Thailand’s COVID death toll rises, hospitalisations fall during past week

[snoop1130]

 

Deaths from COVID-19 between November 27th and December 3rd surged to 105, or an average of 15 cases a day, from the previous week’s 74 deaths, according to the COVID-19 Information Centre.

 

4,284 cases were admitted to hospital between November 27th and December 3rd, compared to 4,914 cases a week earlier.

 

To date this year, 2,488,093 COVID-19 infections have been recorded, of which 11,587 have died.

 

Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thailands-covid-death-toll-rises-hospitalisations-fall-during-past-week/

 

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[ikke1959]

Maybe a study in several provinces without masks should maybe clear that there is no danger anymore, instead of keeping the fear in the public. Masks don't prevent against Covid. And deaths .. people will die everyday, more daily in traffic in Thailand, without that is being solved, HIV and childprotection and useiess murders are more concerning than a few deaths 

[alyx]

These numbers are highly arbitrary if not controversial

 

I would be more interested in whether Covid is the cause of death or is among other illnesses of the deceased

 

The same estimation does not apply to AIDS as people do not die of AIDS but rather from an illness triggered by the loss of the body's immunity

 

[Eleftheros]

It's important to keep these numbers coming.

 

Otherwise, what would happen to all those make-work jobs at the Covid-19 Information Centre?

[IAMHERE]

There are numbers and then there are Thai numbers. 

[jacko45k]

21 minutes ago, Eleftheros said:

It's important to keep these numbers coming.

 

Otherwise, what would happen to all those make-work jobs at the Covid-19 Information Centre?

Yes... it would seem much wiser than not knowing the situation, burying heads in the sand with behinds up in the air and be completely ignorant of what is happening, be it good or bad, in relation to Covid infections and deaths!

 

Refusing the public their right to truth and information we can leave to China and Russia!

[Eleftheros]

3 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Yes... it would seem much wiser than not knowing the situation, burying heads in the sand with behinds up in the air and be completely ignorant of what is happening, be it good or bad, in relation to Covid infections and deaths!

 

Refusing the public their right to truth and information we can leave to China and Russia!

I don't mind them publishing Covid information all the time, but by the same token the government should also be publishing regular data about tuberculosis, HIV, dengue, influenza, overall excess mortality, suicides and murders, which are affecting the Thai population much more than Covid at this  point.

 

Where is the RSV Information Centre? Are we in China or Russia?

[jacko45k]

55 minutes ago, Eleftheros said:

I don't mind them publishing Covid information all the time, but by the same token the government should also be publishing regular data about tuberculosis, HIV, dengue, influenza, overall excess mortality, suicides and murders, which are affecting the Thai population much more than Covid at this  point.

 

Where is the RSV Information Centre? Are we in China or Russia?

I believe such figures are available too... they don't just get pulled out of a  hat. 

[roquefort]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

I believe such figures are available too... they don't just get pulled out of a  hat. 

They serve no purpose in controlling the population. Covid is the bogeyman which allow them to keep people in fear, so the hysteria has to be maintained. Meanwhile, numbers of deaths of motorbike riders wearing a Covid mask but no helmet are not reported.

[garrya]

15 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

Maybe a study in several provinces without masks should maybe clear that there is no danger anymore, instead of keeping the fear in the public. Masks don't prevent against Covid. And deaths .. people will die everyday, more daily in traffic in Thailand, without that is being solved, HIV and childprotection and useiess murders are more concerning than a few deaths 

Cancer cases are crazy high and the age of cancer patients has gone down a lot this past year. No one cares.  What could be the cause? Probably the anti-vaxxers. ????????????

Would rather get convid yearly than cancer once in life. 

 

On another note, some Bangokian friends of missus came to visit us

They all got their multiple shots, wear masks religiously, avoid crowded places, bars and admittedly, got convid multiple times even after the magic jabs. 

They still religiously believe in "science" presented by "experts". ????????

I go out multiple times a week visiting packed restaurants, bars, pubs where literally no one wears masks, and they just don't want to drop dead .....????????

[roquefort]

33 minutes ago, garrya said:

Cancer cases are crazy high and the age of cancer patients has gone down a lot this past year. No one cares.  What could be the cause? Probably the anti-vaxxers. ????????????

 

The cause is that they succeeded so well in scaring the s**t out of people that no-one went to hospital for screening or cancer treatment for two years. Guess what, cancer cases are exploding.

[Eleftheros]

49 minutes ago, roquefort said:

The cause is that they succeeded so well in scaring the s**t out of people that no-one went to hospital for screening or cancer treatment for two years. Guess what, cancer cases are exploding.

Two of the UK's worst health apparatchiks, Chris Whitty and Patrick Vallance, the natural heirs to Trofim Lysenko, have just warned that the UK faces a "prolonged period of excess deaths" due to lockdowns.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/whitty-warns-of-high-death-rates-due-to-lockdown-treatment-delays-vtx0v6z7j

 

Not just cancer, but cardiovascular as well. Plus, RSV cases are now on the point of overwhelming hospital systems in Germany and the UK. The main victims are young children.

