Siam Rath reported on a woman given the ficticious name of Naen, 35, who went to social action group Sai Mai Tong Rort in northern Bangkok.

 

Naen claimed that she had been asked by a friend named Jay Ying to attend a party with several men. 

 

She agreed to go and knew that the party would involve drug taking, that had happened before without a problem.

 

But on this occasion she was given a white pill caled "Yaa Five" in Thai.

 

She swallowed that and went to the lavatory and on emerging from the restroom took another; both pills were given to her by Jay Ying.

 

After taking  a sip of beer she passed out and woke up naked next to a naked man in a hotel bedroom. 

 

She had been talking to the man at the party.

 

Naen thinks that she was drugged and raped in that it was without her knowing consent. 

 

She said she contacted her friend who said that if she has any gripe she should take it up with the man adding "he's loaded".

 

Jay Ying was contacted over the phone by the press who said the claims were all nonsense.

 

The couple had appeared close and they had gone together.

 

She denied profiting from this in anyway and said if Naen wanted to press the matter she would see her in court. 

 

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2 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

Naen thinks that she was drugged and raped in that it was without her knowing consent. 

But she knowingly swallowed the pills????

7 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

But she knowingly swallowed the pills????

excellent pro rape response. She was probably dressed a bit sexy and was asking for it too, right?

Edited January 4, 20233 yr by n00dle

9 minutes ago, n00dle said:

excellent pro rape response. She was probably dressed a bit sexy and was asking for it too, right?

People have to bear some responsibility for their actions.

Just now, giddyup said:

People have to bear some responsibility for their actions.

indeed they do.

 

So explain to me again how the fact she willingly took a pill justifies rape? 

Are you in the habit of banging unconscious women too?

 

1 minute ago, n00dle said:

indeed they do.

 

So explain to me again how the fact she willingly took a pill justifies rape? 

Are you in the habit of banging unconscious women too?

 

She deliberately put herself in a dangerous situation, surely you can grasp that. I also never said the rape was justified. 

Is there a single mention of the police in this story? Most western countries the police would already have arrested any and all in the alleged rape. Did she even report it? No excuse for sex without consent, even if high on drugs or alcohol. 

 

 

Edited January 4, 20233 yr by soi3eddie

30 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

But she knowingly swallowed the pills????

knowingly swallowing pills certainly doesn't give the right to be sexually assaulted, lifetime of nightmares, counseling, rape treatment, depression, possible suicide.....   i would think not.  

13 minutes ago, n00dle said:

indeed they do.

 

So explain to me again how the fact she willingly took a pill justifies rape? 

Are you in the habit of banging unconscious women too?

 

Who says it was rape and she was unconscious? She can't remember, that happens when you are knowingly getting drunk / stoned. Why go to a party as entertainment girl and do drugs. Now she knows the guy is rich, she screams rape.

1 minute ago, FritsSikkink said:

Who says it was rape and she was unconscious? She can't remember, that happens when you are knowingly getting drunk / stoned. Why go to a party as entertainment girl and do drugs. Now she knows the guy is rich, she screams rape.

Inability to give explicit consent is rape.

1 minute ago, FritsSikkink said:

Who says it was rape and she was unconscious? She can't remember, that happens when you are knowingly getting drunk / stoned. Why go to a party as entertainment girl and do drugs. Now she knows the guy is rich, she screams rape.

I tell you, there are some frightening attitudes on this site.

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

Inability to give explicit consent is rape.

This should not require explanation. 

5 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Inability to give explicit consent is rape.

If I'm totally legless in a bar, flashing wads of money and wearing an expensive watch, do I bear any responsibility for getting robbed when I stagger outside? After all, I didn't give consent.

Edited January 4, 20233 yr by giddyup

2 minutes ago, n00dle said:

I tell you, there are some frightening attitudes on this site.

I tell you there are some people who don't have a clue what happened but do judge people.

Edited January 4, 20233 yr by FritsSikkink

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Inability to give explicit consent is rape.

How do you know that she didn't started the sex?

3 minutes ago, giddyup said:

If I'm totally legless in a bar, flashing wads of money and wearing an expensive watch, do I bear any responsibility for getting robbed when I stagger outside. After all I didn't give consent.

you do bear responsibility.

But the fact that you were a mess does not mitigate the guilt of the folks who robbed you.

