Its too expensive I may leave

[Danderman123]

So says my bargirlfriend, who recruits ladies for bars and gogos. 
 

Typically, bargirls are now operating under 10 day contracts. But, it’s unusual for a lady to work the 10 days. The reason is, when their bar shuts down, the ladies head for the boy bars that don’t close until 6 am. Which means the ladies are still hungover when their bar opens. So they barfine themselves and stay in the room. The only deterrent is that they have to pay cash to barfine themselves. If they work for an agency, their barfine is deducted at the end of their 10 day contract, so they never see the expense, it’s not tangible to them.

 

Or, they have a new boyfriend and want to play rather than work. However, that’s only when the boyfriend is new. Once he has his hooks in her, he will drive the lady to work, borrow some cash from her, and go play while she works.

 

If you buy a drink for a lady in a bar, she will tell you the story about her husband running off when she has a kid or two, requiring her to work bar to send money home. The reality is that the ladies send very little home, but blow most of their earnings on boys, clothes, tattoos, etc. Note when I write “boys” that includes tomboys.

 

As July 1 rolls around, new bars and gogos are opening, so there is tremendous demand for ladies and salaries are rising. A lady could earn 30,000+ baht in a month, not counting drink commissions or earnings from customers. This is the best time to be a boyfriend for a bargirl, especially a gogo “model”.

 

 

 

[VocalNeal]

I am happy to know things are getting back to normal?

[PremiumLane]

Translation: why can't I exploit people like the old days! 

[bolt]

A bar girl has an earning potential of 20-30K per month, whereas working in a Gym or hotel reception is 10-12k

 

Incredibly difficult decision to make for a young girl, and to be honest working in a bar looks like fun most days.

[scubascuba3]

The other twist is boyfriends get them hooked on yaba so they have to work

[herfiehandbag]

To paraphrase (very loosely) Winston Churchill.

"Bargirls are lazy, their customers are ugly!

Tomorrow the Bargirl may choose to work very hard for a week, but the customers will still be ugly"!

[CharlieH]

Post removed as per forum rules.. DO NOT discuss specifics/pricing etc.

[Lacessit]

I have not been in the bar scene for many years. By the time one adds up the cost of preliminary lady drinks, bar fines and the P4P itself, it becomes quite expensive. Better value elsewhere.

[brewsterbudgen]

16 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I have not been in the bar scene for many years. By the time one adds up the cost of preliminary lady drinks, bar fines and the P4P itself, it becomes quite expensive. Better value elsewhere.

Sure, but drinking in the bar is integral.  If you just need to pay for sex, that's easy to do elsewhere.

[Hummin]

This was a proper well thought educational topic. Congratulation

[KhunLA]

I'm sure the glamour of the job and prospects of early entitled retirement wears off fast.

 

After a few months with sexpats/sextourist, I'm not surprised if they've had their fill already of that lot.  

 

I used to bartend, and drunks are simply annoying.  Imagine being a woman and being mauled all night by a bunch of old, over weight, smelly CCs.  Then knowing you'll be back tomorrow.

 

That's motivation ... ????

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, herfiehandbag said:

To paraphrase (very loosely) Winston Churchill.

"Bargirls are lazy, their customers are ugly!

Tomorrow the Bargirl may choose to work very hard for a week, but the customers will still be ugly"!

 

[Lemsta69]

2 hours ago, PremiumLane said:

Translation: why can't I exploit people like the old days! 

if Thai hi-sos can do it why can't we?

[Lemsta69]

it's been this way for a long time hasn't it? been hearing about this stuff since the early noughties.

 

I'm still in to the bar scene but I've been doing it so long that I don't give a rat's what happens behind the scenes anymore. when they start talking about that stuff I'm like, DILLIGAF? ????

[howlee101]

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Imagine being a woman and being mauled all night by a bunch of old, over weight, smelly CCs.  Then knowing you'll be back tomorrow.

I can't understand why women aren't lining up to apply with such incentives as you describe. ????

[PremiumLane]

29 minutes ago, Lemsta69 said:

if Thai hi-sos can do it why can't we?

It's called having a moral code... it ain't difficult 

[OneMoreFarang]

Thanks for the expert information.

We all would have difficulties to survive without such knowledgeable people like you. 

You should consider a YouTube channel to spread your wisdom.

[Lemsta69]

7 minutes ago, PremiumLane said:

It's called having a moral code... it ain't difficult 

so I guess that means you pay at least double or triple your bill in tips to all Thai service staff that you interact with to compensate for the slave wages that they get paid? 

 

ps. this is no country for moral men.

[OneMoreFarang]

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

I have not been in the bar scene for many years. By the time one adds up the cost of preliminary lady drinks, bar fines and the P4P itself, it becomes quite expensive. Better value elsewhere.

What is better value elsewhere? Looking at sexy girls dancing?

Personally I think gogo bars are the best place to see what you get. How do they move? Are they interested to make customers happy or do they look more in the mirror and at their phone? And how is their mood today and now?

