Sparktrader Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Their prices go up at 5pm even for following evening. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MrJ2U Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) You'll usually get a better deal booking directly with the hotel. I use sites like Agoda, booking. Com, Hotels.com, etc as a reference. Then just book on the hotels website or call them. There happy not to pay the commission and offer you a better prices. Although for small "Thai" owned hotels it can be useful as the staff have little leeway when the Chinese owners aren't there. Edited November 7, 2022 by MrJ2U 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, MrJ2U said: You'll usually get a better deal booking directly with the hotel. I use sites like Agoda, booking. Com, Hotels.com, etc as a reference. Then just book on the hotels website or call them. There happy not to pay the commission and offer you a better prices. Although for small "Thai" owned hotels it can be useful as the staff have little leeway when the Chinese owners aren't there. 80 baht cheaper online this time but then price went up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, MrJ2U said: You'll usually get a better deal booking directly with the hotel. I use sites like Agoda, booking. Com, Hotels.com, etc as a reference. Then just book on the hotels website or call them. There happy not to pay the commission and offer you a better prices. Although for small "Thai" owned hotels it can be useful as the staff have little leeway when the Chinese owners aren't there. I had a situation in a Singapore hotel where I needed to extend my stay that was originally booked via agoda. I asked at reception if I could extend and they said they were full, no extension. I went to my room and checked the hotel's website and that confirmed what reception had just told me. I looked on agoda to see if any rooms were available in a nearby hotel. The hotel I was in came up as having availability so I called reception and mentioned this. The same person that had just told me they were full and couldn't extend told me to go ahead and book the extension via agoda and they would honor it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sparktrader Posted November 7, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, NanLaew said: I had a situation in a Singapore hotel where I needed to extend my stay that was originally booked via agoda. I asked at reception if I could extend and they said they were full, no extension. I went to my room and checked the hotel's website and that confirmed what reception had just told me. I looked on agoda to see if any rooms were available in a nearby hotel. The hotel I was in came up as having availability so I called reception and mentioned this. The same person that had just told me they were full and couldn't extend told me to go ahead and book the extension via agoda and they would honor it. They allocate certain number of rooms. Must be under contract. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soi3eddie Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Numerous things that hotel booking sites do to get you to book. Statements such as: Only x rooms left at this price Last booked x minutes ago x number of people looking at this room now I suspect, but cannot prove, that they use website cookies or account info, and then when you go back to book the price has increased as they know you are interested in booking a certain hotel/room. As for booking direct with the hotel for a better price then unlikely as the booking websites have strong agreements/rules with the properties in exchange for taking a certain amount of rooms or to market the property. I use Agoda a lot simply for the convenience. Used to get Thai Airways Royal Orchid Plus ROP miles but they quitely dropped that since late 2020. Once, in Hua Hin in 2019 was at a hotel booked through Agoda and wanted to stay another few nights. Asked at front desk and offered to pay cash there and then. They said NO please book on Agoda! I said Agoda shows unavailable, they said "we'll open bookings again" so I booked and paid on Agoda. Would have thought they wanted a simple cash transaction but No. TIT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJ2U Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 21 minutes ago, NanLaew said: I had a situation in a Singapore hotel where I needed to extend my stay that was originally booked via agoda. I asked at reception if I could extend and they said they were full, no extension. I went to my room and checked the hotel's website and that confirmed what reception had just told me. I looked on agoda to see if any rooms were available in a nearby hotel. The hotel I was in came up as having availability so I called reception and mentioned this. The same person that had just told me they were full and couldn't extend told me to go ahead and book the extension via agoda and they would honor it. It's almost like a game. Good for you! It's a drag and time consuming to have to switch hotels. Well done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 17 minutes ago, soi3eddie said: Numerous things that hotel booking sites do to get you to book. Statements such as: Only x rooms left at this price Last booked x minutes ago x number of people looking at this room now I suspect, but cannot prove, that they use website cookies or account info, and then when you go back to book the price has increased as they know you are interested in booking a certain hotel/room. As for booking direct with the hotel for a better price then unlikely as the booking websites have strong agreements/rules with the properties in exchange for taking a certain amount of rooms or to market the property. I use Agoda a lot simply for the convenience. Used to get Thai Airways Royal Orchid Plus ROP miles but they quitely dropped that since late 2020. Once, in Hua Hin in 2019 was at a hotel booked through Agoda and wanted to stay another few nights. Asked at front desk and offered to pay cash there and then. They said NO please book on Agoda! I said Agoda shows unavailable, they said "we'll open bookings again" so I booked and paid on Agoda. Would have thought they wanted a simple cash transaction but No. TIT. Each day a new discount using different payment ie mastercard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lacessit Posted November 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2022 I only book when I am outside Thailand, usually through Agoda. For road trips in Thailand, we roll into a hotel and ask the price. 500 - 700 baht/night is acceptable. We then ask to see the room. Specifications are clean, big bed, working aircon and plumbing. I test them. I look at my GF, it's either a nod or a shake of the head. I remember a guy in Sukhothai who quoted a price of 650 baht, then refused to let us see the room. Mai ow krap. We drove to another hotel less than a kilometre away, very good room, breakfast included, 550 baht. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Lacessit said: I only book when I am outside Thailand, usually through Agoda. For road trips in Thailand, we roll into a hotel and ask the price. 500 - 700 baht/night is acceptable. We then ask to see the room. Specifications are clean, big bed, working aircon and plumbing. I test them. I look at my GF, it's either a nod or a shake of the head. I remember a guy in Sukhothai who quoted a price of 650 baht, then refused to let us see the room. Mai ow krap. We drove to another hotel less than a kilometre away, very good room, breakfast included, 550 baht. Ok if have car. Easy check out 2 or 3. Not easy with tuk tuk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lacessit Posted November 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2022 15 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: Ok if have car. Easy check out 2 or 3. Not easy with tuk tuk. Are you trying to get your post count up with inane responses? Who does a road trip in a tuk-tuk? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorTashi Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 hour ago, soi3eddie said: I suspect, but cannot prove, that they use website cookies or account info, and then when you go back to book the price has increased I've been staying in hotels a lot up until this week and the prices have been going up but I thought it was because of high season. I was staying for a long time in one hotel and the first price I paid in August was 290, then it was 300, then 311, then 320 and last time I checked it was over 400. ( I did eventually get a monthly rate of 5000 when I realised I was sticking around) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Triangle Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I was staying at a hotel and a friend wanted to stay at the same place, I asked reception, no problem they said, but he couldn't stay at the same price I was paying unless he booked online, it transpired that they had a daily allocation of rooms at a special price and these had to be used before they could accept 'normal' bookings, strange but true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 5 hours ago, Lacessit said: Are you trying to get your post count up with inane responses? Who does a road trip in a tuk-tuk? Travellers use tuk tuks and taxis. Think before you post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Sparktrader said: Travellers use tuk tuks and taxis. Think before you post. AFAIK they don't use tuk-tuks to travel from Chiang Mai to Chiang Rai, unless they are complete masochists. Seems you don't know what a road trip is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, Lacessit said: AFAIK they don't use tuk-tuks to travel from Chiang Mai to Chiang Rai, unless they are complete masochists. Seems you don't know what a road trip is. The use songthaews/Red cars when the buses are full Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2baht Posted November 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2022 9 hours ago, Sparktrader said: 80 baht cheaper online this time but then price went up. Wow! 80 baht, thanks for the "heads up" Sparky! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said: The use songthaews/Red cars when the buses are full I wonder how long a trip like that would take, what with picking up and dropping off, plus the slow speed of songthaews. The Green Bus between CM and CR takes about 3 hours, doing 80 km/hr. IMO it would be a long and uncomfortable journey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w5phot Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 14 hours ago, Sparktrader said: Their prices go up at 5pm even for following evening. The big hotel chains use AI-driven pricing which take into account a lot more variables than time. Things like the country you book from, IOS/Android, the number of times you've checked, the day of the week, how near to the booking date, etc. So if you see the prices go up at 5pm, it might not necessarily be true for other people. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 13 hours ago, Lacessit said: I wonder how long a trip like that would take, what with picking up and dropping off, plus the slow speed of songthaews. The Green Bus between CM and CR takes about 3 hours, doing 80 km/hr. IMO it would be a long and uncomfortable journey. The Green bus takes about 3 hours and 15 minutes and a distance of 189 kilometres makes the speed about 60 KPH and a songthaew can do it in about the same time . The songthaew goes from bus station to bus station and no dropping off and they only run when the days buses are full and they have ten passengers at 300 Baht per person . Really uncomfortable and dusty as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 17 hours ago, Lacessit said: AFAIK they don't use tuk-tuks to travel from Chiang Mai to Chiang Rai, unless they are complete masochists. Seems you don't know what a road trip is. They take a bus then a tuk tuk or taxi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 16 hours ago, 2baht said: Wow! 80 baht, thanks for the "heads up" Sparky! Most on here are paying 5,000 baht a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer6969 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 16 hours ago, 2baht said: Wow! 80 baht, thanks for the "heads up" Sparky! Yep, it made the room 30% cheaper. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 16 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: They take a bus then a tuk tuk or taxi. I get it, you want to be an ASEAN oracle. Permit me to doubt you will achieve that with statements of the bleeding obvious. You won't be doing it with vacuous putdowns such as "Think before you post" or " You obviously haven't been there" either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lacessit said: I get it, you want to be an ASEAN oracle. Permit me to doubt you will achieve that with statements of the bleeding obvious. You won't be doing it with vacuous putdowns such as "Think before you post" or " You obviously haven't been there" either. You are an angry guy. Bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2baht Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 7 hours ago, Sparktrader said: Most on here are paying 5,000 baht a month. My wife owns my houses! ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 9 hours ago, Sparktrader said: You are an angry guy. Bye. You may be right, people who go out of their way to be annoying have that effect on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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