Rottweiler owner reneges on compensation agreement after nine year old boy is savaged by three dogs

[Will B Good]

23 minutes ago, robblok said:

Im ok with people having such dogs if they can keep them at their own house with land and away from people. Or when they walk with them on a leash. Otherwise they can be a danger as the potential damage can be huge.

 

My 25kg bangkaew im sure i could overpower him (he would do damage to me for sure) but im not so sure i could overpower a 50-60 kg rottweiler (not without weapons anyway and not without a lot of damage)

Spot on.....these are huge beasts and needed to be treated as such....muzzled and on leads in public, collared all the time.

 

 

[Neeranam]

18 hours ago, billsmart said:

As for the incident, I read that son was fishing, which is attempting to hook fish in their mouths, drag them through the water, stick a rope through their mouth and out their gills, and leave them floundering around in the water in an attempt to keep them alive so they can then have their bellies slit open, their organs removed, and finally left to die.

It's alight to fish as they don't have any feelings.

[Confuscious]

I don't condone what the dogs did to this kid and I am not a fan of "people who never grown up out of the 7 year stage of their life" to keep dangerous animals as pets.

This said, every story has 2 sides and I would like to hear the side of story of this kid.
Was he doing something that had provoke the dogs?
If he was with other children gone fishing, why was he attacked by the dogs and not the other kids?

Hope this kid will get a good recovery and learned a good lesson in life about avoiding trouble with someone who is stronger as you are.

[Neeranam]

2 minutes ago, Confuscious said:

I don't condone what the dogs did to this kid and I am not a fan of "people who never grown up out of the 7 year stage of their life" to keep dangerous animals as pets.

This said, every story has 2 sides and I would like to hear the side of story of this kid.
Was he doing something that had provoke the dogs?
If he was with other children gone fishing, why was he attacked by the dogs and not the other kids?

Hope this kid will get a good recovery and learned a good lesson in life about avoiding trouble with someone who is stronger as you are.

Confuscius says, "you never have to explain what is right, but if you find yourself trying to explain and justify something, you are wrong."

[chrissables]

1 hour ago, Will B Good said:

Calm down dear, calm down.

I am mate, Rottweilers were bred as cattle herders originally and by nature docile. But they are big strong dogs and need looking after. ???? 

[chrissables]

21 hours ago, tomacht8 said:

In my country there are a lot of restrictions on keeping so-called dangerous dogs.

In addition to a ban on keeping certain breeds, breed-specific restrictions on keeping are possible. In terms of the owner, this can mean, for example, that they are of legal age, that they have a certificate of good conduct or that they are required to take a specialist test (colloquially known as a dog handler’s license). When it comes to keeping the dog, other special regulations such as a leash requirement, a muzzle requirement, a chip requirement, insurance requirements, a permit requirement, the requirement to sterilize the dog, the requirement to securely fence off the property on which the dog is kept, or passing a character test for dogs may be prescribed.

Here 15 years old drive cars with no license, you think they can regulate dog ownership? 5555555

[Neeranam]

1 minute ago, chrissables said:

Here 15 years old drive cars with no license, you think they can regulate dog ownership? 5555555

Yes, by building up a narrative that these animals(and their owners) are evil, and how to eradicate them(the dogs), they will disappear. 

[kcpattaya]

What a dog...

[chrissables]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Yes, by building up a narrative that these animals(and their owners) are evil, and how to eradicate them(the dogs), they will disappear. 

It's a great idea, but so is stopping road deaths which they can't or won't.

[jacko45k]

3 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Again, seems the issue falls on the owners, not the dogs.  Keep a vicious pet, keep it contained.  Own a gun, lock it up.  Drive a 1 ton vehicle, drive it properly.  Not rocket science.

 

Isn't much debate about the owner (self admittedly) being an idiot.  OP is about not receiving compensation agreed upon, if news-blip is to be believed.

