DrJoy Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 On 7/17/2023 at 10:44 PM, Melpomene said: We've had quotes between 30 & 35k for 1st class insurance on the XC40, so it's certainly worth shopping around Those do not cover the battery pack. You may want to read the fine print again. If you damage the battery in an unfortunate accident or it catches fire etc, the cheaper insurance does NOT cover it. New battery pack costs approx 1.33 Mill THB, which will have to be paid in cash. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) Nissan Leaf price March 2020 was 1,490,000 baht https://www.headlightmag.com/special-price-nissan-leaf-ev-100/ MG ZS EV price June 2019 was 1,190,000 baht https://www.headlightmag.com/offcial-photo-mg-zs-ev-thailand/ Not a huge difference in price Edited July 25, 2023 by vinny41 add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, vinny41 said: Nissan Leaf price March 2020 was 1,490,000 baht https://www.headlightmag.com/special-price-nissan-leaf-ev-100/ MG ZS EV price June 2019 was 1,190,000 baht https://www.headlightmag.com/offcial-photo-mg-zs-ev-thailand/ Not a huge difference in price 25% is not a huge difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: 25% is not a huge difference? Not really look at MG EP vs MG ES is 24.5% more expensive than the MG EP yes there are some improvements in the MG ES but not sure its worth the extra 24.5% And comparing MG ZS EV with Leaf the leaf is loaded with import taxes take the taxes off and the Leaf would be a similar price or lower to the MG ES Likewise Korean built EV's are going to struggle to compete on price with Thai/Chinese built EV Edited July 25, 2023 by vinny41 add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melpomene Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 2 hours ago, DrJoy said: Those do not cover the battery pack. You may want to read the fine print again. If you damage the battery in an unfortunate accident or it catches fire etc, the cheaper insurance does NOT cover it. New battery pack costs approx 1.33 Mill THB, which will have to be paid in cash. So I did review the small print, and to be fair it neither explicitly mentioned covering or excluding damage to the battery, so you could well be right. However, wouldn't this be an issue with all electric cars rather than just Volvo specifically ? Anyone else with experience of insuring an electric car care to comment on this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandersnatch Posted July 25, 2023 Author Share Posted July 25, 2023 5 hours ago, vinny41 said: And when was the last time that the Nissan leaf was sold for 2m baht On 27/7/2022 I saw this advert from Nissan on FB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bandersnatch said: On 27/7/2022 I saw this advert from Nissan on FB On Nissan site TH, back up to 1.490M Or, you can buy his & her MG EPs for less, which are better spec'd. Edited July 25, 2023 by KhunLA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 7 hours ago, vinny41 said: Nissan Leaf price March 2020 was 1,490,000 baht https://www.headlightmag.com/special-price-nissan-leaf-ev-100/ MG ZS EV price June 2019 was 1,190,000 baht https://www.headlightmag.com/offcial-photo-mg-zs-ev-thailand/ Not a huge difference in price Our MG ZS EV 2022 (Oct & now)... ฿949K, 50.3kWh battery (46.3kWh usable) MG EP ฿771k ... 50.3kWh battery Nissan Leaf ... 40kWh, usable 39kWh ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 2 hours ago, KhunLA said: Our MG ZS EV 2022 (Oct & now)... ฿949K, 50.3kWh battery (46.3kWh usable) MG EP ฿771k ... 50.3kWh battery Nissan Leaf ... 40kWh, usable 39kWh ???? Its strange that your comparing MG ZS EV 2022 model instead of the MG ZS EV 2019 44.5 kWh. battery or the new version of the Nissan Leaf 62 kWh. battery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, vinny41 said: Its strange that your comparing MG ZS EV 2022 model instead of the MG ZS EV 2019 44.5 kWh. battery or the new version of the Nissan Leaf 62 kWh. battery Because that's the one I have, and the 40kWh Leaf is the standard version priced starting at ฿1.99M in TH ???? https://en.nissan.co.th/vehicles/new-vehicles/leaf/specifications.html#grade-B12P-0|specs Edited July 25, 2023 by KhunLA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 14 minutes ago, KhunLA said: Because that's the one I have, and the 40kWh Leaf is the standard version priced starting at ฿1.99M in TH ???? https://en.nissan.co.th/vehicles/new-vehicles/leaf/specifications.html#grade-B12P-0|specs Nissan is well known for not updating their English web pages you can't order new Nissan leaf on their Thai web page According to this article there was a total of 40 Nissan leaf cars available for sale last July 2022 Final Call ! Nissan LEAF 100% electric car: 959,000 baht (imported CBU) | 311 km. distance (NEDC) https://autolifethailand.tv/final-call-nissan-leaf-ev-bev-959000/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, vinny41 said: Nissan is well known for not updating their English web pages you can't order new Nissan leaf on their Thai web page According to this article there was a total of 40 Nissan leaf cars available for sale last July 2022 Final Call ! Nissan LEAF 100% electric car: 959,000 baht (imported CBU) | 311 km. distance (NEDC) https://autolifethailand.tv/final-call-nissan-leaf-ev-bev-959000/ Your link is 1 yr old. If I want info about a product in TH, I use the manufacturers site in TH. Exact same info on the Thai version of TH Nissan site. Maybe you should take a peek at that for current info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, KhunLA said: Your link is 1 yr old. If I want info about a product in TH, I use the manufacturers site in TH. Exact same info on the Thai version of TH Nissan site. Maybe you should take a peek at that for current info. And when you click on the link it list all the cars available for sale and the Nissan Leaf is not listed and the link I posted yes its 1 year old but the clue was in the title Final Call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Japanese cars are more expensive than Chinese cars, shocking. Has anyone looked new Yugo EV? Great value... