ozimoron Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 15 minutes ago, TropicalGuy said: Crimea has always been 80% ethnically Russian & Strategic to Russia ( Black Sea / Med access). All Russian- speaking Ukraine areas should have been retained by Russia pre-Ukraine independence leaving a Free Ukrainian- speaking Western but Non- NATO Neutral “West Ukraine”. To partly correct that gross error Russia should, from its perspective, simply have directly seized / absorbed Donbass & Crimea simultaneously to have somewhat settled the matter which would have avoided this invasion now. What more sanctions could West have then done in addition to Crimea sanctions ? None ?Probably considered but rejected as insufficient power or unacceptable risk to do it. Russian speaking doesn't mean they hold allegiances to Russia. This is a false assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TropicalGuy Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, pedro01 said: Easy to say when your life isn't on the line, eh? It’s not about “my life”. Lives are always “on the line” even in prison like Russians. In such cases what value is an unfree life ? If everyone thought like you we would all be prisoners & slaves forever. Liberty always costs Many Lives. You seem unaware of that or simply would accept being a compliant prisoner/ slave. Pathetic non- argument. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropicalGuy Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Russian speaking doesn't mean they hold allegiances to Russia. This is a false assumption. Not in case of Crimea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 24 minutes ago, TropicalGuy said: Crimea has always been 80% ethnically Russian & Strategic to Russia ( Black Sea / Med access). Really? How Russians Became Crimea's Largest Ethnic Group, In One Haunting Chart https://www.businessinsider.com/crimea-demographics-chart-2014-3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropicalGuy Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, placeholder said: Really? How Russians Became Crimea's Largest Ethnic Group, In One Haunting Chart https://www.businessinsider.com/crimea-demographics-chart-2014-3 I stand corrected! Thanks& Interesting . Replace”80% always ” with “Majority since 1940 after Stalin forcibly exchanged Ukrainians in Crimea with Russians”. ! Apologies…. Appears Crimea historically part of Ukraine which didn’t matter when under USSR but with Ukrainian Independence became a clear anomaly, especially after 2008 NATO declaration re. Ukraine. International Law always shoved aside when Might becomes Right, under perceived Russian National Interest in Crimea’s case. Edited March 30, 2022 by TropicalGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letseng Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 On 3/22/2022 at 10:20 AM, Jimbo53 said: Where was she from? Moscow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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