 

Dogs are domesticated = easily trainable.  It's not an elephant, lion or tiger.  

 

 

Ah so you agree this is a vicious pet... we are also talking of Thailand where personal responsibility is lacking. These dogs are far from being domesticated and seem to have a taste for human blood.... best the area is made safer for people an they are put down. Need a guard dog, get a Pomeranian.. they make plenty noise.

 

Not sure what on earth elephants, lions and tigers have to do with this! Of course all are trainable...remember when a circus had them!

Edited March 16, 2022 by jacko45k

[KhunLA]

2 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Ah so you agree this is a vicious pet... we are also talking of Thailand where personal responsibility is lacking. These dogs are far from being domesticated and seem to have a taste for human blood.... best the area is made safer for people an they are put down. Need a guard dog, get a Pomeranian.. they make plenty noise.

Silly

If we're having a conversation, leave the silliness out.  It's a dog, it's domesticated ... period.  Being vicious is a learned trait.  Whether by human, or running in a wild pack.

 

Dog referred to in OP seems to fit the 'vicious pet' description.  The owner is completely at fault.  Irresponsible people shouldn't have pets, or kids for that matter.

 

Have a nice day

[jacko45k]

5 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Being vicious is a learned trait.

Wrong, feral or fearful dogs become that way naturally. As I said, which you missed, many Thai dog owners are not responsible.... but the dogs did the damage, had his chickens got out, the kid would not have been mauled.

Edited March 16, 2022 by jacko45k

[KhunLA]

3 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Wrong, feral or fearful dogs become that way naturally. As I said, which you missed, many Thai dog owners are not responsible.... but the dogs did the damage, had his chickens got out, the kid would not have been mauled.

Have a nice day

[jacko45k]

Just now, KhunLA said:

Have a nice day

Fine so far, you too. 

[RafPinto]

Where I live, I see a farang walking his pitbull.
He looks really like a "criminal". Shaved head, tattoos, bodybuilder and walking his pitbull.
Some people, you can see by far which background they have.

[Will B Good]

5 minutes ago, RafPinto said:

Where I live, I see a farang walking his pitbull.
He looks really like a "criminal". Shaved head, tattoos, bodybuilder 

What does the farang look like?

Edited March 16, 2022 by Will B Good

[jacko45k]

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

What does the faring look like?

Sounds like a pit-bull with ink!

[Will B Good]

2 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Sounds like a pit-bull with ink!

Reelly need to check my spulling, before prissing sund

[RafPinto]

7 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

What does the farang look like?

A bit like you, without hair 555

[Will B Good]

5 minutes ago, RafPinto said:

A bit like you, without hair 555

5555.....lucky boy....must be a babe magnet.

[Harveyboy]

On 3/15/2022 at 10:07 AM, Dmaxdan said:

 The dogs need to be put down, closely followed by the owner. 

 

 

my opinion exactly

[Harveyboy]

22 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

What does the farang look like?

that must be a horrible looking dog 

[Will B Good]

3 minutes ago, Harveyboy said:

my opinion exactly

...and who the hell 'needs' three huge dogs like that?......Particularly in this climate, it must be murder for them.

[billsmart]

3 hours ago, Neeranam said:

It's alight to fish as they don't have any feelings.

Yeah, I think I've heard that before too. That guy's dead now. He committed suicide. No rottweilers were involved. ????

[jacko45k]

2 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Being vicious is a learned trait. 

Or a factor of breed....

Numbers two through six are easier. They are, in order: pit bull, mixed breed, German shepherd, terrier, and rottweiler.

 

[KhunLA]

50 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Or a factor of breed....

Numbers two through six are easier. They are, in order: pit bull, mixed breed, German shepherd, terrier, and rottweiler.

 

Not sure what bite strength or how many incidents has to do with 'learned traits'.  What you replied to.

You seem to struggle staying on topic with your replies.

