Who would Thailand have to deal with if Putin falls ill?

[webfact]

Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev and Russia's President Vladimir Putin File photo

 

The mysterious death last week of a prominent critic of Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine in Washington’s West End neighborhood, coupled with the recent car bomb attack on a Putin ally, is drawing fury from some of the Kremlin’s best-known global detractors.

Will this pressure speed up the removal of President Putin to make way for a new President?

Although officially the next in line behind Putin would be Dmitry Medvedev, who has been serving as the deputy chairperson of the Security Council of Russia since 2020. 

However, a former KGB comrade of Vladimir Putin's, Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev could be selected as the most likely candidate to take the Russian president's place in power, according to the former head of British intelligence. 

Back in February 2018 Nikolai Patrushev, Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation, paid a working visit to Bangkok. 

He was received by H.E. General Prayut Chan-o-cha, Prime Minister of the Kingdom of Thailand. Mr. Nikolai Patrushev also held meetings with H.E. General Prawit Wongsuwon, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Defence of Thailand and H.E. General Wanlop Rugsanaoh, Secretary-General of the National Security Council of Thailand.

Mr. Nikolai Patrushev and General Prayut Chan-o-cha discussed a broad range of issues in the Russian-Thai relations with a focus on interaction in enhancing international and regional security.

So at least the Thai government has had dialogue before.

As reported by Business Insider, speculation over a possible Putin replacement has been a topic of conversation recently due to a variety of news that the Russian President’s health could be in decline. 

Kremlin insiders and Russian society have even behind closed doors have discussed what would happen if Putin were forced out over the Ukrainian invasion or succumbs to a hypothetical illness.

Sir Richard Dearlove, who served as head of the UK's Secret Intelligence Service from 1999 to 2004, claimed that the most likely heir candidate is Nikolai Patrushev, the secretary of Russia's Security Council and a longtime Putin ally known to be one of the exceedingly few officials to have the president's trust.

The former MI6 chief has previously theorized about Putin's likely longevity.

Dearlove has been known to predict that Putin could be forced into a medical facility for long-term illness in an effort to remove the president without a coup.  

The Kremlin has strenuously denied that the President is suffering from any health issues, and Putin himself said in June that such claims were "greatly exaggerated." 

Over in the States, CIA Director William Burns this month also dispelled rumors about the state of Putin's health, saying "as far as we can tell, he's entirely too healthy." 

But questions do remain, and Patrushev's emergence as a dependable front man are gaining momentum
A spokesperson for the Russian Security Council brushed aside that Patrushev is seeking any advancement.
Still, it seems experts consider Patrushev a man to watch. 

But whether Patrushev or any other selected replacement would last, is another question entirely, the experts said.

And would the Russian foreign policy remain, and could we hope for in a new President with a more peaceful attitude?

We will just have to watch this space.

 

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[RichardColeman]

Who would Thailand have to deal with if Putin falls ill?

 

Somebody sane maybe ? 

[Dene16]

  On 8/29/2022 at 7:56 PM, webfact said:

 Patrushev's emergence as a dependable front man are gaining momentum

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i don't think anyone is going to be putting their name in the hat as they all know how Putin got to where he is now.

[vandeventer]

  On 8/29/2022 at 9:30 PM, RichardColeman said:

Who would Thailand have to deal with if Putin falls ill?

 

Somebody sane maybe ? 

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Or who's ever left after the smoke clears?

[Scott]

Comments on moderation removed.  Continue and face a suspension.  You are under no obligation to read any thread and even less obligation to respond.  If you do, please be civil and on-topic.

 

[blazes]

Absurd article. 

 

On the other hand, the main theme of the article is germane to discussions of Thailand.  Who comes after?  or what difference will it make if X or Y becomes the nation's leader.

But  when one looks around and observes some of the dumbos in office all over the shop, you can see that governments worldwide are all cut from the same cloth.  [They differ only in the extent of brute force used to enforce law and order.]

The point of a government's existence is to exercise power, the longer the better, no matter how.  Just look at how the pandemic was "managed".  Worldwide.    The one consistent theme has been: "do as you're told, not do as we do"; obey the regulations, they are "mandates".  You can all fill in the blanks here....

[wombat]

  On 8/29/2022 at 7:56 PM, webfact said:

he's entirely too healthy." 

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Pmsl...is that polispeak for ..."we tried and failed"

I'll just get my coat.

