Rockets or missiles reported to have landed in Poland near Ukrainian border, killing 2

[Mac Mickmanus]

Just now, ozimoron said:

Hopefully they will declare a no fly zone over Ukraine and use NATO forces to enforce it.

Do no fly zones include rockets ?

    The idea of NATO having a no fly Zone over Ukraine were rejected by NATO as they thought that it could lead to a Nuclear war 

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Do no fly zones include rockets ?

    The idea of NATO having a no fly Zone over Ukraine were rejected by NATO as they thought that it could lead to a Nuclear war 

Yes, they do. They are getting closer to the conclusion that intervention to end the war is needed I believe. Just my opinion from various comments. The war crimes are a factor as it the world economy and food prices.

[Mac Mickmanus]

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

The third time I asked you now, who? I'm only aware that trump claimed it.

You can do a websearch for "Russian missile hits Poland* to see who the people were that made that claim .

   Many results come up 

[ozimoron]

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

You can do a websearch for "Russian missile hits Poland* to see who the people were that made that claim .

   Many results come up 

You're required under board rules to provide those links when challenged.

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

You're required under board rules to provide those links when challenged.

Here you go , 

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=russian+missile+hits+poland&sxsrf=ALiCzsarNlC6Pk8JmEK4KlKSPGkGpHbxEA:1668606719217&ei=_-p0Y8PoDIufgQb5rb7YAQ&start=90&sa=N&ved=2ahUKEwiD5JK27LL7AhWLT8AKHfmWDxsQ8tMDegQIAhAU&biw=1163&bih=525&dpr=1.65

 

  Scroll back a few pages to get news from yesterday to see who made the claims  

Edited November 16, 2022 by Mac Mickmanus

[Bluespunk]

36 minutes ago, steven100 said:

Come on NATO ....  get off your butt and start bombing Moscow and Putin's PALACE and every damn Russian in sight. 

Keyboard warrior wanting to see the slaughter of civilians who may want nothing to do with putin or his war.
 

In addition wishing for nuclear Armageddon.
 

Frank Zappa quote comes to mind

 

“Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.“

 

 

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Here you go , 

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=russian+missile+hits+poland&sxsrf=ALiCzsYaP4DeytRAm9hlXCH50i5sOeqGcg:1668606713179&ei=-ep0Y_S-CpmX8gK9urjQAg&start=0&sa=N&ved=2ahUKEwi0n6Kz7LL7AhWZi1wKHT0dDio4ChDy0wN6BAgBEAQ&biw=1163&bih=525&dpr=1.65

I can't see where any person of consequence claimed that Russia fired the missile. You know very well you need to cough up an actual link.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Here you go , 

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=russian+missile+hits+poland&sxsrf=ALiCzsYaP4DeytRAm9hlXCH50i5sOeqGcg:1668606713179&ei=-ep0Y_S-CpmX8gK9urjQAg&start=0&sa=N&ved=2ahUKEwi0n6Kz7LL7AhWZi1wKHT0dDio4ChDy0wN6BAgBEAQ&biw=1163&bih=525&dpr=1.65

Nothing on the first page to substantiate your claims, how many pages deep would you like us to go? Perhaps those 6 links you said were online you can highlight in the 156,000,000 results?

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

I can't see where any person of consequence claimed that Russia fired the missile. You know very well you need to cough up an actual link.

Can you see this ?

Russian missile hits Poland, killing two: Report

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/russian-missile-hits-poland-killing-two-report

 

 

U.S. official says Russian missiles hit Poland, killing two -Associated Press

 

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/u-s--official-says-russian-missiles-hit-poland--killing-two--associated-press/48060092

 

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Can you see this ?

U.S. official says Russian missiles hit Poland, killing two -Associated Press

 

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/u-s--official-says-russian-missiles-hit-poland--killing-two--associated-press/48060092

 

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the situation, the AP reported. Reuters could not immediately confirm the information.

[ozimoron]

10 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Can you see this ?

