mrfill said:

"Porsche Taycan Turbo"

 

So, how do you turbocharge a fully electric vehicle?

You don't.  "Turbo" is Porsche's indicator of the higher performance version, it does not say "turbochrged".   

 

There are many products named "Turbo" most of which don't even have engines, it doesn't mean that they have to have turbochargers.

[RJRS1301]

11 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

What the duck's that got to do with anyone, even people as (self-) important as Thaivisa posters?

did you read the post I was replying to?

 

Edited March 15, 2022 by RJRS1301

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

You don't.  "Turbo" is Porsche's indicator of the higher performance version, it does not say "turbochrged".   

 

There are many products named "Turbo" most of which don't even have engines, it doesn't mean that they have to have turbochargers.

You are on fire (turbo-charged one might say) today......555

[Liverpool Lou]

4 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

14 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

What the duck's that got to do with anyone, even people as (self-) important as Thaivisa posters?

did you read the post I was replying to?

I may have but I was, clearly, commenting on hughrection's post that referenced yours, not your post.

Edited March 15, 2022 by Liverpool Lou

[Liverpool Lou]

6 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

8 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

You don't.  "Turbo" is Porsche's indicator of the higher performance version, it does not say "turbochrged".   

 

There are many products named "Turbo" most of which don't even have engines, it doesn't mean that they have to have turbochargers.

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You are on fire (turbo-charged one might say) today......555

...just warming up, full boost later.

Edited March 15, 2022 by Liverpool Lou

[Will B Good]

3 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

...just warming up, full boost later.

Not the afterburners though.....that will be too much surely?

[Liverpool Lou]

2 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

6 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

...just warming up, full boost later.

Not the afterburners though.....that will be too much surely?

You never know!

[spidermike007]

50 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Courts decide on convictions, not the police making the charges.

 

"Wonder if dad will be as well respected now that his son has killed. And even worse, killed and caught".

He didn't go out to kill the man, he may have been the cause of an accident that resulted in a death.   He wasn't "caught", he didn't have to be caught, he waited for the police to arrive.

 

Why should his father be any less respected just because his son was involved in a fatal accident, what's his father got to do with it?

Sometimes accidents are just accidents. Sometimes, they involve reckless driving, speeding and intoxicants. One can place a different moral judgment on killing a man in an accident, if he were driving carefully, paying attention and sober, instead of the former. If it is found that the son was drunk or high, or driving at excessive speed, that could and should reflect poorly on dad. 

 

And though you are right about the courts being a seperate thing from the police, we all know they are infamous for being "easily influenced". 

Edited March 15, 2022 by spidermike007

[Liverpool Lou]

9 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Sometimes accidents are just accidents. Sometimes, they involve reckless driving, speeding and intoxicants. One can place a different moral judgment on killing a man in an accident, if he were driving carefully, paying attention and sober, instead of the former. If it is found that the son was drunk or high, or driving at excessive speed, that could and should reflect poorly on dad. 

 

And though you are right about the courts being a seperate thing from the police, we all know they are infamous for being "easily influenced". 

You were doing well there until you strayed into that stereotypical Thaivisa monstrosity, "we all know"!

[jacko45k]

3 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

He is an owner of the SET-listed company, probably doesn't need anyone to buy the car for him!

Needed someone to give him a job! He should get a chauffeur!

[Sydebolle]

20 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

He is still an active police officer and entitled to be referred to by his rank.

I stand corrected, thank you! 

[Paul Kernell]

I flashed my lights and he didn't get out of the way. His fault.

[fusion58]

On 3/14/2022 at 3:17 AM, webfact said:

The father of the driver, Police General Wirachai Songmetta is one of Thailand’s most respected police officers and also one of the country’s wealthiest men.

Translation: “The son will walk away without even so much as a slap on the wrist.”

[fusion58]

On 3/15/2022 at 5:57 AM, jacko45k said:

He will be charged with reckless driving and someone has died, I think there needs to be some recourse 

Perhaps if the victim wasn’t a foreign national or if his father was someone  higher in the Thai pecking order.