[Reigntax]

  On 8/29/2022 at 11:01 PM, vandeventer said:

Or who's ever left after the smoke clears?

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There are plenty of narcissistic warmongering lunatics lined up behind him ready to create their own blot on the world 

[JoePai]

Hope the bar steward dies (painfully) - not falls ill

[bendejo]

The Russians will no doubt have an orderly, peaceful transfer of power.

Like this

 

 

[Tropposurfer]

Given the loud and fatal bang that happened the other night, and the chatter about who it was that may have set and detonated the charge it may be he will be violently and premeditatedly removed rather than 'naturally' falling over and having someone step over his peacefully reclined corpse.

[Lacessit]

It depends on whether Putin's successor subscribes to the same insanity of restoring the Soviet Union to its former "glory".

Hopefully a pragmatist, any Russian with two brain cells would realize withdrawing from Ukraine, and restoring normal relations with the rest of the world, would be a win for Russia.

[SymS]

Even if Putin is replaced, Russia's policies would likely not change much.

[spidermike007]

He will not fall ill. The way the universe seems to work is that truly evil, malicious, dishonest and malignant man and women do not seem to encounter bad fortune, get sick or die. It seems to be part of the universal game, to keep them alive and secure. A sad reality indeed. 

[Lacessit]

  On 8/30/2022 at 1:57 AM, SymS said:

Even if Putin is replaced, Russia's policies would likely not change much.

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Difficult to turn an ocean liner around quickly. It depends on whether his successor has the same intestinal fortitude as Gorbachev..

[jesimps]

  On 8/29/2022 at 9:30 PM, RichardColeman said:

Who would Thailand have to deal with if Putin falls ill?

 

Somebody sane maybe ? 

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Be difficult to find a sane Russian. Remember the cold war? They seem to be able to churn out plenty of these crazies.

[Lacessit]

  On 8/30/2022 at 2:01 AM, spidermike007 said:

He will not fall ill. The way the universe seems to work is that truly evil, malicious, dishonest and malignant man and women do not seem to encounter bad fortune, get sick or die. It seems to be part of the universal game, to keep them alive and secure. A sad reality indeed. 

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IIRC, Billy Joel was one of the first Western musicians to tour in Russia, and was greeted with wild enthusiasm.

[kingstonkid]

  On 8/29/2022 at 9:30 PM, RichardColeman said:

Who would Thailand have to deal with if Putin falls ill?

 

Somebody sane maybe ? 

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The easy answer is whoever the money people and military want us to deal with.  No different than Thailand really

[hotchilli]

  On 8/29/2022 at 9:30 PM, RichardColeman said:

Who would Thailand have to deal with if Putin falls ill?

 

Somebody sane maybe ? 

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Thailand would deal with the devil if it suited them.

[Burma Bill]

Who would Thailand have to deal with if Putin falls ill?

 

President Zelensky of Ukraine?????

[placeholder]

I don't understand the point of the subject posed as a question. Does Thailand have some sort of special relationship with Putin that differs from that of most other nations?

[2baht]

Surely there must be a good fortune teller or spirit man they could consult!

[allanos]

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 The OP is a "nothing burger", and quite pointless.

 

The answer is that nobody, outside of the Kremlin possibly, knows.

 

A more useful article might have been to put forward the top runners

and riders for President, and detail their credentials, and, more

especially in view of the subject line, their respective political instincts

or leanings in respect of Thailand.

 

Did we learn anything useful from the OP? Nope!

[Pdavies99]

Putins right hand men, Prayut and Satan!   Ha Ha!

[Dexxter]

  On 8/29/2022 at 9:30 PM, RichardColeman said:

Who would Thailand have to deal with if Putin falls ill?

 

Somebody sane maybe ? 

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Do you mean someone who is not Russian?

[Stargeezr]

It would seem that Mr. Putin will not live to old age if the special operations in Ukraine kills off way too many Russian soldiers. I can not imagine that all the people of Russia will stay silent and supportive if they lose a million of their young men and women in this invasion of Ukraine.  That is my 2 cents worth of opinion.

[sscc]

The title 

" Who would Thailand have to deal with if Putin falls ill ?  "

 

It mentioned    Thailand... Putin.... falls ill.  

Simply who the ----   wrote such title and article ? 

 

Mikhail Gorbachev had fallen ill and subsequently passed away in late Aug 2022. 

The writer of this article might be so outdated and confused about Gorbachev and Putin.