Guys Getting Too Old vs Ladies Too Old to Work Bar

[Doctor Tom]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Yes, I know. And those drugs can suppress blood pressure readings to dangerously low levels, how does a systole/diastole of 80/40 sound?

Quite acceptable f you are getting a great <deleted> out of it. 

[Lacessit]

2 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

The attraction is subconscious. The biological imperative rules all. The sole purpose of life is more life, or propagating one's gene pool.

 

A man who ages slowly and who maintains a youthful appearance evidences good genes. He is a good mating partner, because a woman who draws his seed is more likely to produce a strong offspring. She does not know why she is attracted; she just is. Consciously she might choose a younger mating partner, but a guy who ages slowly screams---in a Darwinian sense---that he is made of superior genes, and that attracts her mating instincts.

 

There is clinical evidence backing this up. Of course, while a man can do everything possible to maintain his shape and youth, the real secret to an older man's sexual attractiveness is this: choose your parents well. Obviously that is dumb luck, winning the Birth Lottery, but almost everything in life is a function of one's success or lack thereof in the Birth Lottery.....intelligence, physical attractiveness, height, body shape, athletic ability, etc.

The four factors that attract women are physical attractiveness, intelligence, power and money, although it usually takes a woman of some intelligence herself to respond to that attribute.

Henry Kissinger once remarked power is the ultimate aphrodisiac; Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Clinton and Trump are all proof he was right. French Presidents did OK too.

 

[Lacessit]

11 minutes ago, Doctor Tom said:

Quite acceptable f you are getting a great <deleted> out of it. 

One of my friends in my age range once said he would rather have a good s##t. Looking at his wife, easy to understand why.

[LALes]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

It is all about supply and demand. As long as some older guys are OK with older women, the old ladies will find work. Some guys are even ok with old, fat and ugly. It takes all kinds. 

 

I used to travel here decades ago. Some of the bar girls were stunning. Super model types. They had fewer options. The young stunners today have alot of options. Some of them get as much as 60,000 baht with high end escort services. Some of them make a fortune online. Things have changed alot. The selection today is a pale shadow of what it used to be. It is what it is. Everything changes and evolves.

A lot of the young hotties leave the country for big bucks in Japan, Korea, Dubai, etc.  You are right.  It ain't the same scene it was 30 years ago.

[Kenny202]

2 hours ago, Doctor Tom said:

The ladies' are not just getting older, they are pilling on the kilos, getting wider and trying to wear the same tight shorts they did 15 years ago. If the old blokes can stomach them, good on them, but not for me. 

Better get used to it. Looks like more and more younger hotter girls going for online sponsors on platforms like Onlyfans etc. Some of them very ordinary too (for Thailand's standards) and many have 100's of followers per month at $10-30 US $$ per subscription. Most of these girls even older or overweight scrub up a million dollars with a bit of make up and a g string / lingerie. Not bad for posting a few selfies every day 

[rott]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Yes, I know. And those drugs can suppress blood pressure readings to dangerously low levels, how does a systole/diastole of 80/40 sound?

Never knew that.

But presumably you need to take a lot for a long time to have that effect.

Does blood pressure medication have the same other effect as those drugs. ????

[Mavideol]

12 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

An observation.

 

And a questIon: how do you know when you are too old?

never too old, age is just a number and as long as the little one between the legs still work all is good  555

[Lacessit]

32 minutes ago, rott said:

Never knew that.

But presumably you need to take a lot for a long time to have that effect.

Does blood pressure medication have the same other effect as those drugs. ????

I am on blood pressure medication. I did not know it either, until I started checking my BP.

I usually only take Viagra once or twice a month. It was originally developed as a BP medication.

Even if I skip taking my regular BP medication the day before and that day I take Viagra, the effect is still there.

What disturbs me is the fact Viagra is supposed to eliminated by the body in about 4 hours in terms of sexual stimulation, but the BP effect lasts for 24 hours.

I am experimenting with alternatives, as I like my humpy-rumpy. Not successful thus far.

[BusyB]

OP put the scare quotes on the wrong word.

 

It should have read permanent "relationship".

[Kenny202]

10 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I am on blood pressure medication. I did not know it either, until I started checking my BP.

I usually only take Viagra once or twice a month. It was originally developed as a BP medication.

Even if I skip taking my regular BP medication the day before and that day I take Viagra, the effect is still there.