Topic with me is; 'bad owner' = 'bad dog'  or

dog = domesticated / not vicious unless trained to be.

 

All dogs are protective of their home & owners, and the responsibility of the owner to control pet if overly aggressive.

 

Mine have always been protective, and you never would approach me or touch aggressively when my dog was there.  You would get bit, and they would get a treat & a good massage for biting your A$$.

 

Consider those to be calm breeds; Beagle (mix), Cardigan W. Corgi, damn fuzzy Jack Russell (mix)

 

Not trained to be aggressive, or even protective, just my buddy observing & reacting.  Same as me, hurt my dog at my house, and you won't be leaving.  Just being protective.  We're good that way.

 

 

Edited March 16, 2022 by KhunLA

[jacko45k]

39 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

All dogs are protective of their home & owners

These dogs were nowhere near their home nor owner, but had got out. 

As you say though, it is dog owners who are often the problem, as I see you advocate and support your dogs attacking randomly.

41 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

You would get bit, and they would get a treat & a good massage for biting your A$$.

 

[richard_smith237]

41 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Not sure what bite strength or how many incidents has to do with 'learned traits'.  What you replied to.

You seem to struggle staying on topic with your replies.

Topic with me is; 'bad owner' = 'bad dog'  or

dog = domesticated / not vicious unless trained to be.

 

All dogs are protective of their home & owners, and the responsibility of the owner to control pet if overly aggressive.

 

Mine have always been protective, and you never would approach me or touch aggressively when my dog was there.  You would get bit, and they would get a treat & a good massage for biting your A$$.

 

Consider those to be calm breeds; Beagle (mix), Cardigan W. Corgi, damn fuzzy Jack Russell (mix)

 

Not trained to be aggressive, or even protective, just my buddy observing & reacting.  Same as me, hurt my dog at my house, and you won't be leaving.  Just being protective.  We're good that way.

 

 

Some animals are naturally more aggressive than others. 

Some breeds of dogs are naturally more aggressive than others. 

 

When there is a combination of size and natural aggressiveness the failings of responsible ownership result in the consequences we end up discussing so frequently on this forum. 

 

 

What do we also see??....  Something like the above comments "hurt my dog at my house, and you won't be leaving”....   

 

Its just strange how some people start creating their own hypothetical situations to flex their muscles on an anonymous forum.... the mentality is flawed but the ‘marker is there’.....  the personality trait explains why some would have the type of animal that can readily inflict damage on another person. 

 

’Tough man complex’......         are these sorts of characters really true dog lovers?, or do the love the perceived image by owning the more physical dogs with a more dangerous reputation ???

 

 

Looking at the UK....   The ’tough areas’.... (i.e. areas which are more under privileged) are more likely to have ‘ripper’ the lovable pitty snarling at the gate.....   

 

 

 

 

 

[KhunLA]

1 minute ago, jacko45k said:

These dogs were nowhere near their home nor owner, but had got out. 

As you say though, it is dog owners who are often the problem, as I see you advocate and support your dogs attacking randomly.

 

We're almost in agreement ... That would be 'always the problem'

 

Don't know how you read, 'I advocate my dog to attack randomly'.   Do you reply, troll just for a response ?  Or do you seriously have a reading comprehension problem.

 

No dog of mine has ever attacked randomly, or would I condone it.  That's just silly.  She will kill any lizard or crab she sees, if I'm not paying attention.  I taught her to leave frogs & toads alone ???? That could be dangerous to her.  Snakes, I think she already knew about.  Don't approach.

 

I do reward my dog for protecting me, mine & house.  That is her part time job.  Didn't even have to train her to do that.

[KhunLA]

6 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

’Tough man complex’......         are these sorts of characters really true dog lovers?,

NO, these are the characteristic of anyone, anywhere.  Hurt someone's loved ones, and it's a good bet, you'll be sorry you ever knew that person.  That's animal instinct, which we all possess.