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bandersnatch Posted July 26, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) Teslas are expensive in Thailand, but most people probably don’t realise just how expensive. Teslas in Thailand do not qualify for any government incentives as they do not plan to manufacture here. What is the cheapest price you can buy a Tesla Model 3 RWD in the USA? Thailand $51,000 USA $ 13,620!! Edited July 26, 2023 by Bandersnatch 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBChiangRai Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 20 hours ago, vinny41 said: Not really look at MG EP vs MG ES is 24.5% more expensive than the MG EP yes there are some improvements in the MG ES but not sure its worth the extra 24.5% And comparing MG ZS EV with Leaf the leaf is loaded with import taxes take the taxes off and the Leaf would be a similar price or lower to the MG ES Likewise Korean built EV's are going to struggle to compete on price with Thai/Chinese built EV The MG4 has the same alloy wheels as the MG ES, they are really ugly. At least the MG4 comes with tacky wheel covers which look a little better than the alloys underneath (I never thought I would ever think that). I'm not in favour of after market alloy wheels, but I'd make an exception with the MG ES. I prefer the front grille on the EP over the ES, probably because I am old. Likewise I prefer a polished walnut dashboard and door cappings, all gone the way of progress. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Cars are cheaper in the US? Say it ain't so! How much are the MGs in the US? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: How much are the MGs in the US? Didn't realize they were even available in the USA. Photo below is screenshot from Gsearch, site needs to register, I didn't. This site gives some prices of, accurate (?): https://www.ccarprice.com/us/mg-car-prices-in-USA-141 Edited July 26, 2023 by KhunLA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macahoom Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: How much are the MGs in the US? Found this online: "MG, in just two years, has passed Ford Motor Co. and Hyundai in Mexico and now is the eighth-best selling brand there, so it is already in North America. Vehicles sold in that market are not built to meet U.S. federal safety and emissions regulations, so for SAIC, it is not a simple matter of just appointing dealers in the US and shipping cars." Edited July 26, 2023 by macahoom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, KhunLA said: Didn't realize they were even available in the USA. Photo below is screenshot from Gsearch, site needs to register, I didn't. This site gives some prices of, accurate (?): https://www.ccarprice.com/us/mg-car-prices-in-USA-141 MG or SAIC cars not sold in USA as to pricing website it lists cars for sale in Thailand that will never be imported and ignores any chinese brands that are currently on sale in Thailand not everything posted on the internet is correct and MG Cars USA not found SAIC Cars USA not found reviews of MG cars tested in the USA not found Edited July 26, 2023 by vinny41 add 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andrew Dwyer Posted July 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) Electric pickup anyone ? https://carnewschina.com/2023/07/26/radar-rd6-electric-pickup-from-geely-is-heading-overseas-possibly-to-thailand/ Edited July 26, 2023 by Andrew Dwyer 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Dwyer Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) Forest ( or is it Emerald ? ) Green or Racing Green. Which one will you choose. Edited July 28, 2023 by Andrew Dwyer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bandersnatch Posted July 29, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2023 Unsure about EVs why not rent one for a few days to see how you get on with it. Download the EVMe app and register - you don’t need to upload proof of ID until you are ready to rent. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bandersnatch Posted July 31, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2023 Do EVs actually achieve their claimed range? The first thing to consider is by what standard is the Range measured. NEDC = New European Driving Cycle (used in Thailand) It is based on a theoretical driving profile. It has two parts -the first simulates city traffic with many stop/start phases, and the second corresponds to an extra-urban journey at a maximum speed of almost 75 mph WLTP = Worldwide Harmonized Light Vehicles Test Procedures. It is based on a global statistical survey of real driving profiles NEDC will give a range estimate in ideal conditions WLTP will give a lower range estimate that will more likely be achievable. In the USA range estimates are provided by Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) China Light-Duty Vehicle Test Cycle (CLTC) is used in China The Tesla Model Y RWD uses a LFP battery with a useable capacity of 56.8kWh When Bjørn Nyland tested the Tesla Model Y RWD in Thailand he got a range of 546km which is more range than is claimed by WLTP or NEDC. Cold weather will reduce battery range, not a problem that we have in Thailand. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bandersnatch Posted July 31, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) BYD Seal looks fantastic in pearlescent white much nicer than the Tesla Pearl White. I didn’t like the blue interior on the blue car when I sat in it at the BKK motor show, the darker interior looks much better. Nice to see the sun shield fitted, why doesn’t Tesla include one? 4.8m long (slightly longer than the Tesla model 3) 1.875m wide (slightly wider than the Tesla model 3) 1.46m tall (slightly taller than the Tesla model 3) 2.92m WB (slightly longer than the Tesla model 3) Coming to Europe in October RWD called “Design” 230kW motor, 5.9 secs, 520km range AWD called “Excellence” 390kW across 2 motors, 3.8 secs, 570km range LFP Blade Battery 82.5kWh for both models charging 150kW DC, 11kw AC Heat Pump, V2L Edited July 31, 2023 by Bandersnatch 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Dwyer Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 33 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said: BYD Seal looks fantastic in pearlescent white much nicer than the Tesla Pearl White. I didn’t like the blue interior on the blue car when I sat in it at the BKK motor show, the darker interior looks much better. Nice to see the sun shield fitted, why doesn’t Tesla include one? 4.8m long (slightly longer than the Tesla model 3) 1.875m wide (slightly wider than the Tesla model 3) 1.46m tall (slightly taller than the Tesla model 3) 2.92m WB (slightly longer than the Tesla model 3) Coming to Europe in October RWD called “Design” 230kW motor, 5.9 secs, 520km range AWD called “Excellence” 390kW across 2 motors, 3.8 secs, 570km range LFP Blade Battery 82.5kWh for both models charging 150kW DC, 11kw AC Heat Pump, V2L You beat me too it ! I like Derek’s videos, he crams in as much info as poss in a short space of time, sometimes has a little oops ! , hatchback ?? , although he did correct it in text on the video. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BKKBike09 Posted July 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2023 I see BYD have a fancy web site in English (it may have been up for ages, but I only just noticed it). It's quite impressive - not just knocked up in an afternoon 'because we need to have a web site'. https://www.byd.com/en-th/car/atto3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bandersnatch Posted August 1, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2023 19 hours ago, Bandersnatch said: BYD Seal looks fantastic in pearlescent white much nicer than the Tesla Pearl White. I didn’t like the blue interior on the blue car when I sat in it at the BKK motor show, the darker interior looks much better. Nice to see the sun shield fitted, why doesn’t Tesla include one? 4.8m long (slightly longer than the Tesla model 3) 1.875m wide (slightly wider than the Tesla model 3) 1.46m tall (slightly taller than the Tesla model 3) 2.92m WB (slightly longer than the Tesla model 3) Coming to Europe in October RWD called “Design” 230kW motor, 5.9 secs, 520km range AWD called “Excellence” 390kW across 2 motors, 3.8 secs, 570km range LFP Blade Battery 82.5kWh for both models charging 150kW DC, 11kw AC Heat Pump, V2L As stated in the video the BYD Seal will come in only 2 different versions in Europe but the rest of the world will get three. Here is a screen shot from a video taken in Australia showing a a smaller battery version (gross capacity) - probably the same BYD Blade battery used in the Tesla RWD cars 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBChiangRai Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 I have some concerns over the marketing of the Atto 3. I think there are differences not indicated in their spec sheet. Unusually, there were 3 EV's following each other in central Chiang Rai last week. first 2 cars were Standard & Extended range Atto 3's, and lastly me. The horizontal lightbar on the standard range didn't appear to be lit, it could be because he didn't have his headlights on, I couldn't see the front. The other day I saw a standard range and the horizontal lightbar on the front didn't appear to be illuminated. I am also concerned that the performance figures for both cars are identical and yet according to the spec sheet they have the same power motor but different weights, this doesn't add up. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motdaeng Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) i took a closer look at the BYD Seal at the motor show (march 2023). i really like its exterior, but i find the interior design to be overloaded ... it's a pity that the Seal is still not available in thailand and we do not have any information about the pricing yet ... Edited August 1, 2023 by motdaeng text was missing ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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