What disturbs me is the fact Viagra is supposed to eliminated by the body in about 4 hours in terms of sexual stimulation, but the BP effect lasts for 24 hours.

I am experimenting with alternatives, as I like my humpy-rumpy. Not successful thus far.

Try a herbal product called Shom poo Shern. The Thais use it and a lot cheaper than Viagra and no spaced out side effects. Works a lot more effectively than Viagra too. The little bloke will be up before you in the morning and seems to last about 2 days. You will have a bone a dog couldn't chew ???? Available at a lot of bigger pharmacies and online Lazada

[Doctor Tom]

1 hour ago, rott said:

Never knew that.

But presumably you need to take a lot for a long time to have that effect.

Does blood pressure medication have the same other effect as those drugs. ????

Unfortunately not, but Viagra was developed as a blood pressure/Angina medication, so that's alright then. I take it just for control of my BP, its got absolutely nothing at all to do with maintaining a stiffy all day. ????????????

Edited May 24, 2022 by Doctor Tom

[Doctor Tom]

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

The four factors that attract women are physical attractiveness, intelligence, power and money,

But not in that order.  Money comes way ahead in first place, especially here. I may add that having the full set is a killer with the ladies, unfortunately,  I can only attest to maybe  having one of those attributes. 

Edited May 24, 2022 by Doctor Tom

[Doctor Tom]

2 hours ago, Mavideol said:

never too old, age is just a number and as long as the little one between the legs still work all is good  555

tell that to my knees and wonky hips. 

[Tropposurfer]

One of the great pluses and joys of a patriarchal society … I know I know that’s so totally tasteless and politically incorrect but it’s honest 

[BritManToo]

4 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Yes, I know. And those drugs can suppress blood pressure readings to dangerously low levels, how does a systole/diastole of 80/40 sound?

I was 80/60 for several years.

No problems at all, apart from the hospital asking me to run over to the BP machine and do it again.

[BritManToo]

2 hours ago, rott said:

Never knew that.

But presumably you need to take a lot for a long time to have that effect.

Does blood pressure medication have the same other effect as those drugs. ????

Yes it does, but not quite as fast ....... 2hr wait rather than 30 minutes.

(Doxazosin 2mg, 10 tabs for 35bht from your local pharmacy)

[Lacessit]

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

I was 80/60 for several years.

No problems at all, apart from the hospital asking me to run over to the BP machine and do it again.

60 is borderline for a diastole, IIRC 40 means the brain is not getting enough oxygenated blood, resulting in light-headedness and fainting.

My BP is elevated when I go near any doctor, white coat syndrome.

[Lacessit]

49 minutes ago, Doctor Tom said:

tell that to my knees and wonky hips. 

There are alternatives to the missionary position, you know.

[Kenny202]

47 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Yes it does, but not quite as fast ....... 2hr wait rather than 30 minutes.

(Doxazosin 2mg, 10 tabs for 35bht from your local pharmacy)

These work like Viagra? I know now why I always feel light headed when I took it.

 

They actually lower your blood pressure yet increase your....ummm....woodiness?

I just googled it and sounds right

You take 2 pills or one?

If it is as good as the Lazada tea you recommended me I'm in ????

 

How does that work? I always thought maybe Viagra increased your BP

Edited May 24, 2022 by Kenny202

[Danderman123]

It's almost painful to see some older men in bars, doing grandfather jokes with the ladies, some with glassy eyes indicating serious health problems, even though they may be close to my age. Of course, even if you are old, you still think you are young, so i might look as ancient as those guys. 

 

The killer for me is when the old guys get their hands on the music system in the bar and play old music from the 60's. The energy level in the bar visibly drops. Here's a hint for oldtimers: don't play old English songs in the bar. 

 

I will admit to playing DJ in the bar, but i play Becky G, Maluma, Bad Bunny, etc. at the request of the ladies. If you don't know who they are, you are too old. 

[Danderman123]

8 hours ago, Lacessit said:

The four factors that attract women are physical attractiveness, intelligence, power and money, although it usually takes a woman of some intelligence herself to respond to that attribute.

 

 

Or being a young Thai man. 

[Kenny202]

25 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

It's almost painful to see some older men in bars, doing grandfather jokes with the ladies, some with glassy eyes indicating serious health problems, even though they may be close to my age. Of course, even if you are old, you still think you are young, so i might look as ancient as those guys.  