[Hummin]

6 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Thanks for the expert information.

We all would have difficulties to survive without such knowledgeable people like you. 

You should consider a YouTube channel to spread your wisdom.

Oh, please, there can not be to many of those wandering around in red light district and make youtube stuff

[starky]

Who knew? This is ground breaking research. ????????????

[starky]

3 hours ago, bolt said:

A bar girl has an earning potential of 20-30K per month, whereas working in a Gym or hotel reception is 10-12k

 

Incredibly difficult decision to make for a young girl, and to be honest working in a bar looks like fun most days.

Don't know where old mate got his figures but top shelf are making a stack more than 30k a month. That's peanuts. Heaps of  girls out there making that just in ladies drinks and that's before the barfining an everything else that comes with it. Not to mention the muppets will be back soon all the major sponsors and minor sponsors sending hookers money from foreign lands so they can book a spot on their return. Then you got your 2 week millionaires paying weeelllll over the odds I could go on and on but I think I've made my point.

Edited June 21, 2022 by starky

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

I'm sure the glamour of the job and prospects of early entitled retirement wears off fast.

 

After a few months with sexpats/sextourist, I'm not surprised if they've had their fill already of that lot.  

 

I used to bartend, and drunks are simply annoying.  Imagine being a woman and being mauled all night by a bunch of old, over weight, smelly CCs.  Then knowing you'll be back tomorrow.

 

That's motivation ... ????

There is one little detail which you don't mention: What's the alternative?

For many girls the alternative is to get f@$#54 by their Thai bf who is possibly drunk and just comes from another girl.

If the girls have the alternative of a drunk Thai guy who wants money or drunk farangs who pay money then the decision is not so difficult.

And yes, I know there are also nice Thai guys who take care of their girls - at least in theory they should exist.

[Lemsta69]

3 minutes ago, starky said:

Who knew? This is ground breaking research. ????????????

I'm guessing maybe that @Danderman123is newish to the scene and still trying to get his head around it. that or he's been here a long time but is just a bit too into the scene. I used to be like that until I got bored with the backstory.

 

go to bar, dlink a dlink, buy a few lady dlinks, get dlunk and have a big ol' sanuk. if they want a shoulder to cry on then they can pay you! ????

[timendres]

5 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

And yes, I know there are also nice Thai guys who take care of their girls - at least in theory they should exist.

There are many. But they have zero interest in bargirls.

[Grecian]

4 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

There is one little detail which you don't mention: What's the alternative?

For many girls the alternative is to get f@$#54 by their Thai bf who is possibly drunk and just comes from another girl.

If the girls have the alternative of a drunk Thai guy who wants money or drunk farangs who pay money then the decision is not so difficult.

And yes, I know there are also nice Thai guys who take care of their girls - at least in theory they should exist.

Omg! Somebody has taken too many blue pills. That old "Thai man no good" line.

how about choosing single

[starky]

8 minutes ago, Grecian said:

Omg! Somebody has taken too many blue pills. That old "Thai man no good" line.

how about choosing single

Cmon mate. You gotta play to your audience. Thai man no good,  I only love man (insert country here), you so hansum.  I like fat man no like skinny too much. Young man no good for me old better same you. 

  Oh you so big tilac. Etc etc etc.

 

[ThailandRyan]

3 hours ago, bolt said:

A bar girl has an earning potential of 20-30K per month, whereas working in a Gym or hotel reception is 10-12k

 

Incredibly difficult decision to make for a young girl, and to be honest working in a bar looks like fun most days.

Hmm, hey mama is it OK I lay on my back and spread my legs for many men to fill me with their seeds or should I stay in the hotel cleaning rooms.....Mama says, stay in the hotel cleaning rooms, falangs will help you lay on the bed and spread your legs. Money will be same same and you won't be drunk everyday....

[ThailandRyan]

2 minutes ago, starky said:

Cmon mate. You gotta play to your audience. Thai man no good,  I only love man (insert country here), you so hansum.  I like fat man no like skinny too much. Young man no good for me old better same you. 

  Oh you so big tilac. Etc etc etc.

 

I want baby white skin blue eyes just like you Mr. falang man, OK I want you not have to take care, OK for you....

[Gecko123]

3 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

The reality is that the ladies send very little home

Having lived in a small farming community for close to 20 years, this has most definitely been my observation. Practically zero trickle-down moolah being splashed around. Only remittances I've ever seen being sent home are for child care for the bar girl's own children, and usually it's just the bare minimum, i.e., 3-5K/mo.

 

I am sure some of the top lookers might pull in well over 30K a month, but I am inclined to believe that the 20-30K figure is true for many girls, especially with tourism struggling.

 

If that's true, that goes a long way towards explaining why there has been a precipitous drop in the quality of women attracted to the industry. 12K working a nine to five job compared to 20K to put up with all the stresses of sex work starts looking pretty good.

 

I thought the OP was very informative.

 

Edited June 21, 2022 by Gecko123