Yet more crocodile evidence! Now footprints appear at well known temple

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Yet more evidence has emerged of the growing number of crocodiles in Chachoensao province east of the Thai capital Bangkok.

 

In a latest twist lots of croc footprints have been found in muddy areas at Wat Saman Rattanaram on the Bang Pakong River.

 

This is just opposite where a 64 year old woman was attacked while hunting for prawns.

 

Picture: 77kaoded

 

Earlier in the week a kamnan warned that there was the potential for thousand of crocodiles to be in the area.

 

He said the price had dropped and farm owners were not bothering to try and catch animals that got out. 

 

Picture: 77kaoded

 

Phu Yai Ban Chaiwat Ritthaporn, 56, of Sao Changoke sub-district of Bangkhla said that he had received reports of a croc biting another person and sightings of crocs sunning themselves with their mouths gaping. 

 

77kaoded had pictures and a video of the latest situation in the area that the kamnan earlier called concerning. 

 

 

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[Excel]

Just when you wanted a guy called Dundee ????

[huangnon]

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Earlier in the week a kamnan warned that there was the potential for thousand of crocodiles to be in the area.

 

He said the price had dropped and farm owners were not bothering to try and catch animals that got out. 

Nature always finds a way. ????

 

It's great that an indigenous species is making a comeback.

[Excel]

8 minutes ago, huangnon said:

Nature always finds a way. ????

 

It's great that an indigenous species is making a comeback.

Let's get Jimmy Nail here PDQ

[Thunglom]

On 6/10/2022 at 3:56 AM, huangnon said:

Nature always finds a way. ????

 

It's great that an indigenous species is making a comeback.

Are we sur it's an indigenous and not an escaped group that has started breeding?

[huangnon]

6 hours ago, Thunglom said:

Are we sur it's an indigenous and not an escaped group that has started breeding?

Hmm.. Could well be.

[KhunLA]

Anyone else sensing a solution to the soi dog problem locally.

 

I think aggressive dogs roaming the streets just took a back seat ????

[jak2002003]

Good news.  I don't see the problems.  They belong here in the wild.  They are part of the ecosystem here and should be reintroduced anyway. 

 

I don't believe the woman was 'attacked' by a crocodile anyway.....no details or photos of that in the report.  Siamese crocodiles do not attack humans or large animals...they feed on fish, aquatic birds and smaller prey.  Actually there is no record of one ever having attacked a human.

 

The only time one night bite a human would be in self defense if it was getting captured or harassed.  

 

 

[Thunglom]

6 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

Good news.  I don't see the problems.  They belong here in the wild.  They are part of the ecosystem here and should be reintroduced anyway. 

 

I don't believe the woman was 'attacked' by a crocodile anyway.....no details or photos of that in the report.  Siamese crocodiles do not attack humans or large animals...they feed on fish, aquatic birds and smaller prey.  Actually there is no record of one ever having attacked a human.

 

The only time one night bite a human would be in self defense if it was getting captured or harassed.  

 

 

Be careful what you wish for!

 

There are less than 1,000 mature adults left in the wild – the SPECIES is critically endangered and is at  great risk of hybridisation.

This is a serious problem  for many apex predators in this region.

 

Unfortunately there are many crocodile farms that are populated by other species or hybrids and there are often escapes. The problem with this is it will hasten the extinction of the species through hybridisation.

 

This animal needs to be captured and DNA tested to make sure it is a genuine Siamese croc.

[jak2002003]

5 minutes ago, Thunglom said:

Be careful what you wish for!

 

There are less than 1,000 mature adults left in the wild – the SPECIES is critically endangered and is at  great risk of hybridisation.

This is a serious problem  for many apex predators in this region.

 

Unfortunately there are many crocodile farms that are populated by other species or hybrids and there are often escapes. The problem with this is it will hasten the extinction of the species through hybridisation.

 

This animal needs to be captured and DNA tested to male sure it is a genuine Siamese croc.

You are correct.  But most of the crocodiles these farms are indeed Siamese crocodiles. 

 

Some are hybrids with saltwater crocks.  But saltwater crocks are also native to Thailand....so they must have interbred occasionally in nature. 

 

I would rather have hybrid ones than none at all.  But. Yeah. I guess you are right. Sadly there is no chance for the successful reintroduction of the Siamese crocodiles here. People are just too scared of them.

..and a lot of the natural ecosystems are destroyed and not suitable.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Thunglom]

2 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

most of the crocodiles these farms are indeed Siamese crocodiles. 

Hybrids are a huge problem as breeders like them for the skin!

Introducing any animals back into the wild is fraught with problems but crocs are an integral part of their ecosystem. A health croc population signifies a healthy environment.

 

slates and Siamese crocs have different natural histories and prey - so hybrids in the wrong place can cause more destruction than good.

 

Compered to some animals Siamese crocs are easier to reintroduce, but this isn't necessarily the way to do it. What is needed is for the current populations to be allowed to increase naturally.

There is no really serious problem with human interactions, NO! - Most are hybrids!

Introducing any animals back into the wild is fraught with problems but crocs are an integral part of their ecosystem. A health croc population signifies a healthy environment.

 

slates and Siamese crocs have different natural histories and prey - so hybrids in the wrong place can cause more destruction than good.

 

Compared to some animals Siamese crocs are easier to reintroduce, but this isn't necessarily the way to do it. What is needed is for the current populations to be allowed to increase naturally.

here is no really serious problem with human interactions, they’re generally unaggressive towards humans - until the 1950s Siamese crocs were quite common. Loss of habitat and encroachment were not the main causes of their slide onto the endangered list, it was the price of alligator skins - they were hunted out of existence .... of course poaching is still a problem.

 

The Siamese croc is a relatively small animal and the skins were very sought after - they are illegal in most countries now ....The length of this crocodile can reach up to 13 feet, while the average Siamese croc is more likely to be around 7-8 feet. The idea behind hybrids is to get larger animals with a better skin.

 - until the 1950s Siamese crocs were quite common. Loss of habitat and encroachment were not the main causes of their slide onto the endangered list, it was the price of alligator skins - they were hunted out of existence .... of course poaching is still a problem.

The Siamese croc is a relatively small animal and the skins were very sought after - they are illegal in most countries now ....The length of this crocodile can reach up to 13 feet, while the average Siamese croc is more likely to be around 7-8 feet. The idea behind hybrids is to get larger animals with a better skin. The problem is one of identification. There are meant to be many “pure” Siamese in farms but this is impossible to establish as accurate.