Biker group, all 3x protected got COVID

[THAIPHUKET]

Group of 15, touring the North.

All got COVID, unpleasant but tour continued for 2 weeks.

I hear a fourth injection doesn't protect much.  Any experience?

 

I'd wish the government would release its stock of NOVAVAX

 

[ozimoron]

Yeah, I had 4 injections then I got covid. Fortunately the vaccine protected me from getting really ill.

[Lucky Bones]

So I guess the first 3 jabs worked as you continued to fight another day.

Now onward to your 4th, 5th & 6th jabs.????????

[Screaming]

"The definition of insanity is repeating the same mistakes over and over again and expecting different results." Such the case of Covid vaccinations.

[scubascuba3]

I thought everyone knew that the vaccines don't stop you catching covid but reduces the severity

[FritsSikkink]

29 minutes ago, Screaming said:

"The definition of insanity is repeating the same mistakes over and over again and expecting different results." Such the case of Covid vaccinations.

Vaccinations will reduce the effect of covid on the body, not protect it from getting it. That you don't know that after 2 years of information is pretty sad. 

[Eleftheros]

31 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

I thought everyone knew that the vaccines don't stop you catching covid but reduces the severity

Everyone knows that the 'vaccines' don't stop you catching Covid.

 

But for any particular individual to claim that being vaccinated definitely stopped them getting sicker from a Covid infection than they would otherwise have been is evidence-free nonsense.

 

How can anyone possibly know that the vaccinations helped them in their particular case? It makes no sense, yet people are claiming this the whole time.

 

I can admire their loyalty to the government cause, but not their logic.

[NoDisplayName]

2 hours ago, THAIPHUKET said:

Group of 15, touring the North.

All got COVID, unpleasant but tour continued for 2 weeks.

I hear a fourth injection doesn't protect much.  Any experience?

 

I'd wish the government would release its stock of NOVAVAX

 

Excellent news!  The vaccines work.

 

Fifteen people caught Covid, with ZERO deaths.

 

And if these are "bikers," I'll assume motorcycle riders and visualize a group of Harley riders, not necessarily the best of physical specimens.

 

And in all fifteen cases, the effects of Covid were reduced enough that they all could continue their tour.

 

It's good to follow the science.

[BigStar]

2 minutes ago, Eleftheros said:

How can anyone possibly know that the vaccinations helped them in their particular case?

Can't, obviously. It's the hope, and survivor's bias.

[andersonat]

3 minutes ago, BigStar said:

Can't, obviously. It's the hope, and survivor's bias.

  -  On an *individual* basis, you are correct.

However, the Epidemiologists have collected and analysed the Covid-Patient statistics, and the statistics say that, in general, Vaccinated-Sufferers have lighter symptoms, compared to Unvaccinated-Sufferers.

 

[scubascuba3]

16 minutes ago, Eleftheros said:

Everyone knows that the 'vaccines' don't stop you catching Covid.

 

But for any particular individual to claim that being vaccinated definitely stopped them getting sicker from a Covid infection than they would otherwise have been is evidence-free nonsense.

 

How can anyone possibly know that the vaccinations helped them in their particular case? It makes no sense, yet people are claiming this the whole time.

 

I can admire their loyalty to the government cause, but not their logic.

You could say the same for flu vaccines, but not believing anything or suspicious of everything soon goes to conspiracy theories

[Photoguy21]

2 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Yeah, I had 4 injections then I got covid. Fortunately the vaccine protected me from getting really ill.

That is all a vaccine will do; reduce the effect of the virus, it wont stop you getting it.

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

That is all a vaccine will do; reduce the effect of the virus, it wont stop you getting it.

Nobody ever said it would. That said, it does reduce the chances significantly.

[Eleftheros]

8 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

You could say the same for flu vaccines, but not believing anything or suspicious of everything soon goes to conspiracy theories

Yes, extreme thinking in any direction leads to poor outcomes.

 

Which is why I get tired of reading nonsense like "I've had six Covid jabs, got Covid last week, not feeling too bad. Thank heaven I got vaccinated it would have been much much worse!!!!"

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Eleftheros said:

Yes, extreme thinking in any direction leads to poor outcomes.

 

Which is why I get tired of reading nonsense like "I've had six Covid jabs, got Covid last week, not feeling too bad. Thank heaven I got vaccinated it would have been much much worse!!!!"

Your "extreme thinking" is actually medical science.

[Eleftheros]

Just now, ozimoron said:

Your "extreme thinking" is actually medical science.

No, it's illogical nonsense.

 

Even if you accept that overall, vaccination on average reduces the severity of Covid infection in the population, that doesn't mean it works equally for everyone in every individual case, because people are individual and different.

 

It is logical fallacy in action.

[ozimoron]

Just now, Eleftheros said:

No, it's illogical nonsense.

 

Even if you accept that overall, vaccination on average reduces the severity of Covid infection in the population, that doesn't mean it works equally for everyone in every individual case, because people are individual and different.

 

It is logical fallacy in action.

Again, an allegation of a claim that was never made.

[Eleftheros]

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

Again, an allegation of a claim that was never made.

Except for the poster who recently wrote: "Yeah, I had 4 injections then I got covid. Fortunately the vaccine protected me from getting really ill."

 

That's exactly the claim that is being made.

[ozimoron]

Just now, Eleftheros said:

Except for the poster who recently wrote: "Yeah, I had 4 injections then I got covid. Fortunately the vaccine protected me from getting really ill."

 

That's exactly the claim that is being made.

No it isn't. Nothing there about the vaccine affecting different people differently.

[Photoguy21]

17 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Nobody ever said it would. That said, it does reduce the chances significantly.

Possibly not I have not seen any evidence to support that.

[Eleftheros]

Just now, ozimoron said:

No it isn't. Nothing there about the vaccine affecting different people differently.

The claim was being made that it is a given that "vaccination equalled protection from severe illness." in a particular individual case.

 

That is illogical nonsense, even if you accept that overall and on average vaccinations do work to reduce severe illness.

[Bkk Brian]

17 minutes ago, Eleftheros said:

Yes, extreme thinking in any direction leads to poor outcomes.

 

Which is why I get tired of reading nonsense like "I've had six Covid jabs, got Covid last week, not feeling too bad. Thank heaven I got vaccinated it would have been much much worse!!!!"

"I've had six Covid jabs, got Covid last week, not feeling too bad. Thank heaven I got vaccinated it would have been much much worse!!!!"

 

Can't find that anywhere on this thread?

[ozimoron]

Just now, Photoguy21 said:

Possibly not I have not seen any evidence to support that.

That's because you're probably not looking for that data.

 

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-02328-0

[Sheryl]

Predictably, this thread has already gone off the rails.

 

With the current strains in particular, vaccines do nto prevent infection just reduce risk of severe infection.

 

Thread closed.

[BangkokHank]

1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said:

Vaccinations will reduce the effect of covid on the body, not protect it from getting it. That you don't know that after 2 years of information is pretty sad.