Covid-19 Vaccination for Very Young Children to Start Next Week

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BANGKOK, (TNA) – The Ministry of Public Health will begin the Covid-19 vaccination campaign for children aged six months to four years on Oct 12.

The Public Health Ministry will kick off the campaign at Pranangklao Hospital in Nonthaburi province.

 

Dr. Tares Krassanairawiwong, director-general of the Disease Control Department said hospitals nationwide were today trained on vaccine storage and vaccination for the very young children. The ministry targets the total of 300,000 children to get the shots on a voluntary basis.

 

Full story: https://tna.mcot.net/english-news-1032758

 

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[talahtnut]

For what reason?

[jacko45k]

16 minutes ago, talahtnut said:

For what reason?

Yes, it seems unnecessary and hence exposing the kids for no reason. 

[dhupverg]

Maybe they should follow the lead of the Scando countries and halt these for those under 18.

Edited October 7, 2022 by dhupverg

[realfunster]

The vaccines were purchased free of will by the Thai government, who should be the subject of your comments. The vaccines are also clearly identified as voluntary. 

 

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[Eleftheros]

4 hours ago, talahtnut said:

For what reason?

Not for health reasons, certainly.

[Flying Saucage]

Good to see there are studies not financed by big pharma and certain "philanthrops":

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36006288/

[EVENKEEL]

I'm still waiting for the covid brigade to preach why kids should be vaccinated. ... Because we know parents will be lining up with their babies.

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[onthedarkside]

Several posts have been removed for misinformation, unsourced claims and trolling.

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

fyi...

 

American Academy of Pediatrics Applauds CDC Approval of Safe, Effective COVID-19 Vaccines for Children Ages 6 Months and Older

 

"The AAP recommends COVID-19 vaccination for all children and adolescents 6 months of age and older who do not have contraindications using a vaccine authorized for use for their age."

 

"The American Academy of Pediatrics is an organization of 67,000 primary care pediatricians, pediatric medical subspecialists and pediatric surgical specialists dedicated to the health, safety and well-being of infants, children, adolescents and young adults."

 

https://www.aap.org/en/news-room/news-releases/aap/2022/american-academy-of-pediatrics-applauds-cdc-approval-of-safe-effective-covid-19-vaccines-for-children-ages-6-months-and-older/

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/covid19-vaccine-what-parents-need-to-know

Should I consider getting my child vaccinated for COVID-19?

"Yes. Experts, including those at Johns Hopkins, believe that there are many benefits:

 

The vaccine helps prevent kids from getting COVID-19: 

 

Although COVID-19 in children is sometimes milder than in adults, some kids infected with the coronavirus can get severe lung infections, become very sick and require hospitalization. This is especially important to remember in light of variants, which can be very contagious.

 

“The current vaccines are still effective in preventing severe illness from current variants of the virus,” Sick-Samuels notes. Children can also have complications such as multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children that may require intensive care or long-lasting symptoms that affect their health and well-being...

 

The vaccine helps prevent or reduce the spread of COVID-19: 

Like adults, children also can transmit the coronavirus to others if they’re infected, even when they have no symptoms."

 

AND

 

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/covid-19-vaccines-for-kids/art-20513332

 

"Can children who get COVID-19 experience long-term effects?

 

Anyone who has had COVID-19 can develop a post-COVID-19 condition. Research suggests that children with both mild and severe COVID-19 have experienced long-term symptoms. The most common symptoms in children include:

 

• Tiredness or fatigue
• Headache
• Trouble sleeping
• Trouble concentrating
• Muscle and joint pain
• Cough"

 

 

Edited October 7, 2022 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[onthedarkside]

Several trolling posts have been removed.

 

[onthedarkside]

A post with unsourced and unsubstantiated claims has been removed.

 

[MrJ2U]

On 10/7/2022 at 5:13 AM, talahtnut said:

For what reason?

Because vaccines reduce the risk of severe illness and hospitalizations.

 

"A new study has added to a growing body of evidence that COVID-19 vaccines and boosters protect against severe illness and death."

 

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/did-vaccines-make-a-difference-study-looks-at-rates-of-severe-illness-from-covid-19-1.6101102

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[Eleftheros]

Looking at the FDA data shows that the risk of a child aged 0-17 dying of Covid after testing positive is 0.00010149532, or about 1 in 10,000.

 

How much lower is vaccination supposed to drive that, especially since all medical vaccines carry some measure of risk to the receiver, that very young children are especially fragile, and that we can by definition not know anything about the long-term effects of these new vaccines?

 

[peter zwart]

On 10/7/2022 at 2:52 PM, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

fyi...

