digital Posted June 16, 2022 Posted June 16, 2022 Been trying all day today to login to UK Government Gateway tax account , but also not working for other services e.g. pension forecast, NI contributions, file a return etc. I've used it for years, I can sign in but the 6 digit access code that is normally sent to your registered phone by SMS message does not arrive (Yes my Thai number/phone is the one registered, it confirms last few digits before sending). I've called and contacted them about it but no real help, they did say that they have changed the communications partner. They said my provider (True) may be blocking the number but they can't tell me what number its sent from now (its 60551 on a UK phone) The last time I used it was Feb I still have the old message in my phone. If anyone else here is registered for this can you try and log in for me. see if you get the access code? Thanks.
Polar Bear Posted June 16, 2022 Posted June 16, 2022 I just logged in and got the code without a problem, but it's a UK number (although I am in Thailand). It came from 60551. It does specifically say on the login screen that they will send the text to a UK number.
scubascuba3 Posted June 16, 2022 Posted June 16, 2022 Someone else reported the same problem a week plus ago, I think he was using AIS
Slugs11 Posted June 16, 2022 Posted June 16, 2022 Just logged into my CGT gov account, no problem in receiving my 6 digit code on my Thai AIS mobile number. 1
Slugs11 Posted June 16, 2022 Posted June 16, 2022 Just tried my gateway tax account and again no problem in receiving the 6 digit code number. Maybe it’s your mobile provider which is blocking the code ? Certainly with AIS, no problem 1
Andycoops Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 Logged in to govt gateway no problem, code sent to my AIS mobile here. 1
digital Posted June 17, 2022 Author Posted June 17, 2022 Thanks just tried again today, still not working with True. Can you tell me what number the message came from, without that I can't really report it to True - even having the number not sure who I can report it to to get them to understand
doctormann Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 No problem here - access code sent to my AIS number. 1
digital Posted June 17, 2022 Author Posted June 17, 2022 16 minutes ago, doctormann said: No problem here - access code sent to my AIS number. Which number did it come from please?
erymax Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 I have a true mobile number and got the 6 digit code for login. Never had any problems. 1
digital Posted June 17, 2022 Author Posted June 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, erymax said: I have a true mobile number and got the 6 digit code for login. Never had any problems. Thanks, has was that today?
Jen65 Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 I recently tried to use the Government Gateway to advise change of address ( for pension purposes which one can do ) but found it had been cancelled . No reason given - perhaps if one does not use it for a period of time or after a certain period of absence from UK your access gets cancelled ?? Back to snail mail system now ! 1
doctormann Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 41 minutes ago, digital said: Which number did it come from please? No idea. SMS source just says NXSMS. 1
MartinL Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 I've had this problem for over a week - phone service is AIS. I enter Gateway ID and password, get a message saying OTP has been sent - the partial phone number is correct - but it never arrives. On my phone, origin of OTP messages was a Thai phone number "+66 89 304 0043". I phoned HMRC who said they'd had many similar complaints but everything was correct at their end. E-mailed AIS who were very good in their response. They said SMS messages had arrived from senders "BIG3G" and "SSB_PROD" at about the times I requested OTP. Those senders seem to bear no relation to Government Gateway or HMRC. Ultimately, though, AIS couldn't solve the problem. Late yesterday, I tried to get OTP again - same problem. Just before writing this, I tried yet again, expecting the same problem again. BUT THE OTP ARRIVED INSTANTLY!! This time the origin of the OTP was "NXSMS" rather than the Thai number. Looks like it was an HMRC problem all along. I suspect the OTP system was undergoing a change but the call centre operators weren't aware of it. I wonder how much stick they got from callers because the OTP department didn't keep them informed. 1
sammieuk1 Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 Try Restart your phone do you have credit I had a delay a couple of weeks ago then 15 texts arrived at once ???? 1
bluemoonpattaya Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 Check your message memory on your mobile phone, if it is full you will not receive any new messages until you delete a few old messages. 1
bluemoonpattaya Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 There has been changes to the Government system, as i used post office app to verify my ID so i could access the Gov website. But now i have to sign in direct to the Gov website, as post office no longer offer this service. so this would have needed some changes to their system. 1
cauldlad Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 Just accessed Gov. system this morning, no problem. I use a DTAC sim and the code was sent immediately. 1 1
