Data from Hunter Biden's laptop is real and was not planted by Russians looking to frame the Biden family: CBS News

[Credo]

Much of the reason behind not allowing material from the laptop was because it violated the policy on nudity.  What was disallowed and censored were pictures of possible drug use and nudity.   

 

[EVENKEEL]

6 minutes ago, Credo said:

Much of the reason behind not allowing material from the laptop was because it violated the policy on nudity.  What was disallowed and censored were pictures of possible drug use and nudity.   

 

Hunter is a party animal, I'll give him that. 

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

1. OK, the data was accurate. To be pedantic. No evidence that it was forged or planted or altered in any way.

 

2. The media rarely wait to verify stories before printing.  See- Russia Collusion for example.  They publish, then verify, then issue correction/retractions.   Imagine this was Donald Trump Jr's laptop.  Do you honestly think the media would have held onto it?

 

Plus waiting for verification is one thing, but actively surpressing the story is another. Twitter FROZE the account of a major newspaper for a week. Other media actively crushed any mention of it.   They instead actively tried to DISprove it rather than verify. Witness the 50 'intelligence officials' who all said it was Russian disinformation.  

Its only accurate if it is ALL is forensically analysed. CBS did not do that they only made assumptions, read the thread. Washington Post also could not verify all of it, only a small portion. They did find tampering of the data had been evidenced before it even reached the FBI. You are wrong to state that there's no evidence that it had been altered in any way.

 

A review of hard drive by The Washington Post - March 30, 2022

The vast majority of the data — and most of the nearly 129,000 emails it contained — could not be verified by either of the two security experts who reviewed the data for The Post.

The experts found the data had been repeatedly accessed and copied by people other than Hunter Biden over nearly three years. (Before possession by the FBI)

Most of the data obtained by The Post lacks cryptographic features that would help experts make a reliable determination of authenticity

The Post’s review of these emails found that most were routine communications that provided little new insight into Hunter Biden’s work for the company.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-biden-laptop-data-examined/

 

The media followed their own policies at the time which clearly did not allow them to publish or link to any data from the laptop.

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20190717143909/https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/hacked-materials

https://web.archive.org/web/20190625224627/https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/personal-information

 

Even the so called Twitter files that Musk released confirmed there was no evidence of government collusion to suppress the laptop story:

 

“no evidence” of “any government involvement in the laptop story.” Taibbi found that federal law enforcement had contacted Twitter months before the New York Post article with a “general” warning about “possible foreign hacks,”

 

When NBC tried to report on the story:

"Most mainstream news organizations, including NBC News, have not been granted access to the documents. NBC News asked by email, text, phone call and certified mail, and was ultimately denied."

 

Some emails that the Washington Post were able to verify are quite interesting though regarding Tucker Carlson's relationship with Hunter. Favours for the boys.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/19/look-time-tucker-carlson-asked-hunter-biden-favor/

 

 

many questions remain about how the materials got into the hands of Trump’s lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, who has met with Russian agents in his effort to dig dirt on the Bidens.

U.S. intelligence agencies have informed the White House that Giuliani has been in contact with alleged Russian intelligence agents. The FBI has been looking into whether the Russians played any role, and no official has ruled that out.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/here-s-what-happened-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533

 

 

Edited December 6, 2022 by Bkk Brian

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

CBS conducted an independent forensic review, according to the original post here. The Washington Post and the New York Times did the same.  Is that enough evidence for you?

 

The paper said it spent months reviewing the data and making two copies of the hard drive so they could be analyzed by Matt Green, a Johns Hopkins University security researcher, and Jake Williams, a forensics expert and former National Security Agency operative. Both experts concluded that the verified emails carried cryptographic signatures that would be hard to fake, even for the best computer hackers.

 

https://nypost.com/2022/03/30/washington-post-admits-hunter-biden-laptop-is-real/

So?  How does that prove that what is stated in the emails is true?  For that matter, what smoking gun statements are in the emails?

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

1. OK, the data was accurate. To be pedantic. No evidence that it was forged or planted or altered in any way.

 

2. The media rarely wait to verify stories before printing.  See- Russia Collusion for example.  They publish, then verify, then issue correction/retractions.   Imagine this was Donald Trump Jr's laptop.  Do you honestly think the media would have held onto it?

 

Plus waiting for verification is one thing, but actively surpressing the story is another. Twitter FROZE the account of a major newspaper for a week. Other media actively crushed any mention of it.   They instead actively tried to DISprove it rather than verify. Witness the 50 'intelligence officials' who all said it was Russian disinformation.  

