webfact Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Deputy Prime Minister/Palang Pracharath Party leader Prawit Wongsuwan, left, and former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, right. Photo: Thai Rath Analysis By Out-Crowd THE LONG-COVETED DESIGN OF de facto Pheu Thai Party boss Thaksin Shinawatra to return home after years in self-exile overseas alongside his sister Yingluck Shinawatra, both having been previously deposed as prime ministers in separate coups, may entirely fall through without help from kingmaker Prawit Wongsuwan. Thaksin and Yingluck who have been reportedly residing in Dubai following the 2006 and 2014 coups which had overthrown them as head of an elected government respectively could not come back home after a general election expected early next year only if Prawit, top leader of the ruling Palang Pracharath Party and a deputy prime minister, did nothing to help make their shared dream come true, according to political observers. Thaksin has time and again lamented the event in which he was deprived of power in the 2006 coup orchestrated by the likes of the then-army chief Sonthi Boonyaratkalin, followed by the 2014 coup orchestrated by the then-army chief Prayut Chan-o-cha to depose the woman prime minister. More often than not Thaksin has publicly repeated his much-heralded prediction of the Pheu Thai, a resurrection of the dissolved Thai Rak Thai Party and People’s Power Party, scoring a landslide victory in the nationwide election which could probably pave way for his planned homecoming so that, he said, he could literally babysit seven grandchildren. Full story: https://thainewsroom.com/2022/12/05/analysis-thaksins-homecoming-bid-may-fall-through-without-help-from-kingmaker/ -- © Copyright THAI NEWSROOM 2022-12-06 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. Monthly car subscription with first-class insurance, 24x7 assistance and more in one price - click here to find out more! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pacovl46 Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2022 Let him come home, so he can go to prison and rot there until the end of his days to set an example!!! 7 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phnom Penh Trader Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2022 Bring Thaksin and Yingluck home NOW! 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 I was going g to ask if the statute of limitations had run out on the alleged crimes? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Bring Red Bull home too! ???? Get him a new watch that should do it! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinnieK Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 If indeed they allow him to return, the 'deal' will be to stay away from politics, or else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post edwinchester Posted December 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2022 3 hours ago, pacovl46 said: Let him come home, so he can go to prison and rot there until the end of his days to set an example!!! Only fair if the coup makers and their string pullers are in the adjacent cells wouldn't you agree? 7 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdey Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 I too am interested to know if there is a statute of limitations on any of the charges. Yingluck was charged with transferring an official. Compare with Boss killing a policeman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gottfrid Posted December 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2022 Yesterday one of the Watchmen. Today, Kingmaker! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post inactiveposter Posted December 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2022 I’m not a legal scholar, but doesn’t statute of limitations refer to chargeable crimes, not convictions? Thaksin was convicted so there’s no clock involved. Sentence would begin on his return unless some other intervention occurs. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 8 hours ago, webfact said: he said, he could literally babysit seven grandchildren. Are there not flights from Bkk to Dubai? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billd766 Posted December 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2022 8 hours ago, pacovl46 said: Let him come home, so he can go to prison and rot there until the end of his days to set an example!!! An example to what? He was illegally overthrown by a military coup who then became the judge and jury of what they had charged him with. The same happened to his sister Yingluck. To quote the Christian bible https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/let_him_who_is_without_sin_cast_the_first_stone Etymology An allusion to an utterance of Jesus in John 8:7, viz. “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.”[1] Phrase let him who is without sin cast the first stone Only those who are faultless have the right to pass judgment upon others (implying that no one is faultless and that, therefore, no one has such a right to pass judgment). And any military coup is illegal. 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 A post with a trolling meme has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kingstonkid Posted December 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2022 There is little chance of that happening. Remember that wanting to bring back brothr was one of the reasons that Yingluck got the boot. There really is no reason for him or her to come back. The family businesses are doing well and the money is flowing. As a convicted criminal They can not run for government. Thaksin is nothing more than a distraction. This country needs to move on from the old guard and bring in a new one. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 12 hours ago, Phnom Penh Trader said: Bring Thaksin and Yingluck home NOW! Why? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgMech Cowboy Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 12 hours ago, wombat said: I was going g to ask if the statute of limitations had run out on the alleged crimes? Tried and convicted. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgMech Cowboy Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 13 hours ago, Phnom Penh Trader said: Bring Thaksin and Yingluck home NOW! 1 hour ago, scorecard said: Why? Exactly!! Come home, serve your sentences... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phnom Penh Trader Posted December 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, AgMech Cowboy said: Exactly!! Come home, serve your sentences... You mean on the trumped-up charges by the current Military Junta that no-one wants in power? Why? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffersLos Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Lock up both sides and start afresh, with that young Bangkok guy that was was banned/arrested because people were voting for him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pacovl46 Posted December 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2022 6 hours ago, billd766 said: An example to what? He was illegally overthrown by a military coup who then became the judge and jury of what they had charged him with. The same happened to his sister Yingluck. To quote the Christian bible https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/let_him_who_is_without_sin_cast_the_first_stone Etymology An allusion to an utterance of Jesus in John 8:7, viz. “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.”