Loiner Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, baboon said: Oh? Whose payroll is Natalie Elphicke on? Shame on you! Is it a union? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, Loiner said: That was a very different Labour Party I learned about. Nothing like the recent cabal of liars masquerading as a party ‘for the many.’ Opinions differ. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post baboon Posted August 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Loiner said: Is it a union? There were trades unionists there. So whose payroll is she on? Corruption, sleaze... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, Loiner said: Because I’m not. Then back up your hyperbole. Remember legitimate contributions are neither sleaze nor indicative of being on the take. They are perfectly legal as long as they keep within the rules governing political contributions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: They are perfectly legal Still sleaze. Still on the take. Edited August 17, 2022 by Loiner . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted August 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Loiner said: Still sleaze. Still on the take. Nonsense. Back up your claim. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post baboon Posted August 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Loiner said: Still sleaze. I disagree, but as you insist. Now: What about granting peerages to sons of KGB agents and shaking off your security detail to meet him and his tather in private while serving as a minister? Let me guess: 'So what is the big deal unless they are politicians I don't like, in which case it is a bloody scandal'? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 26 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: Nonsense. Back up your claim. Have a look on the register of interests. Just because it’s in there does not make it not sleaze. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 21 minutes ago, baboon said: I disagree, but as you insist. Now: What about granting peerages to sons of KGB agents and shaking off your security detail to meet him and his tather in private while serving as a minister? Let me guess: 'So what is the big deal unless they are politicians I don't like, in which case it is a bloody scandal'? Nice bit of whataboutery. Try again. Does the KGB pay for help at strikers picket lines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Loiner said: Have a look on the register of interests. Just because it’s in there does not make it not sleaze. No need. The reason being that’s exactly what it does. Now back up your very specific claim. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 53 minutes ago, baboon said: There were trades unionists there. So whose payroll is she on? Corruption, sleaze... So a union paid for her and trades unionist support on a picket line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Bluespunk said: No need. The reason being that’s exactly what it does. Now back up your very specific claim. How much did the register record they were on the take? That’s the back up. All official. Labour sleaze. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, Loiner said: How much did the register record they were on the take? That’s the back up. All official. Labour sleaze. Nonsense. Now back up your claim. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: Nonsense. Now back up your claim. Its there on the record if you want to check it. Do a bit of Googling if you want, but don’t bother with your Guardian because they will probably have glossed over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Loiner said: Its there on the record if you want to check it. Do a bit of Googling if you want, but don’t bother with your Guardian because they will probably have glossed over it. No need because I know you are wrong. You have claimed that mps and the Labour Party are on the take or involved in sleaze because of perfectly legal contributions from trade unions. You have consistently failed to back this erroneous claim because you can’t. The reason you can’t is because it’s not true. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Loiner said: Nice bit of whataboutery. Try again. Does the KGB pay for help at strikers picket lines? The KGB has not existed since 1991. Johnson, however has feted their hiers and granted peerages to their sons, the corrupt, sleazy scumbag. He escaped from his security detail in order to party with them. You have no argument, other than screeching the equivalent of 'Two legs good, Four legs bad'. The Ministry of State Security archive just behind the Lubyanka is a fascinating place to visit. I was glad to have the opportunity, while we were briefly friends with Russia. I wonder where the current curator has placed one 'Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson' as an exhibit? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 19 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: No need because I know you are wrong. You have claimed that mps and the Labour Party are on the take or involved in sleaze because of perfectly legal contributions from trade unions. You have consistently failed to back this erroneous claim because you can’t. The reason you can’t is because it’s not true. Labour MPs taking cash from unions is Sleaze. Legal or not, registered or not, it is still Sleaze. All true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 18 minutes ago, baboon said: You have no argument, other than screeching the equivalent of 'Two legs good, Four legs bad'. I have no argument because I really could not careless about Boris and the KGB. I don’t suppose he received any cash to attend the party. Now, back to sleazy Labour MPs in the unions pocket to picket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, Loiner said: Labour MPs taking cash from unions is Sleaze. Legal or not, registered or not, it is still Sleaze. All true. Absolute nonsense. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Loiner said: I have no argument because I really could not careless about Boris and the KGB. I don’t suppose he received any cash to attend the party. Now, back to sleazy Labour MPs in the unions pocket to picket. And back to Natalie Elphicke at Dover, whether you could care or not. 'Shame on you!'! And as for Johnson, you don't care whether or not if he is a Kremlin asset? 'Shame on you'. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RayC Posted August 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2022 11 hours ago, Loiner said: He could threaten to stop taking their cash and block votes at congress if they strike. He could. Presumably, you would hold the Tory party to your lofty moral standards as well? https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/revealed-the-elite-dining-club-behind-130m-donations-to-the-tories/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 25 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: Absolute nonsense. Absolutely the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Loiner said: Absolutely the case. Nope. As usual, you got nothing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scott Posted August 17, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2022 Inflammatory, troll posts reported and removed. Continue and face a suspension. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted August 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2022 19 hours ago, Loiner said: ASLEF are. Are all the strikers from only one union? Affiliated or not, they’ve still been in the take. Individual MPs have been too. Labour is mired in their own corrupt sleaze with the unions. Yes. Evil labor. Tories have taken £62,000 from Russia-linked donors since war began The donations include £50,000 from Lubov Chernukhin, who is married to Vladimir Putin’s former deputy finance minister Reports say that her husband, Vladimir, had business dealings with oligarchs who are now under UK sanctions and earned up to £42m a year. Her donation to the Tories came on March 4, just eight days after Russian troops entered Ukraine – and just one day after Boris Johnson pledged to step up sanctions to "starve Putin’s war machine". https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/conservative-party-russia-donors-ukraine-invasion/ Tory donor with Russia links facing forgery charges in Luxembourg A businessman who has been described as a friend of Vladimir Putin, and who donated £400,000 to the Conservative party before the Brexit referendum, is facing charges of forgery in Luxembourg. Gérard Lopez, 50, who chaired the Lotus Formula One team in the UK, donated to the Tories in April 2016, two months before the referendum. He has denied the charges. It has been reported in D’Lëtzebuerger Land, a Luxembourg weekly political journal, that investigators have examined transfers of hundreds of thousands of pounds between the former operations of Lotus in the UK, a Luxembourg football club and a Hong Kong-based investment company. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jun/26/tory-donor-and-vladimir-putin-associate-facing-forgery-charges-in-luxembourg 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 1 minute ago, placeholder said: Yes. Evil labor. Tories have taken £62,000 from Russia-linked donors since war began The donations include £50,000 from Lubov Chernukhin, who is married to Vladimir Putin’s former deputy finance minister Reports say that her husband, Vladimir, had business dealings with oligarchs who are now under UK sanctions and earned up to £42m a year. Her donation to the Tories came on March 4, just eight days after Russian troops entered Ukraine – and just one day after Boris Johnson pledged to step up sanctions to "starve Putin’s war machine". https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/conservative-party-russia-donors-ukraine-invasion/ Tory donor with Russia links facing forgery charges in Luxembourg A businessman who has been described as a friend of Vladimir Putin, and who donated £400,000 to the Conservative party before the Brexit referendum, is facing charges of forgery in Luxembourg. Gérard Lopez, 50, who chaired the Lotus Formula One team in the UK, donated to the Tories in April 2016, two months before the referendum. He has denied the charges. It has been reported in D’Lëtzebuerger Land, a Luxembourg weekly political journal, that investigators have examined transfers of hundreds of thousands of pounds between the former operations of Lotus in the UK, a Luxembourg football club and a Hong Kong-based investment company. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jun/26/tory-donor-and-vladimir-putin-associate-facing-forgery-charges-in-luxembourg How much did Corbyn, the Labour Party leader at the time, get paid by the Iranians... https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/europe/boris-johnson-skewers-jeremy-corbyn-over-iranian-state-tv-payment-1.961762 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 1 hour ago, transam said: How much did Corbyn, the Labour Party leader at the time, get paid by the Iranians... https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/europe/boris-johnson-skewers-jeremy-corbyn-over-iranian-state-tv-payment-1.961762 Do you really want to compare the total volume of Russian contributions to the Conservative party to what Corbyn received from Iran? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 19 minutes ago, placeholder said: Do you really want to compare the total volume of Russian contributions to the Conservative party to what Corbyn received from Iran? You totally missed the point.....................???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted August 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, transam said: You totally missed the point.....................???? And you totally fail to understand why such an assertion by itself is inadequate. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now