1.  Accurate how?  Can you guarantee there are no lies or misrepresentations in the data on the hard drive?

 

2.  The media almost always waits for verification, and generally regrets those rare times when it doesn't.  I don't recall any reputable media organization stating Russian collusion as a fact, only as a concern.  If you can provide examples of the Russian collusion concerns reported as fact, please do so.

 

Twitter didn't want to play the October surprise game unless the story was verified.  That was the responsible thing to do.

[metisdead]

FBI warned Twitter during ‘weekly’ meetings of Hunter Biden ‘hack-and-leak operation’ before censoring The Post

 

The FBI warned Twitter during “weekly” meetings before the 2020 election to expect “hack-and-leak operations’’ by “state actors” involving Hunter Biden, and “likely” in October, according to a sworn declaration by Twitter’s former head of site integrity, Yoel Roth. 

The warnings were so specific that Twitter immediately censored The Post’s scoop about Hunter Biden’s laptop on Oct. 14, 2020, citing its “hacked materials” policy, a move described on Saturday as “election interference” by Twitter’s new owner, Elon Musk. 

The extraordinary revelation for the first time lays bare how the FBI was involved in pre-bunking the story of the laptop, which had been in the bureau’s possession for almost a year. 

 

https://nypost.com/2022/12/04/fbi-warned-twitter-of-hunter-biden-hack-before-censoring-the-post/

[metisdead]

Hunter Biden cagey about Elon Musk Twitter reveal on laptop story censor

 

 

Hunter Biden blew off questions while at a White House event Sunday about the release of Twitter documents showing how the social media giant suppressed The Post’s blockbuster reports on his laptop in October 2020. 

The first son attended the star-studded reception in the East Room where President Biden addressed the Kennedy Center honorees who included George Clooney, the Irish rock band U2, Grammy winner Gladys Knight, composer Tania León and singer-songwriter Amy Grant. 

White House pool reporters covering the ceremony sought to question Hunter Biden about release of the so-called “Twitter Files” and the impending Republican investigations of his foreign business dealings, detailed by The Post’s reporting in 2020. 

 

https://nypost.com/2022/12/05/hunter-biden-mum-on-twitter-revelations-about-the-posts-laptop-expose/

[Pattaya Spotter]

I wonder how may people were banned (or shadow banned) from the internet and social media for saying just this...oh well, mission accomplished and a semi-sentient octogenarian and his woke minions was placed in the White House.

[ozimoron]

MAGA Republicans’ Hunter Biden obsession underscores a 'deep psychological need'

 

Republicans who are obsessed with Hunter Biden, Charen writes, have “provided succor and support” to a former president “who has encouraged political violence since his early rallies in 2015, has stoked hatred of minorities through lies, has used his office for personal gain in the most flagrant fashion, has surrounded himself with criminals and con men, has committed human rights violations against would-be immigrants by separating children from their parents, has pardoned war criminals, has cost the lives of tens of thousands of COVID patients by discounting the virus and peddling quack cures, has revived racism in public discourse, and attempted a violent coup d’état.”

 

“They know it,” Charen writes. “It gnaws at them. That’s why the Hunter Biden story is their heart’s desire. But here’s something else they need to meditate on: Even if everything they’re alleging about Joe Biden were true — even if he did pull strings to help his son and even profited unjustly thereby — it still wouldn’t amount to a fraction of what Trump did.”

 

https://www.rawstory.com/maga-republicans-hunter-biden-obsession-underscores-a-deep-psychological-need-former-reagan-speechwriter/

 

 

[ozimoron]

It was last week that Elon Musk dangled the arrival of a promised multiday blitz of internal company documents, a stunt he pumped up to his 120 million followers — starting with the backstory on the company’s late-2020 decision to block users from sharing coverage of Hunter Biden’s leaked laptop files.

The first episode came on Friday night, in a 40-tweet thread from journalist Matt Taibbi, who had been provided some of the company’s internal files and emails.

Five days later, for all Musk’s promotion and drum-rolling, there have been no further releases — just a freewheeling online chat Saturday night that featured a cast of colorful personalities talking about free speech.

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/08/twitter-files-hunter-biden-laptop-00072919

[thaibeachlovers]

On 12/6/2022 at 4:11 PM, Credo said:

Much of the reason behind not allowing material from the laptop was because it violated the policy on nudity.  What was disallowed and censored were pictures of possible drug use and nudity.   