digital Posted June 17, 2022 Author Posted June 17, 2022 I have put my True sim into another phone and tried again, I didn't think it would work but the code came in a few seconds! Its an android phone, there is no spam filter or anything on it that I know of, have had the messages before no problem, the memory is not full. Don't know if it was fluke and will now work in my usual phone, will try after I have done what I need to online. Thanks for all the help
ChrisKC Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 I have a suggestion to make: On several occasions I have sought to have messages sent to my phone when changing passwords etc, including my Bank for which I have an online Account, Messages were stated by the Sender to have been received by me but I couldn't find them. I discovered sometime later, that I HAD received them but in a messaging app already installed when I bought the phone ("hidden" in a folder on the Menu screen). Even my online bank with it's own messaging system didn't receive my messages but instead went to an existing app I rarely looked at! So, try looking at another possible messaging app on your phone or tablet to check. 1
mikeymike100 Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 Wasn't working a few days ago on AIS, just tried again and now it is! 1
MartinL Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, digital said: I have put my True sim into another phone and tried again, I didn't think it would work but the code came in a few seconds! I also tried changing SIM to my wife's phone. My phone is Apple, my wife's phone is Samsung. Still didn't receive OTP. 1
digital Posted June 17, 2022 Author Posted June 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, MartinL said: I also tried changing SIM to my wife's phone. My phone is Apple, my wife's phone is Samsung. Still didn't receive OTP. I will put the sim back in the original phone after I am done, and see if it now works. Maybe it has been fixed?
Mutt Daeng Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 I know this is of no use to the OP at the moment, but I use the HMRC app to provide access codes rather than get them sent by SMS, thereby eliminating this issue. Once you can get logged in via the gateway, it may be worth changing the way you receive the access code. Just a thought... Fortunately, my DTAC sim can receive the access code via SMS, which I use as a backup.
MartinL Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 Just now, Mutt Daeng said: ... I use the HMRC app to provide access codes rather than get them sent by SMS ... I used the app. for a while and liked it but they updated it to only use iOS 13 and above. I'm not that modern so it was back to SMSs. 1
Mutt Daeng Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 Just now, MartinL said: I used the app. for a while and liked it but they updated it to only use iOS 13 and above. I'm not that modern so it was back to SMSs. Fair enough. I have an android phone, so not a problem for me.
jesimps Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 I had the same problem earlier this week, after years of trouble-free logging in I wasted two days attempting to receive the access code. In the end, I clicked the button to contact them and it gave me the option to change the method of receiving the code. One of the choices was the google authenticator app which I chose, and on using, got straight into the site. The Google 2-factor app is a good tool to have on your phone if you haven't already got it, lots of sites are asking for it these days, especially if you invest in shares, crypto etc. It only takes a couple of minutes to download from the Play Store and is very simple to use. By the way, my phone provider is AIS. 1
Mutt Daeng Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, jesimps said: I had the same problem earlier this week, after years of trouble-free logging in I wasted two days attempting to receive the access code. In the end, I clicked the button to contact them and it gave me the option to change the method of receiving the code. One of the choices was the google authenticator app which I chose, and on using, got straight into the site. The Google 2-factor app is a good tool to have on your phone if you haven't already got it, lots of sites are asking for it these days, especially if you invest in shares, crypto etc. It only takes a couple of minutes to download from the Play Store and is very simple to use. By the way, my phone provider is AIS. Thanks for that info @jesimps. I didn't realise you could use different authenticator apps to access the GG.
chilly07 Posted June 17, 2022 Posted June 17, 2022 For on line tax returns from outside the UK you need to use an accounts package listed on the Gov Tax website. I use abcsa.co.uk accessed via my pc working of a True H router. It's great because you can upload all the data from your last return saving a lot of time
digital Posted June 18, 2022 Author Posted June 18, 2022 On 6/17/2022 at 9:22 AM, digital said: I have put my True sim into another phone and tried again, I didn't think it would work but the code came in a few seconds! Don't know if it was fluke and will now work in my usual phone, will try after I have done what I need to online. Not been able to check if it still works again because I checked the remember me for 7 days box so it doesn't ask for the access code, will try it again after the 7 days.
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