THAIPHUKET Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Group of 15, touring the North. All got COVID, unpleasant but tour continued for 2 weeks. I hear a fourth injection doesn't protect much. Any experience? I'd wish the government would release its stock of NOVAVAX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted November 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2022 Yeah, I had 4 injections then I got covid. Fortunately the vaccine protected me from getting really ill. 3 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lucky Bones Posted November 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2022 So I guess the first 3 jabs worked as you continued to fight another day. Now onward to your 4th, 5th & 6th jabs.???????? 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Screaming Posted November 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2022 "The definition of insanity is repeating the same mistakes over and over again and expecting different results." Such the case of Covid vaccinations. 4 2 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scubascuba3 Posted November 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2022 I thought everyone knew that the vaccines don't stop you catching covid but reduces the severity 7 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FritsSikkink Posted November 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2022 29 minutes ago, Screaming said: "The definition of insanity is repeating the same mistakes over and over again and expecting different results." Such the case of Covid vaccinations. Vaccinations will reduce the effect of covid on the body, not protect it from getting it. That you don't know that after 2 years of information is pretty sad. 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eleftheros Posted November 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2022 31 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: I thought everyone knew that the vaccines don't stop you catching covid but reduces the severity Everyone knows that the 'vaccines' don't stop you catching Covid. But for any particular individual to claim that being vaccinated definitely stopped them getting sicker from a Covid infection than they would otherwise have been is evidence-free nonsense. How can anyone possibly know that the vaccinations helped them in their particular case? It makes no sense, yet people are claiming this the whole time. I can admire their loyalty to the government cause, but not their logic. 8 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NoDisplayName Posted November 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, THAIPHUKET said: Group of 15, touring the North. All got COVID, unpleasant but tour continued for 2 weeks. I hear a fourth injection doesn't protect much. Any experience? I'd wish the government would release its stock of NOVAVAX Excellent news! The vaccines work. Fifteen people caught Covid, with ZERO deaths. And if these are "bikers," I'll assume motorcycle riders and visualize a group of Harley riders, not necessarily the best of physical specimens. And in all fifteen cases, the effects of Covid were reduced enough that they all could continue their tour. It's good to follow the science. Edited November 22, 2022 by NoDisplayName 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BigStar Posted November 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Eleftheros said: How can anyone possibly know that the vaccinations helped them in their particular case? Can't, obviously. It's the hope, and survivor's bias. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post andersonat Posted November 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, BigStar said: Can't, obviously. It's the hope, and survivor's bias. - On an *individual* basis, you are correct. However, the Epidemiologists have collected and analysed the Covid-Patient statistics, and the statistics say that, in general, Vaccinated-Sufferers have lighter symptoms, compared to Unvaccinated-Sufferers. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 16 minutes ago, Eleftheros said: Everyone knows that the 'vaccines' don't stop you catching Covid. But for any particular individual to claim that being vaccinated definitely stopped them getting sicker from a Covid infection than they would otherwise have been is evidence-free nonsense. How can anyone possibly know that the vaccinations helped them in their particular case? It makes no sense, yet people are claiming this the whole time. I can admire their loyalty to the government cause, but not their logic. You could say the same for flu vaccines, but not believing anything or suspicious of everything soon goes to conspiracy theories 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoguy21 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 2 hours ago, ozimoron said: Yeah, I had 4 injections then I got covid. Fortunately the vaccine protected me from getting really ill. That is all a vaccine will do; reduce the effect of the virus, it wont stop you getting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted November 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said: That is all a vaccine will do; reduce the effect of the virus, it wont stop you getting it. Nobody ever said it would. That said, it does reduce the chances significantly. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eleftheros Posted November 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: You could say the same for flu vaccines, but not believing anything or suspicious of everything soon goes to conspiracy theories Yes, extreme thinking in any direction leads to poor outcomes. Which is why I get tired of reading nonsense like "I've had six Covid jabs, got Covid last week, not feeling too bad. Thank heaven I got vaccinated it would have been much much worse!!!!" 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted November 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Eleftheros said: Yes, extreme thinking in any direction leads to poor outcomes. Which is why I get tired of reading nonsense like "I've had six Covid jabs, got Covid last week, not feeling too bad. Thank heaven I got vaccinated it would have been much much worse!!!!" Your "extreme thinking" is actually medical science. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleftheros Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Just now, ozimoron said: Your "extreme thinking" is actually medical science. No, it's illogical nonsense. Even if you accept that overall, vaccination on average reduces the severity of Covid infection in the population, that doesn't mean it works equally for everyone in every individual case, because people are individual and different. It is logical fallacy in action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Just now, Eleftheros said: No, it's illogical nonsense. Even if you accept that overall, vaccination on average reduces the severity of Covid infection in the population, that doesn't mean it works equally for everyone in every individual case, because people are individual and different. It is logical fallacy in action. Again, an allegation of a claim that was never made. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleftheros Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 minute ago, ozimoron said: Again, an allegation of a claim that was never made. Except for the poster who recently wrote: "Yeah, I had 4 injections then I got covid. Fortunately the vaccine protected me from getting really ill." That's exactly the claim that is being made. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Just now, Eleftheros said: Except for the poster who recently wrote: "Yeah, I had 4 injections then I got covid. Fortunately the vaccine protected me from getting really ill." That's exactly the claim that is being made. No it isn't. Nothing there about the vaccine affecting different people differently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoguy21 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 17 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Nobody ever said it would. That said, it does reduce the chances significantly. Possibly not I have not seen any evidence to support that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eleftheros Posted November 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2022 Just now, ozimoron said: No it isn't. Nothing there about the vaccine affecting different people differently. The claim was being made that it is a given that "vaccination equalled protection from severe illness." in a particular individual case. That is illogical nonsense, even if you accept that overall and on average vaccinations do work to reduce severe illness. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 17 minutes ago, Eleftheros said: Yes, extreme thinking in any direction leads to poor outcomes. Which is why I get tired of reading nonsense like "I've had six Covid jabs, got Covid last week, not feeling too bad. Thank heaven I got vaccinated it would have been much much worse!!!!" "I've had six Covid jabs, got Covid last week, not feeling too bad. Thank heaven I got vaccinated it would have been much much worse!!!!" Can't find that anywhere on this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Just now, Photoguy21 said: Possibly not I have not seen any evidence to support that. That's because you're probably not looking for that data. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-02328-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Predictably, this thread has already gone off the rails. With the current strains in particular, vaccines do nto prevent infection just reduce risk of severe infection. Thread closed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokHank Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said: Vaccinations will reduce the effect of covid on the body, not protect it from getting it. That you don't know that after 2 years of information is pretty sad. Vaccines Stop the Transmission of COVID.mp4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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