 

WOW. That's some deflection, LOL.

Ignore the corruption and make it about nudity.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 12/6/2022 at 9:25 PM, Pattaya Spotter said:

I wonder how may people were banned (or shadow banned) from the internet and social media for saying just this...oh well, mission accomplished and a semi-sentient octogenarian and his woke minions was placed in the White House.

Could this be Biden's "tapes" moment? Nixon's goose was cooked when the "tapes" existence became public knowledge.

One can only hope.

[Chomper Higgot]

On 12/6/2022 at 3:25 PM, Pattaya Spotter said:

I wonder how may people were banned (or shadow banned) from the internet and social media for saying just this...oh well, mission accomplished and a semi-sentient octogenarian and his woke minions was placed in the White House.

You can wonder all you like, your ‘wondering’ doesn’t constitute facts.

[Chomper Higgot]

On 12/6/2022 at 12:21 PM, metisdead said:

FBI warned Twitter during ‘weekly’ meetings of Hunter Biden ‘hack-and-leak operation’ before censoring The Post

 

The FBI warned Twitter during “weekly” meetings before the 2020 election to expect “hack-and-leak operations’’ by “state actors” involving Hunter Biden, and “likely” in October, according to a sworn declaration by Twitter’s former head of site integrity, Yoel Roth. 

The warnings were so specific that Twitter immediately censored The Post’s scoop about Hunter Biden’s laptop on Oct. 14, 2020, citing its “hacked materials” policy, a move described on Saturday as “election interference” by Twitter’s new owner, Elon Musk. 

The extraordinary revelation for the first time lays bare how the FBI was involved in pre-bunking the story of the laptop, which had been in the bureau’s possession for almost a year. 

 

https://nypost.com/2022/12/04/fbi-warned-twitter-of-hunter-biden-hack-before-censoring-the-post/

“The FBI warned Twitter during “weekly” meetings before the 2020 election to expect “hack-and-leak operations’’ by “state actors” involving Hunter Biden, and “likely” in October, according to a sworn declaration by Twitter’s former head of site integrity, Yoel Roth.”

 

Oh look, sworn testimony of foreign government interference in the 2020 election.

 

 

 

 

Edited December 9, 2022 by Chomper Higgot

[ozimoron]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

WOW. That's some deflection, LOL.

Ignore the corruption and make it about nudity.

What corruption? There is nothing but innuendo and a single vague reference to "the big guy". If corruption is convicted then so be it. Until then it's just the usual far right wing trash talk.

[ozimoron]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Could this be Biden's "tapes" moment? Nixon's goose was cooked when the "tapes" existence became public knowledge.

One can only hope.

Hoping that H Biden committed a crime? LOL. You drank too much koolaide.

[Saanim]

On 12/6/2022 at 10:11 AM, Credo said:

Much of the reason behind not allowing material from the laptop was because it violated the policy on nudity.  What was disallowed and censored were pictures of possible drug use and nudity.   

 

What a heart-breaking the worry of the responsible officials that the nudity will hurt pure population more than the shady business disclosure...

[Eric Loh]

10 minutes ago, Saanim said:

What a heart-breaking the worry of the responsible officials that the nudity will hurt pure population more than the shady business disclosure...

Difference being the nudity and drug use are prima facie evidence for censorship while shady business has no prima facie evidence.

[placeholder]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

What corruption? There is nothing but innuendo and a single vague reference to "the big guy". If corruption is convicted then so be it. Until then it's just the usual far right wing trash talk.

Actually, at one point Hunter Biden did say he approached "the chairman" about joining in the business dealings with China. The reply was an emphatic NO.

[SunnyinBangrak]

On 12/6/2022 at 6:24 AM, Credo said:

I suspect 'the big guy' was the most important person in his life, and that would have been his drug dealer.  That's also who probably got the bulk of any money he laid his hands on.  

 

You know that is a false statement. Now, let's try again. Who is "the big guy" that would have his 10% held by Hunter. Answering this simple question highlights the sheer dishonesty in play from the last few posters who are still acting like the laptop is the "Russian disinformation" they falsely claimed it was.

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

You know that is a false statement. Now, let's try again. Who is "the big guy" that would have his 10% held by Hunter. Answering this simple question highlights the sheer dishonesty in play from the last few posters who are still acting like the laptop is the "Russian disinformation" they falsely claimed it was.

Your link to support your claim that "the big guy" was Joe Biden is where?