I remember the first time I went to Pattaya hand in hand with my new teerac, and seeing all of the old lechers walking around with young girls. Only when I caught sight of myself in a mirror I realized I was no different to them lol

[Golden Triangle]

7 hours ago, Doctor Tom said:

tell that to my knees and wonky hips. 

Me & you both.

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

It's almost painful to see some older men in bars, doing grandfather jokes with the ladies, 

 

 

And they both find it extremely funny when she tries to teach him some words in Thai and he cannot pronounce the words properly and he keeps saying the words wrong 

[Mac Mickmanus]

11 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

It is all about supply and demand. As long as some older guys are OK with older women, the old ladies will find work. Some guys are even ok with old, fat and ugly. It takes all kinds. 

 

I used to travel here decades ago. Some of the bar girls were stunning. Super model types. They had fewer options. The young stunners today have alot of options. Some of them get as much as 60,000 baht with high end escort services. Some of them make a fortune online. Things have changed alot. The selection today is a pale shadow of what it used to be. It is what it is. Everything changes and evolves.

Thailand is now also a more prosperous Country and thus there are more opportunities and girls can get other jobs rather than sex work . 

   These days , there are far more opportunities , rather than either on your back spreading your legs or in a field bent over planting things for Thais

[Sticky Rice Balls]

16 hours ago, olfu said:

Japan but both out of my price range.

agreed..would be my pic too

[Danderman123]

7 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Thailand is now also a more prosperous Country and thus there are more opportunities and girls can get other jobs rather than sex work . 

   These days , there are far more opportunities , rather than either on your back spreading your legs or in a field bent over planting things for Thais

I will agree that there are more factory jobs than 20 years ago, but only for ladies under 40.

[BritManToo]

8 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Thailand is now also a more prosperous Country and thus there are more opportunities and girls can get other jobs rather than sex work . 

   These days , there are far more opportunities , rather than either on your back spreading your legs or in a field bent over planting things for Thais

Those other jobs all involve long hours and low pay.

Sex work is easier.

 

My daughter is a very hard worker, after being in education until age 22 (costing $$$$s), now manages to earn 20kbht/month for a 60hr week.

 

My former gf was earning 40kbht/weekend at the Hilton on her back (single customer).

(and claimed 50% of customers couldn't actually do it)

Edited May 25, 2022 by BritManToo

[Excel]

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

Those other jobs all involve long hours and low pay.

Sex work is easier.

And in some cases perhaps more enjoyable too I suspect.

[Walker88]

27 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Those other jobs all involve long hours and low pay.

Sex work is easier.

 

My daughter is a very hard worker, after being in education until age 22 (costing $$$$s), now manages to earn 20kbht/month for a 60hr week.

 

My former gf was earning 40kbht/weekend at the Hilton on her back (single customer).

(and claimed 50% of customers couldn't actually do it)

Not that I have ever been in one of those agogo things.....but I have met women who work in them, or used to work in them, and continue to maintain contact with a few.

 

The ones who sought out factory work---in keeping with their skill level gained from their rural education---make between 10,000 and 14,000 baht per month, the latter if they get overtime. They found that preferable to the 200 baht per day they can get working the fields back in Isaan. One took a job in a call center, dealing with customers. She makes 9000 baht per month.

 

Previously these women made a minimum of 30K a month and most claim to have made 100K per month in the agogo. One woman claims she made 200K plus a month in a combo of salary, commissions for drinks, and regularly 'stepping out' with customers. In the very very few times I previously visited her agogo, seeing her but never 'stepping out' with her, I would see her walk off multiple times per night, back in her street clothes, and leaving with a customer, so I tend toward believing her tale of income. She does own a pretty nice house and a farm in her province, as well as a condo in Bangkok.

 

As for the typical older codger with his young teeracs, I suspect in another ten or so years it won't make a lick of difference, as he will be pushing daisies. His twilight years, however, will likely have been pretty fun, and since he was unlikely to have been out to impress anyone or gain 'face', I don't see much of what others think will have bothered him. If such a man need feel good about himself---though with his dallying he probably feels good with himself---he can think of all the mouths he is feeding and sick buffaloes he is helping bring back to health in Isaan.

 

It was Somerset Maugham who said something to the effect of, "I've met many a man who lived the straight and narrow, who felt regret at the end he hadn't given in to his more base desires, but never met any man who followed every temptation and had even a single regret at the end."

 

When I become the proverbial old codger, I wonder what path I will take?