[1] Phrase let him who is without sin cast the first stone Only those who are faultless have the right to pass judgment upon others (implying that no one is faultless and that, therefore, no one has such a right to pass judgment). And any military coup is illegal. Why? Because he's as corrupt as they come and he needs to pay for what he did, just like everyone else! 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daveAustin Posted December 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2022 11 hours ago, edwinchester said: Only fair if the coup makers and their string pullers are in the adjacent cells wouldn't you agree? Agree 100%, or else they should button it. Never understood the abject hatred for the man and yet people are happy to have things as they are; all votes stolen. Nowt as queer as folk. 20 minutes ago, JeffersLos said: Lock up both sides and start afresh, with that young Bangkok guy that was was banned/arrested because people were voting for him. Having Thanatorn running things would certainly be the best thing for Thailand, but would upset many. He’s too straight. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pacovl46 Posted December 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2022 31 minutes ago, Phnom Penh Trader said: You mean on the trumped-up charges by the current Military Junta that no-one wants in power? Why? Trumped up charges??? He did sell AIS for 2 billion dollars and didn't pay taxes on that by gifting it first to his housekeeper, who then in turn gifted the money to his children. He also ordered a government owned plot of land in Bangkok to be sold to his wife for 100 million, which was bought by the government just a few years earlier for two or three times the price, which was illegal because family members of politicians are not allowed to buy land from the government while their family member is an active politician! The guy who was responsible for the sale notified Thaksin and told him it is illegal and if he wants the sale to go through, he needs a signed letter from Thaksin, which he gave him. These are just two examples of many. He's as corrupt as they come and he needs to pay for it! He's a typical megalomaniac who though he could do whatever he wants and even go up against the king and he paid the price, only not in full, yet! 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacovl46 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 11 hours ago, edwinchester said: Only fair if the coup makers and their string pullers are in the adjacent cells wouldn't you agree? I'm not familiar with the current situation, therefore I can't speak on that. In my opinion he needs to stand trial for what he did regardless of what someone else did or didn't do! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scorecard Posted December 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2022 45 minutes ago, JeffersLos said: Lock up both sides and start afresh, with that young Bangkok guy that was was banned/arrested because people were voting for him. Agree, in fact there's many young Thai folks who have good education, speak good english and have highly valuable experience form studying/living/working abroad. Khun Thanathorn is from an extremely wealthy successful familt. His personal values are strong small s socialism, a society taking taking care of itself, sharing, equality, equal opportunity. His values and attidudes horrify Thailands hi-so folks and run enathema to the military history and desires for military rule. All of these folks hate him and hate his values. Personally I believe he would be a very good turn arounf pm and there's plenty of folks in his party who have the same views and as a team could make major highly valuable changes to Thailand. But the military refuse to give him any chance, and take actions to ensure for no really good reasons he's sidelined, by trumped up charges etc. Sadly the loser is Thailand / all Thais. Also in the picture are numerous claims that he's a stooge for Thaksin and photos of him shaking hands with Thaksin and stories floated everywhere that he was a Thaksin supporter/proxy.Nothing could be further from the truth. Change is unfortunately and sadly not happening anytime soon. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phnom Penh Trader Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, pacovl46 said: Trumped up charges??? He did sell AIS for 2 billion dollars and didn't pay taxes on that by gifting it first to his housekeeper, who then in turn gifted the money to his children. He found a tax loophole and exploited it,ALL Billionaires do exactly the same Warren Buffett included! Edited December 6, 2022 by Phnom Penh Trader Autocorrected! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phnom Penh Trader Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Thaksin IN! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 hour ago, pacovl46 said: Why? Because he's as corrupt as they come and he needs to pay for what he did, just like everyone else! Please tell us all how many generals have been charged with treason for overthrowing any legally elected government? Then I might consider what you say about Thaksin is valid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneking Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 hour ago, daveAustin said: Agree 100%, or else they should button it. Never understood the abject hatred for the man and yet people are happy to have things as they are; all votes stolen. Nowt as queer as folk. Having Thanatorn running things would certainly be the best thing for Thailand, but would upset many. He’s too straight. They should be upset. Should be confronted. Should disappear. Should appear only in history books as the people whose selfishness imoverished Thai lives for generations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted December 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2022 20 hours ago, webfact said: could not come back home He could and can come back anytime! What Thaksin wants is to be above the law. People who are convicted criminals and who are convicted to go to jail must go to jail. That shouldn't be too difficult to understand. And what kind of article is this that doesn't even mention above fact? He is a wanted criminal, and he doesn't want to server his time in jail, that is why he is not coming back. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 10 hours ago, pacovl46 said: I'm not familiar with the current situation, therefore I can't speak on that. In my opinion he needs to stand trial for what he did regardless of what someone else did or didn't do! So you know all about events of 14 years ago but nothing about the current Govt? Just to enlighten you, in Thailand staging a coup is illegal. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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