 

American Academy of Pediatrics Applauds CDC Approval of Safe, Effective COVID-19 Vaccines for Children Ages 6 Months and Older

 

"The AAP recommends COVID-19 vaccination for all children and adolescents 6 months of age and older who do not have contraindications using a vaccine authorized for use for their age."

 

"The American Academy of Pediatrics is an organization of 67,000 primary care pediatricians, pediatric medical subspecialists and pediatric surgical specialists dedicated to the health, safety and well-being of infants, children, adolescents and young adults."

 

https://www.aap.org/en/news-room/news-releases/aap/2022/american-academy-of-pediatrics-applauds-cdc-approval-of-safe-effective-covid-19-vaccines-for-children-ages-6-months-and-older/

 

Wasn't it the CDC that asked the US Supreme Court for legal approval to delay publishing side effects of the vaccine by 75 years?
 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

5 minutes ago, Eleftheros said:

Looking at the FDA data shows that the risk of a child aged 0-17 dying of Covid after testing positive is 0.00010149532, or about 1 in 10,000.

The U.S. CDC says, officially, that nearly 1,500 U.S. youngsters (age 0-18) have died from COVID during the pandemic.... 1,484 to use their exact number.

 

I'm guessing their parents and others would very much have wished they weren't among the victims of COVID....

 

Provisional COVID-19 deaths by age group, by sex

 

https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Deaths-by-Sex-Ages-0-18-years/xa4b-4pzv

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

9 minutes ago, peter zwart said:

Wasn't it the CDC that asked the US Supreme Court for legal approval to delay publishing side effects of the vaccine by 75 years?
 

 No,  it wasn't the CDC and it wasn't the Supreme Court.

 

https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/97544

 

FDA Begins Releasing Pfizer COVID Vax Documents

 

Court-ordered release runs risk of "cherry picking and taking things out of context"

 

March 7, 2022

 

"The FDA turned over thousands of documents related to its review of Pfizer-BioNTech's COVID-19 vaccine last week, marking the first of several releases mandated by a court in Texas earlier this year.

 

The agency released 55,000 pages of COVID-19 vaccine review documents last Tuesday, following a loss in court months earlier that forced it to expedite its process to make the information available to the public.

 

In a January court order, U.S. District Judge Mark Pittman of the Northern District of Texas required the FDA to release around 12,000 documents immediately, and then 55,000 pages a month until all documents are released -- totaling more than 300,000 pages."

 

https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/97544

 

[sandyf]

On 10/7/2022 at 5:13 AM, talahtnut said:

For what reason?

No chance whatsoever that what happens elsewhere could happen in Thailand.

Preventative measures are ouside the comprehension of many on TVF. Off for my flu jab on Tuesday.

 

"Concerning" increases in COVID hospitalisations in the past week suggest a new wave of infections is underway, UK health officials have said.

There were 9,631 people in hospital with coronavirus as of 8am on 5 October - a 37% increase on last week's 7,024.

 

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-concerning-increases-in-hospitalisations-with-250-rise-in-the-south-west-12713712

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[Eleftheros]

 

3 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

The agency released 55,000 pages of COVID-19 vaccine review documents last Tuesday, following a loss in court months earlier that forced it to expedite its process to make the information available to the public.

Tell me. Why does a reputable government agency have to be forced to make health information available to the public?

[peter zwart]

5 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 No,  it wasn't the CDC and it wasn't the Supreme Court.

 

https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/97544

 

FDA Begins Releasing Pfizer COVID Vax Documents

 

Court-ordered release runs risk of "cherry picking and taking things out of context"

 

March 7, 2022

 

"The FDA turned over thousands of documents related to its review of Pfizer-BioNTech's COVID-19 vaccine last week, marking the first of several releases mandated by a court in Texas earlier this year.

 

The agency released 55,000 pages of COVID-19 vaccine review documents last Tuesday, following a loss in court months earlier that forced it to expedite its process to make the information available to the public.

 

In a January court order, U.S. District Judge Mark Pittman of the Northern District of Texas required the FDA to release around 12,000 documents immediately, and then 55,000 pages a month until all documents are released -- totaling more than 300,000 pages."

 

https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/97544

 

You are absolutely right. Thanks for the correction. I was under the impression it was the CDC.
 

 

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/paramount-importance-judge-orders-fda-hasten-release-pfizer-vaccine-docs-2022-01-07/

[onthedarkside]

A misinformation post and two related posts have been removed.

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

10 minutes ago, Eleftheros said:

 

Tell me. Why does a reputable government agency have to be forced to make health information available to the public?