[digger70]

Are they sure that they are dead's from covid and not from an other flu/illness

[garrya]

17 minutes ago, digger70 said:

Are they sure that they are dead's from covid and not from an other flu/illness

Some countries used to track if the deceased had other underlying conditions and interestingly, the majority had various comorbidities. 

 

However, it's inconvenient to make it public as it could raise many interesting questions.

[ikke1959]

15 deaths a day... wait a few weeks when the end of the year holiday is coming... Than the deaths will go up...Please stop with making news with Covid deaths... Explain who died and why because Covid doesn't lill, but if you are suffering of an illness the infection can trigger it to get more ill and die.....So old people with underlying diseases are vulnerable, but everyone dies one day...Good research would stop this nonsense of daily Covid deaths 

[garrya]

2 hours ago, roquefort said:

The cause is that they succeeded so well in scaring the s**t out of people that no-one went to hospital for screening or cancer treatment for two years. Guess what, cancer cases are exploding.

This doesn't explain why so many young people have developed cancer in the past year.

Nurse friend claims that there have been a never seen number of young people diagnosed with cancer during the past year. What has changed? 

????

[roquefort]

31 minutes ago, garrya said:

This doesn't explain why so many young people have developed cancer in the past year.

Nurse friend claims that there have been a never seen number of young people diagnosed with cancer during the past year. What has changed? 

????

There may be other reasons for younger people developing cancer (possibly the v-word?). But there's no doubt  the major factor in the huge increase in cancer across the board is the lack of early screening and diagnosis. My wife got caught in this paranoia and is now suffering the consequences.

[garrya]

4 minutes ago, roquefort said:

There may be other reasons for younger people developing cancer (possibly the v-word?). But there's no doubt  the major factor in the huge increase in cancer across the board is the lack of early screening and diagnosis. My wife got caught in this paranoia and is now suffering the consequences.

Young people don't usually have cancer and never participate in cancer screenings. 

Cancer is almost unseen in the youth. 

The answer is fairly obvious. 

[jacko45k]

6 hours ago, roquefort said:

They serve no purpose in controlling the population. Covid is the bogeyman which allow them to keep people in fear, so the hysteria has to be maintained. Meanwhile, numbers of deaths of motorbike riders wearing a Covid mask but no helmet are not reported.

It is sad you think this way, Sadder than some appreciate it.....

And to bring helmet wearing on motorcycles into it, that tired old irrelevant distraction, is super laughable.  Perhaps 6.5 million motorcyclists have died wearing masks but no helmet in  Thailand alone?

[realfunster]

7 hours ago, garrya said:

Young people don't usually have cancer and never participate in cancer screenings. 

Cancer is almost unseen in the youth. 

The answer is fairly obvious. 

Do you have any credible statistics supporting this increase in cancer in kids or are we supposed to discuss this proposition based on anecdotes from your nurse friend ?

[garrya]

7 minutes ago, realfunster said:

Do you have any credible statistics supporting this increase in cancer in kids or are we supposed to discuss this proposition based on anecdotes from your nurse friend ?

No need to believe ordinary people. Better go with narratives. 

Well done mate 

[Stargeezr]

COVID, with its variants have been around about 3 years, and have killed at least 6.4 million people

so far. People are also dying of countless other reasons as well as suicides, but that is a bit different now is it not?

  KN95 masks and N95 masks do protect you from many things as well as airborne diseases.

 Pollution for example, and colds and flues, but some posters are so against masks that they will say

anything to keep from having to wear them. For those people grow up. The vaccines may not protect

us from getting COVID, but at least I did not die, when I contracted the Omicron variant and was sick for 10 days.

  Life will go on , thankfully with most countries not having lock downs. Carry on People.

[SunsetT]

20 hours ago, garrya said:

Nurse friend claims that there have been a never seen number of young people

Where?

[Bill Dauterive]

How many died this year from airpollution due to the illegal burnings? WHatever. The Thai are ignorant fools.

Edited December 7, 2022 by Bill Dauterive

[realfunster]

23 hours ago, garrya said:

No need to believe ordinary people. Better go with narratives. 

Well done mate 

My good friend in the UK is an oncology consultant with 25 years practice. Apart from a backlog of procedures/care and delayed diagnoses due to hospital services disruption with COVID, he tells me all is standard at the moment, apart from the fact he is working his <deleted> off.
 

So, what to do ?  We have 2 ordinary people involved in primary health care giving different opinions ? I personally wouldn’t feel comfortable to build a position based on the anecdotal evidence of 1 or 2 people, as that seems statistically unreasonable. I wonder how we can get to the bottom of it and establish the facts on cancer cases?

 

Or should we just follow your “anti mainstream narrative”, which ironically, by definition, is just a “narrative” in itself…

 

 

Edited December 7, 2022 by realfunster
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[jacko45k]

10 hours ago, Bill Dauterive said:

How many died this year from airpollution due to the illegal burnings? WHatever. The Thai are ignorant fools.

What has that got to do with it?