The you were asking for it defense does not stand up,

5 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

How do you know that she didn't started the sex?

just reading you on here makes me want to shower.

Edited January 4, 20233 yr by n00dle

14 minutes ago, BananaStrong said:

knowingly swallowing pills certainly doesn't give the right to be sexually assaulted, lifetime of nightmares, counseling, rape treatment, depression, possible suicide.....   i would think not.  

Where is the proof that she was sexually assaulted? She might have willingly had sex and now wants a bigger payday by accusing someone of rape.

3 minutes ago, n00dle said:

just engaging with you on here makes me want to shower.

So you don't have an answer to the question and start insulting. What a nice person, preaching morals. What a joke.

The girl already lied about the "drugged by a friend" part as she said she took 2 pills herself.

Edited January 4, 20233 yr by FritsSikkink

10 minutes ago, giddyup said:

If I'm totally legless in a bar, flashing wads of money and wearing an expensive watch, do I bear any responsibility for getting robbed when I stagger outside? After all, I didn't give consent.

In my early days in Bangkok I got quite drunk in a club in Silom Soi 4, two girls I met offered to help me keep drinking and we went to Ratchada where I bought a bottle of whisky and promptly fell asleep on a bar stool whilst they danced. Two hours later, they woke me up and sent me home in a taxi. No one tried to rob me, even though they had opportunity. I knew this was a town I could be happy and safe in.

As she was unconscious how does she know rape took place, was there any physical evidence of sexual activity. she seemed unclear about this. 

1 minute ago, anterian said:

As she was unconscious how does she know rape took place, was there any physical evidence of sexual activity. she seemed unclear about this. 

There is a lot more unclear. She took 1 sip of beer and passed out. How did she get in the hotel room while passed out?

39 minutes ago, n00dle said:

you do bear responsibility.

But the fact that you were a mess does not mitigate the guilt of the folks who robbed you.

The you were asking for it defense does not stand up,

I've still lost my money and my watch and perhaps suffered some bodily injury as well, but I can describe the robbers from my hospital bed and hope they can be found. That really does make me feel better.

Edited January 4, 20233 yr by giddyup

35 minutes ago, Classic Ray said:

In my early days in Bangkok I got quite drunk in a club in Silom Soi 4, two girls I met offered to help me keep drinking and we went to Ratchada where I bought a bottle of whisky and promptly fell asleep on a bar stool whilst they danced. Two hours later, they woke me up and sent me home in a taxi. No one tried to rob me, even though they had opportunity. I knew this was a town I could be happy and safe in.

You were lucky that's all. To think that it can't happen in Thailand is being totally naive.

Edited January 4, 20233 yr by giddyup

28 minutes ago, Classic Ray said:

in Silom Soi 4, two girls I met

Surprised there were an girls in Soi 4???? 

1 hour ago, soi3eddie said:

Is there a single mention of the police in this story? Most western countries the police would already have arrested any and all in the alleged rape. Did she even report it? No excuse for sex without consent, even if high on drugs or alcohol. 

 

 

The Thai police would consider her taking drugs as consent. 

Admission of taking drugs would probably get her 3-5 years in jail, so probably best she not shout about it too much. 

Edited January 4, 20233 yr by BritManToo

1 hour ago, snoop1130 said:

Naen thinks that she was drugged and raped in that it was without her knowing consent.

Could she not be forensically examined to determine if she was actually raped or not?

I would have thought that would have been the normal procedure in a case of drug induced memory loss such as this.

Sometimes I have to remind myself that some folks here were born during the reign of Queen Victoria and quite naturally have dated ideas of morals, ethics and gender roles.

 

They are not going to respond reasonably to a topic like this and although I find their ideas offensive, I need to understand they cannot be reasoned with or expected to change their minds.

I think it's best to wait for the facts to come out.  If he is rich I'm sure his hotel has CCTV. 

1 minute ago, cdemundo said:

Sometimes I have to remind myself that some folks here were born during the reign of Queen Victoria and quite naturally have dated ideas of morals, ethics and gender roles.

 

They are not going to respond reasonably to a topic like this and although I find their ideas offensive, I need to understand they cannot be reasoned with or expected to change their minds.

Sometimes i have to remind myself that some folks here believe everything what is being claimed / posted and never question things to check if there is a grain of truth in the story.