 

From the above cited MedPage article:

 

"The agency must redact confidential business and trade secret information from Pfizer and BioNTech, as well as any private information on patients in the clinical trial. In its proposal for a 55-year timeline, the FDA noted that the branch that would handle the request has only 10 employees, and is currently processing around 400 other FOIA requests."

 

AND

 

"Zach Zalewski, PhD, JD, a regulatory strategy consultant at Avalere Health, said that many of the documents that will be released were submitted to the FDA up through the vaccine's emergency use authorization and full approval, and may not be material to an overall analysis of the vaccine's safety and efficacy. The FDA already published a drug approval package for Pfizer-BioNTech's COVID-19 vaccine, which consists of summaries of the FDA-reviewed data."

 

Perhaps Republicans in Congress might want to think about putting up some additional funding and staff positions so the FDA can timely meet the demands that it's facing in a time of COVID.

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Research examines which children were most severely sickened by COVID-19 and finds vaccinations were significantly protective

 

Oct. 7, 2022

 

ANAHEIM, CA-Children with a pre-existing illness were at highest risk of severe illness or death due to a COVID-19 infection, but those who were vaccinated had a significantly higher level of protection, according to research presented during the 2022 American Academy of Pediatrics National Conference & Exhibition.

 

 The abstract, “Identifying Risk Factors for Severe Clinical Outcomes in Pediatric COVID-19 Patients In a National Electronic Health Record Repository,” examined the effect of vaccination, clinical and demographic factors on severe outcomes in children with COVID-19¬ from March 12, 2020, through January 20, 2022.

...

The research found that, across all age groups, presence of pre-existing illness and residence in the Census-defined South region were most often associated with severe outcomes (including hospitalization, ICU admission, use of inpatient respiratory support, and death). In eligible age groups, vaccination was significantly associated with less severe outcomes. Infants had more severe illness than older children, the author found."

 

(more)

 

https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/966487

 

 

Also:

 

"Researchers from the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center in Dallas analyzed the electronic health records of US COVID-19 patients aged 0 to 18 years from Mar 12, 2020, to Jan 20, 2022.

 

Of 218,759 pediatric COVID-19 patients, 8,717 (4.0%) were hospitalized, admitted to an intensive care unit, needed ventilation, or died. The strongest risk factor for a severe outcome was a preexisting illness (odds ratios [ORs], 2.27, 4.21, and 5.33 for ages 0 to 2, 3 to 10, and 11 to 18 years, respectively). The OR of severe disease among recipients of at least one COVID-19 vaccine dose relative to no vaccination was 0.55 in the vaccine-eligible group, indicating 45% effectiveness."

 

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/10/news-scan-oct-07-2022

 

Edited October 8, 2022 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[EVENKEEL]

8 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Research examines which children were most severely sickened by COVID-19 and finds vaccinations were significantly protective

 

Oct. 7, 2022

 

ANAHEIM, CA-Children with a pre-existing illness were at highest risk of severe illness or death due to a COVID-19 infection, but those who were vaccinated had a significantly higher level of protection, according to research presented during the 2022 American Academy of Pediatrics National Conference & Exhibition.

 

 The abstract, “Identifying Risk Factors for Severe Clinical Outcomes in Pediatric COVID-19 Patients In a National Electronic Health Record Repository,” examined the effect of vaccination, clinical and demographic factors on severe outcomes in children with COVID-19¬ from March 12, 2020, through January 20, 2022.

...

The research found that, across all age groups, presence of pre-existing illness and residence in the Census-defined South region were most often associated with severe outcomes (including hospitalization, ICU admission, use of inpatient respiratory support, and death). In eligible age groups, vaccination was significantly associated with less severe outcomes. Infants had more severe illness than older children, the author found."

 

(more)

 

https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/966487

 

 

Also:

 

"Researchers from the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center in Dallas analyzed the electronic health records of US COVID-19 patients aged 0 to 18 years from Mar 12, 2020, to Jan 20, 2022.

 

Of 218,759 pediatric COVID-19 patients, 8,717 (4.0%) were hospitalized, admitted to an intensive care unit, needed ventilation, or died. The strongest risk factor for a severe outcome was a preexisting illness (odds ratios [ORs], 2.27, 4.21, and 5.33 for ages 0 to 2, 3 to 10, and 11 to 18 years, respectively). The OR of severe disease among recipients of at least one COVID-19 vaccine dose relative to no vaccination was 0.55 in the vaccine-eligible group, indicating 45% effectiveness."

 

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/10/news-scan-oct-07-2022

 

I'll give you a gold star for copy and paste. Now, tell me you have a young kid who's being vaccinated for covid.

[onthedarkside]

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