Russian missile hits Poland, killing two: Report

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/russian-missile-hits-poland-killing-two-report

 

 

U.S. official says Russian missiles hit Poland, killing two -Associated Press

 

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/u-s--official-says-russian-missiles-hit-poland--killing-two--associated-press/48060092

 

hmm, ok. I'll accept that Thanks. I did say (twice) "anyone of consequence" and the articles refer to a washington examiner (cough) "defense reporter" (lol)'s own (presumably) opinion and an unnamed US official from an anonymous source. So, so far we still don't know of anybody other than Trump who can be pinned with the false accusation.

 

You're probably also aware that the WE is not an approved source here and this article is a case in point why that's the case.

Edited November 16, 2022 by ozimoron

[farmerjo]

 There is only one explanation.

With a 100,000 troops killed on each side the newly trained recruits set the machine up 180 degrees out.

[ozimoron]

3 minutes ago, farmerjo said:

 There is only one explanation.

With a 100,000 troops killed on each side the newly trained recruits set the machine up 180 degrees out.

It could have backfired?

[Mac Mickmanus]

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

hmm, ok. I'll accept that Thanks. I did say (twice) "anyone of consequence" and the articles refer to a washington examiner (cough) reporter's own (presumably) opinion and an unnamed US official from an anonymous source. So, so far we still don't know of anybody other than Trump who can be pinned with the false accusation.

There has been a missile attack  that hit Poland and it could have sparked an escalation of the war as the missile may have  , and it could have resulted in a World War.....................and we are sat here talking about what Trump said!!!!!!!!!

   Try to think bout something other than Trump for a while 

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

There has been a missile attack  that hit Poland and it could have sparked an escalation of the war as the missile may have  , and it could have resulted in a World War.....................and we are sat here talking about what Trump said!!!!!!!!!

   Try to think bout something other than Trump for a while 

hmm, ookaay.

[Mac Mickmanus]

12 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

. So, so far we still don't know of anybody other than Trump who can be pinned with the false accusation.

 

Although Trump didn't actually make that accusation .

Although I will not mention him again, I just thought that I would point that that Trump didn't make that accusation and I refuse to get into yet a another discussion about what Trump did say or didn't say or what he meant or explain to people what the word "probably" " means and that the word "probably " ISNT making an accusation

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Although Trump didn't actually make that accusation .

Although I will not mention him again, I just thought that I would point that that Trump didn't make that accusation and I refuse to get into yet a another discussion about what Trump did say or didn't say or what he meant or explain to people what the word "probably" " means and that the word "probably " ISNT making an accusation

For the record:

 

Missile landing in Poland

Trump claimed Tuesday that a missile that was “sent in probably by Russia” landed 50 miles into Poland, “People are going absolutely wild and crazy and they’re not happy,” Trump said from Mar-a-Lago.

Facts First: This claim is false. While Poland said a Russian-made missile did land in their territory Tuesday, killing two Polish citizens, the explosion happened about four miles west from the Ukrainian border.

Additionally, it remains unclear where the missile was fired from, and why it fell in Poland.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/11/15/politics/fact-check-trump-announcement-speech-2024/index.html

[Mac Mickmanus]

6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

For the record:

 

Missile landing in Poland

Trump claimed Tuesday that a missile that was “sent in probably by Russia” landed 50 miles into Poland, “People are going absolutely wild and crazy and they’re not happy,” Trump said from Mar-a-Lago.

Facts First: This claim is false. While Poland said a Russian-made missile did land in their territory Tuesday, killing two Polish citizens, the explosion happened about four miles west from the Ukrainian border.

Additionally, it remains unclear where the missile was fired from, and why it fell in Poland.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/11/15/politics/fact-check-trump-announcement-speech-2024/index.html

Thank you . proof that Trump actually  didn't that claim the missiles were fired by Russia and just gave the general opinion at the time that they probably were fired from Russia as that's what many people assumed at the time 

[ozimoron]

16 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Although Trump didn't actually make that accusation .

