RmcaIssan Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 If they can't feel confident of opening the borders with Cambodia what hope is there for DMK and BKK? There is no answer to a highly contagious virus that, speaking from experience, will 'takes u out' for 6 to 8 day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sambum Posted March 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 hours ago, hotchilli said: The knee jerk reaction to other countries will kick-in eventually. But before then they'll be wondering how the neigbouring countries have so many more tourists than Thailand, and form a committee to investigate the reasons why. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DRD123 Posted March 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, jacko45k said: Yes, sounds good.... but you know these Westerners, stomp their feet and cry when told to wear a mask! No ones coming to a hot moist tropical country and wearing a mask when dozens of countries have no mandates anymore. Its like telling everyone to wear a diaper in your speedos...enjoy your vacation! 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sambum Posted March 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, sandyf said: Of course it has a purpose, it is a deterrent, and quite effective. Only foreigners think the country cannot survive without them. Why would you need a "deterrent" when TAT wants to rejuvenate the tourist industry? You probably think that the country did perfectly well without tourists (or foreign investment) before, but you tend to forget that without foreign investment and tourist dollars, you would have no TV's, no motor bikes, no buses, no cars, no trucks, no trains and NO MOBILE PHONES! (etc etc!) But of course, you can manage perfectly well without those - can't you? Edited March 24, 2022 by sambum Duplicate text 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LukKrueng Posted March 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, SheikYabodyline said: Scrapped by July 1st? Bang in the middle of swelter season in Thailand and of European and North American summer. What timing! So you prefer they wait till October? 5 hours ago, Scouse123 said: Why on Earth would they open up to Asian countries with inferior vaccines and poorer vaccine rates and not Western countries? There are no interior not superior vaccines, only vaccines makers with lower or higher marketing power/budgets. Respiratory viruses cannot be eradicated by vaccines, but vaccines are much better money makers than medications, and that's the main reason the biggest pharma companies keep pushing for vaccines rather than develop specific COVID medications. Edited March 24, 2022 by onthedarkside misinformation comments removed 2 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bberg Posted March 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2022 Once I can travel to Thailand (and other countries) without having to undergo PCR tests, quarantines, special pass systems etc, etc i will again be a tourist. Until such time I am not going anywhere unless forced by other means. I have traveled ... and I did not enjoy it at all - the insane airline handling of passengers, the insane behaviors experienced in airports for check-in and boarding, lastly the bad experience with pass systems and documentation including being scammed by insurance companies have taught me the lesson, avoid traveling until its clear. Specific for Thailand; I don't want to risk being found COVID19 positive and placed in convid19 "prison" paying up to 10,000 baht daily (reported - not experienced) and insurance don't cover it because it's not a hospital, and not a hotel, because I am not sick! Looking forward to when I can travel again and I will return to Thailand - when, in this context, it's without any ... issues in bureaucracy before traveling (likewise when returning to the country of origin) Hopefully soon and targeting after 1st July this year........hopefully is the word. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, sambum said: Why would you need a "deterrent" when TAT wants to rejuvenate the tourist industry? You probably think that the country did perfectly well without tourists (or foreign investment) before, but you tend to forget that without foreign investment and tourist dollars, you would have no TV's, no motor bikes, no mobile phones, no buses, no trains and NO MOBILE PHONES! (etc etc!) But of course, you can manage perfectly well without those - can't you? A falang perspective, try sticking to the facts. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonaRain Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 I'm fine on Hawaii island, where it hardly got above 1 out of a thousand population. A pandemic low of 35 hospitalizations in the State, 1.1 million population, to Omicron, 200-240 hospitalizations in the State..40 on Hawaii island..now for all the smartys out there..guess what I heard on BBC, (while you were drinking beer-lowers the immune response by the way like sugar) An Omicron and a Delta varient got together in da same cell and made a Deltacron, (not da proper name!) So hold Your horses tight, cause is not over yet. Lucky they open in July! Better odds! Wear a mask! I'm triple vaxed btw Aloha, (be kind to each other!) 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonaRain Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) Hawaii is the most conservative state, run by democrats, Asians, governor Ige is supposedly gonna open March 26, no tests, no quarantine Aloha again Edited March 24, 2022 by KonaRain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RafPinto Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 So, travel sector calls for endemic status. OK, TAT will call it endemic now, daily cases now at 152. Russian war was just a training session. Problems solved and 165 Trillion visitors expected for 2022 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, sandyf said: A falang perspective, try sticking to the facts. Which are? Be honest, check back in your history books (if they have the correct facts) All of the items I mentioned above were invented by farangs, not Thais. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoguy21 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 4 hours ago, TooMuchTime said: This should not happen at all. I have said before to only open up 100% normal for all Asian countries and keep Thaipass in current state for all western countries. Thailand is digging their own grave if they open for everyone. It looks like the grave has already been dug. Just waiting for it to get filled in 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sambum Posted March 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, jacko45k said: Yes, sounds good.... but you know these Westerners, stomp their feet and cry when told to wear a mask! ...ask Anutin, first he wears one, then he doesn't , then he does! Then he says it's not against the law not to wear one, but you can still be fined a hefty amount (up to 20,000 baht) for riding a motor bike without one? (As far as I know - that is the situation at the moment, but laws change so quickly here!) So why should a Westerner/tourist who is triple vaxed, and taken all the "necessary" tests for Covid be a danger because he/she is not wearing a mask? Less of a danger, for instance, than the hundreds of unvaccinated people ("non farangs"!) sneaking/coming across Thailand's borders from neighbouring countries. Edited March 24, 2022 by onthedarkside misinfo comment removed 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Caldera Posted March 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2022 Just do what Cambodia did, it's hardly rocket science. No tests, no silly pre-registration on a poorly designed website, no quarantine for fully vaccinated travelers. People would be eager to come, it's the risk of testing positive and being sent off to Covid Prison that keeps them away at this point, not fear of the disease itself. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sambum Posted March 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 hours ago, LukKrueng said: So you prefer they wait till October? There are no interior not superior vaccines, only vaccines makers with lower or higher marketing power/budgets. Respiratory viruses cannot be eradicated by vaccines, but vaccines are much better money makers than medications, and that's the main reason the biggest pharma companies keep pushing for vaccines rather than develop specific COVID medications. "There are no interior not superior vaccines,............." I presume you mean "inferior", not "interior", but I though it was pretty common knowledge that the Chinese vaccines are pretty useless against more recent strains of Covid, but Pfizer and AstraZeneca are quite effective in reducing the symptoms. So the above statement appears to be contradictory to many expert medical opinions? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mikeymike100 Posted March 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2022 3 hours ago, cardinalblue said: Why continue to penalize 97%+ of incoming tourists who are negative and wasting unnecessary dollars? I wonder if it’s about fleecing a captive audience? There is no "wonder" about its fact!! The hospitals due to lack of foreigners coming in have lost a lot of potential money, they are trying hard to get it back by any means! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukKrueng Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, sambum said: "There are no interior not superior vaccines,............." I presume you mean "inferior", not "interior", but I though it was pretty common knowledge that the Chinese vaccines are pretty useless against more recent strains of Covid, but Pfizer and AstraZeneca are quite effective in reducing the symptoms. So the above statement appears to be contradictory to many expert medical opinions? Sorry, phone autocorrect. The Chinese vaccines is the normal, standard, well known vaccines type that has been used for ages and is still being used for all "normal" viruses / standard childhood vaccines. Edited March 24, 2022 by onthedarkside misinfo comment removed 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted March 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, LukKrueng said: Sorry, phone autocorrect. The Chinese vaccines is the normal, standard, well known vaccines type that has been used for ages and is still being used for all "normal" viruses / standard childhood vaccines. Not sure where you've done your research on Pfizer but you're very wrong on all counts, in addition its far more effective than the Chinese vaccines. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rupert the bear Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 it appears camb viet phils sing malaysia have out thought and out maoevered thailands govt by treating visitors with money with some respect and not constantly ripping them off,im still not conviced all scams will be gone,though i see the ins scam being replaced by the entry fee.im stuck here some time but must leave due to medical reasons,i hope to be gone within a week so i will return in july the 1sy hopefull or ill go to camb or phils,simple as that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybott Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 hours ago, DRD123 said: like telling everyone to wear a diaper in your speedos...enjoy your vacation! Leave my private life out of this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Fran Dan Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 8 hours ago, SheikYabodyline said: Scrapped by July 1st? Bang in the middle of swelter season in Thailand and of European and North American summer. What timing! Swelter is April May June Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Fran Dan Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said: Not sure where you've done your research on Pfizer but you're very wrong on all counts, in addition its far more effective than the Chinese vaccines. We have a lot of England China lovers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 hours ago, DRD123 said: No ones coming to a hot moist tropical country and wearing a mask when dozens of countries have no mandates anymore. Its like telling everyone to wear a diaper in your speedos...enjoy your vacation! Nonsense,,, just a load of cry babies... diapers would be a good idea too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AhFarangJa Posted March 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2022 5 hours ago, hotchilli said: So what exactly will the 300 baht per head cover.. we need that clarified. Please allow me to clarify................... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 hours ago, sambum said: ...ask Anutin, first he wears one, then he doesn't , then he does! Then he says it's not against the law not to wear one, but you can still be fined a hefty amount (up to 20,000 baht) for riding a motor bike without one? (As far as I know - that is the situation at the moment, but laws change so quickly here!) So why should a Westerner/tourist who is triple vaxed, and taken all the "necessary" tests for Covid be a danger because he/she is not wearing a mask? Less of a danger, for instance, than the hundreds of unvaccinated people ("non farangs"!) sneaking/coming across Thailand's borders from neighbouring countries. Diversion.... but mummy he isn't wearing one. Well he isn't a tourist or guest is he! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, sambum said: ...ask Anutin, first he wears one, then he doesn't , then he does! Then he says it's not against the law not to wear one, but you can still be fined a hefty amount (up to 20,000 baht) for riding a motor bike without one? (As far as I know - that is the situation at the moment, but laws change so quickly here!) So why should a Westerner/tourist who is triple vaxed, and taken all the "necessary" tests for Covid be a danger because he/she is not wearing a mask? Less of a danger, for instance, than the hundreds of unvaccinated people ("non farangs"!) sneaking/coming across Thailand's borders from neighbouring countries. 14 minutes ago, jacko45k said: Diversion.... but mummy he isn't wearing one. Well he isn't a tourist or guest is he! Diversion? Pot? Kettle? You were the one who brought up the subject of masks in the first place by making a sarcastic comment about farangs reacting in a childish way when asked to wear a mask!!! So what you are saying is that because Anutin isn't a tourist or guest he shouldn't wear a mask, but all tourists or guests should? And what about the 69 million or so Thais that are not tourists or guests? They shouldn't wear one either? And do me a favour - I have asked before but not got a satisfactory answer from anyone:- What is the logic behind having to wear a mask on a motor bike? I can't fathom it out! Edited March 24, 2022 by sambum 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, sambum said: And do me a favour - I have asked before but not got a satisfactory answer from anyone:- What is the logic behind having to wear a mask on a motor bike? I can't fathom it out! For when the police pull you over.... but to be honest, I mostly don't. Got stopped only this AM, messing about getting a mask on... Policeman only interested in seeing the licence. I am saying, stop pointing at others, it is diversion.... it really isn't a big deal wearing a mask. I just did so all morning, outdoors, as I got my booster...... (free thank you Thailand).... all had masks on there, little kids too! Edited March 24, 2022 by jacko45k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveyboy Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 6 hours ago, TooMuchTime said: This should not happen at all. I have said before to only open up 100% normal for all Asian countries and keep Thaipass in current state for all western countries. Thailand is digging their own grave if they open for everyone. yep those Dirty Farangs..!!!! what you drinking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveyboy Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 5 hours ago, ChrisY1 said: Planning to go out for 2 weeks in April...still need ThaiPass....and what a crock that is! It needs to be the first thing to get rid of....it serves little purpose at all! yep I need to get back to europe to sort out some stuff but afraid ill get stuck there. with the never ending change's at the drop of a hat Government hasn't got a clue ...,.......... ill wait a bit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, jacko45k said: For when the police pull you over.... but to be honest, I mostly don't. Got stopped only this AM, messing about getting a mask on... Policeman only interested in seeing the licence. I am saying, stop pointing at other, it is diversion.... it really isn't a big deal wearing a mask. I just did so all morning, outdoors, as I got my booster...... (free thank you Thailand).... all had masks on there, little kids too! "For when the police pull you over" ???? I give up! "I am saying, stop pointing at other, it is diversion." So you are allowed to make sarcastic remarks about farangs not wearing masks, but I'm not allowed to do the same about Thais, or their Minister of Health? To be honest, I wear a mask also, but not because I want to - I think it's ridiculous in an outside setting, but I do it because it's the law - oh, sorry, no it isn't! OK, I do it because it's EXPECTED, and I don't want to upset my hosts because I live here - albeit as an "alien" according to my visa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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