[SunnyinBangrak]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Your link to support your claim that "the big guy" was Joe Biden is where?

WHo could it be? This mysterious person that was making Jim Biden, Hunter Biden and Valerie Biden very rich in countries where vice President Biden held influence. Do you agree that it was his "drug dealer" as Credo claimed? 

 There is a good reason the left falsely claimed without evidence that this laptop was "Russian Disinformation". 

[SunnyinBangrak]

7 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Your link to support your claim that "the big guy" was Joe Biden is where?

"Bobulinski has also identified Joe Biden as “the big guy” referenced in emails related to the Chinese deal that were uncovered on the first son’s infamous abandoned laptop, which were revealed by The Post in October 2020.

“The good news is Congressman [James] Comer and Congressman [Jim] Jordan have troves of documents that will corroborate all this — but 1,000%, Joe Biden is ‘the big guy,’” Bobulinski said Thursday."

https://nypost.com/2022/11/18/ex-hunter-biden-biz-partner-hails-gop-probe-into-first-sons-deals/

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

"Bobulinski has also identified Joe Biden as “the big guy” referenced in emails related to the Chinese deal that were uncovered on the first son’s infamous abandoned laptop, which were revealed by The Post in October 2020.

“The good news is Congressman [James] Comer and Congressman [Jim] Jordan have troves of documents that will corroborate all this — but 1,000%, Joe Biden is ‘the big guy,’” Bobulinski said Thursday."

https://nypost.com/2022/11/18/ex-hunter-biden-biz-partner-hails-gop-probe-into-first-sons-deals/

Just unsupported right wing talking points from a newspaper with a low reputation for reliability and truth. Why can't you produce evidence, not opinion? You just come across as a wing nut when you can't debate in good faith.

[ozimoron]

5 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

WHo could it be? This mysterious person that was making Jim Biden, Hunter Biden and Valerie Biden very rich in countries where vice President Biden held influence. Do you agree that it was his "drug dealer" as Credo claimed? 

 There is a good reason the left falsely claimed without evidence that this laptop was "Russian Disinformation". 

Who could it be is baseless speculation until proved. Who else could santa be except a person who lives at the north pole?

[Hanaguma]

And amazingly the 51 so-called 'intelligence experts', including former CIA directors, who called this a Russian disinformation campaign have suffered no consequences.  It was not the Russians. It was not hacked. 

 

From what I have read, Bari Weiss is now compiling the second part of the story. Matt Taibbi has been suffering for his honesty for a week now, being castigated by the bleating sheep of the MSM. So many of whom for some reason use the same attacks and tactics. "Doing PR for the world's richest man" was the accepted meme, and parroted by dozens of eager hacks.

[SunnyinBangrak]

7 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Who could it be is baseless speculation until proved. Who else could santa be except a person who lives at the north pole?

So the computer data, multiple other devices from other people also corroborating the texts and email chains, plus witness corroboration, plus no denial from Joe Biden is all "baseless speculation". I see. If only we had a witness that thought they overheard half a phone conversation of someone on the opposite side of their table in a busy restaurant half way around the world to say what they think they heard - the gold standard of evidence.

Edited December 9, 2022 by SunnyinBangrak

[ozimoron]

Just now, SunnyinBangrak said:

So the computer data, multiple other devices from other people also corroborating the texts and email chains, plus witness corroboration, plus no denial from Joe Biden is all nonsense. I see. If only we had a witness that thought they overheard half a phone conversation of someone on the opposite side of their table in a busy restaurant half way around the world to say what they think they heard - the gold standard of evidence.

I'd prefer to wait and see just why the FBI haven't pressed charges and why Musk has not proceeded with his big reveal. I think that's the reasonable approach rather than sharpening the pitchforks.

[Saanim]

2 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Hoping that H Biden committed a crime? LOL. You drank too much koolaide.

Not to see anything wrong by the laptop disclosure? One needs to drink something very strong, getting blind, getting deaf... 

[riclag]

“The extraordinary revelation for the first time lays bare how the FBI was involved in pre-bunking the story of the laptop, which had been in the bureau’s possession for almost a year”. 

 

https://nypost.com/2022/12/04/fbi-warned-twitter-of-hunter-biden-hack-before-censoring-the-post/

 

 

which reminds me 

The intel agencies have six ways to Sunday to get back at you , part of the contexts was mentioned by 1 of the members of the Intel committees gang of 8 ,in a interview a few years ago. 

Me thinks the gop are gonna have much political fodder come after the new year, rightfully so ! Imop