Although I will not mention him again, I just thought that I would point that that Trump didn't make that accusation and I refuse to get into yet a another discussion about what Trump did say or didn't say or what he meant or explain to people what the word "probably" " means and that the word "probably " ISNT making an accusation

I can't find my original source but here's some proof that he did, albeit from an unreliable source.

 

Trump contradicts Biden and says Russia probably sent the missile into Poland

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11433149/Trump-contradicts-Biden-missile-hit-Poland-saying-probably-Russia.html

 

Trump said that "even today a missile was sent to Poland probably by Russia" and people are going “wild and crazy” over it. He went on to say that Biden is “leading us to the brink of nuclear war”.

 

https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/us-news/trump-condemns-missile-strike-on-poland-says-biden-leading-us-to-brink-of-nuclear-war-articleshow.html

Edited November 16, 2022 by ozimoron

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Thank you . proof that Trump actually  didn't that claim the missiles were fired by Russia and just gave the general opinion at the time that they probably were fired from Russia as that's what many people assumed at the time 

He also claimed it was fired 50 miles into Poland, wrong............lol

Edited November 16, 2022 by Bkk Brian

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

He also claimed it was fired 50 miles into Poland, wrong............lol

True, I heard him say it and documented that at the time.

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 hour ago, steven100 said:

maybe it didn't come from Russia but was fired by Russians from inside Ukraine is my guess. 

It was fired an Ukrainian missile fired  by Ukrainian forces and the target was Russian 

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, steven100 said:

maybe it didn't come from Russia but was fired by Russians from inside Ukraine is my guess. 

NATO aircraft tracked missile that hit Poland – CNN

 

Tuesday’s blast on Polish territory, which killed two civilians, was caused by a Ukrainian air defense missile, Reuters has reported.

Edited November 16, 2022 by KhunLA

[internationalism]

scott ritter viewpoint.

poland and the baltic states were aware from the very beginning it was ukrainian missile, but are pushing for nato involvement in ukraine 

 

Edited November 16, 2022 by internationalism

[ozimoron]

11 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

NATO aircraft tracked missile that hit Poland – CNN

 

Tuesday’s blast on Polish territory, which killed two civilians, was caused by a Ukrainian air defense missile, Reuters has reported.

While attempting to shoot down a russian missile committing a war crime by attacking civilian infrastructure and civilians themselves.

[ozimoron]

5 minutes ago, internationalism said:

scott ritter viewpoint.

poland and the baltic states were aware from the very beginning it was ukrainian missile, but are pushing for nato involvement in ukraine 

Sure they are, they wanted a no fly zone to protect civilians for months. They may get it soon.

[Bkk Brian]

10 minutes ago, internationalism said:

scott ritter viewpoint.

poland and the baltic states were aware from the very beginning it was ukrainian missile, but are pushing for nato involvement in ukraine 

 

Scott Ridder was wrong, Poland said this:

 

Polish PM @MorawieckiM said that the explosion in Poland was likely caused by a missile being shot down "without any intention." "Materials collected by our services…most probably indicate that the explosion…was caused by the shooting down &destruction of a missile”-CNN

 

[internationalism]

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Sure they are, they wanted a no fly zone to protect civilians for months. They may get it soon.

and that means ww3, just short of nuclear

[internationalism]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Scott Ridder was wrong, Poland said this:

 

Polish PM @MorawieckiM said that the explosion in Poland was likely caused by a missile being shot down "without any intention." "Materials collected by our services…most probably indicate that the explosion…was caused by the shooting down &destruction of a missile”-CNN

 

no, they have called russian ambassador to the ministry of foreign affairs

[ozimoron]

Just now, internationalism said:

and that means ww3, just short of nuclear

China has warned Russia against any use of nuclear weapons. I don't think Russia's threat to use nuclear weapons is quite the deterrent than it was, overall. NATO have been making murmurings about needing to end the soon soon. And they don't mean a cease fire.