Red Phoenix Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, couchpotato said: And how is this relevant to Arden resigning???? Because you can take a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted January 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) I'm pretty sure Ahern has established her legacy. She will long be remembered fondly by Kiwis for her exemplary handling of guns after the mosque shooting and covid. She's got nothing more to prove. According to the 2019 Global Peace Index, the five most peaceful countries in the world are Iceland, New Zealand, Portugal, Austria and Denmark. Let’s take a closer look at the reasons why… https://www.visionofhumanity.org/the-five-most-peaceful-countries-2019/ Edited January 19, 2023 by ozimoron 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stoner Posted January 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2023 what a weak leader. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 6 hours ago, JonnyF said: Don't even joke about that. I'd take Starmer before I took Ardern. I might even take Dianne Abbott before I took Ardern ????. so we really are getting totally sick of so-called "Democratic Values"... maybe Xi and Putin have the right idea after all?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gearbox Posted January 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2023 7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Who said all the news is bad? There will be cheering going on all over NZ. The only downside is I don't get to wear my MAGA ( Make Adhern Go Away ) hat before the election. PS I had to google it in case it was fake news, but seems it's true, hoorah! BTW, the writing was on the wall, and she knew she is losing popularity fast as. I guess she thought it prudent to resign now, rather than be humiliated in the election later this year. Where to now? The consensus among those I talk to about her is a job at the UN. Time will tell. Ardern's resignation won't change the things much. Few years from now the New Zealanders will still trade 10 lambs for 1 Samsung phone. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 minute ago, gearbox said: Ardern's resignation won't change the things much. Few years from now the New Zealanders will still trade 10 lambs for 1 Samsung phone. Unfortunately, very small countries can never be manufacturers on a global scale. Australia found that out long ago with cars and TV's. NZ never tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bagwain Posted January 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2023 17 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Unfortunately, very small countries can never be manufacturers on a global scale. Australia found that out long ago with cars and TV's. NZ never tried. That was a manufactured scenario! It worked and Oz is stuffed for being an independant & quality nation of producing many things. Now it is just a owner of many quarries! All part of the bigger plan which is unfolding before our eyes now! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted January 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2023 37 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Unfortunately, very small countries can never be manufacturers on a global scale. Australia found that out long ago with cars and TV's. NZ never tried. Australia is a very small country? Who knew? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TKDfella Posted January 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2023 3 hours ago, jak2002003 said: Why are they rejoicing? What bad things did she do to farmers? I remember reading something about a...ahem...'methane release from livestock' tax. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 46 minutes ago, Bagwain said: That was a manufactured scenario! It worked and Oz is stuffed for being an independant & quality nation of producing many things. Now it is just a owner of many quarries! All part of the bigger plan which is unfolding before our eyes now! What would the "bigger plan" be and who planned it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 14 minutes ago, TKDfella said: I remember reading something about a...ahem...'methane release from livestock' tax. Nobody should pay for environmental destruction they cause? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post couchpotato Posted January 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 hours ago, JonnyF said: Australia is a very small country? Who knew? And also has the most Australians in the world???? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 minute ago, couchpotato said: And also has the most Australians in the world???? Cute. You didn't have sufficient reasoning power to realise that I meant population? Actually, you did because you mentioned it but thought you might just take a free hit anyway. Well scored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couchpotato Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 3 hours ago, Red Phoenix said: Because you can take a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink... haha...you could be the new 'Mr Ed'???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couchpotato Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 minute ago, ozimoron said: Cute. You didn't have sufficient reasoning power to realise that I meant population? Actually, you did because you mentioned it but thought you might just take a free hit anyway. Well scored. Just one of those boring days where I'm not really posting anything meaningful. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pl8lad Posted January 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2023 Very sad news about an amazing lady doing a very difficult job, I hope Labour can find someone who can work as hard and honestly as she did, to fill those shoes. I wish her all the best for her future plans. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted January 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2023 13 hours ago, couchpotato said: And how is this relevant to Arden resigning???? Because she is the face of Labour, the party that has been in charge for some years now, joined at the hip to the greens, who seem more interested in stopping new hydro stations, than cleaning up the pollution. Listening to the radio, the luvvies are well into the cover up of her deficiencies. Seems she was loved more overseas than by the people she ruled, which IMO only goes to prove that it's easier to fool people that don't have to suffer under her policies. The news about her demise resignation spread like wildfire and everyone I spoke to was very happy about it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 11 hours ago, gearbox said: Ardern's resignation won't change the things much. Few years from now the New Zealanders will still trade 10 lambs for 1 Samsung phone. Hopefully it will, when Labour is humiliated in the election. She was the only thing Labour had to attract voters IMO. They certainly can't stand on their record, which has been abysmal. Housing, 3 waters, methane tax, gun buy back, youth crime and more- the list of fails is extensive. In the opinion of many, it's National's election, unless they really stuff it up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 12 hours ago, bangon04 said: so we really are getting totally sick of so-called "Democratic Values"... maybe Xi and Putin have the right idea after all?? Relating to NZ, what "democratic values"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 13 hours ago, jak2002003 said: Why are they rejoicing? What bad things did she do to farmers? I can only guess you haven't spoken to any NZ farmers recently. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted January 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2023 13 hours ago, jak2002003 said: What have the farmers got against her? Ever heard of 3 waters? Ever heard of the methane tax? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Where to now? The consensus among those I talk to about her is a job at the UN. Time will tell. Just heard that discussed on the radio. They had an interview with someone from the UN and he pointed out that there are no vacancies that would be "suitable" for her. I guess that plan will have to wait a while. There was a news item on Al Jazeera about her resigning, so it's obviously international news. Edited January 19, 2023 by thaibeachlovers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 13 hours ago, AnnaBanana said: Burned out at 42? Who wll likely take her place as head of Labour in NZ? Is there a talent pool of woke loons ready and waiting to step into her ruby slippers? Someone by the name of Hitchens is being mooted. So noteworthy I don't know what he does. Problem for Labour is that she so dominated the news cycle that others didn't get much attention. Even during the covid lockdowns she took center stage and shut the health minister out. The problem with that is that while she got the kudos when things went well, she also gets the brickbats when it goes wrong, and it's been going very wrong recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 13 hours ago, Purdey said: Not from NZ but I am interested to know if NZ has anyone waiting for the job that people are happy to have as PM? Who would be an excellent PM? She may be famous for stamping quickly on guns after Christchurch and handling the COVID pandemic better than most countries but she seems to be knackered and wants to hand things over - but to who? Doesn't really matter as it's only till they lose the election. National will win by a landslide IMO, as long as they don't do something really stupid before the elections. The love affair with Adhern/ Labour has been over for a while now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 41 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Because she is the face of Labour, the party that has been in charge for some years now, joined at the hip to the greens, who seem more interested in stopping new hydro stations, than cleaning up the pollution. Listening to the radio, the luvvies are well into the cover up of her deficiencies. Seems she was loved more overseas than by the people she ruled, which IMO only goes to prove that it's easier to fool people that don't have to suffer under her policies. The news about her demise resignation spread like wildfire and everyone I spoke to was very happy about it. Listening to the radio, the luvvies are well into the cover up of her deficiencies. LOL. The latest I just heard is that anyone criticizing her is a misogynist! She chose to be a politician so she gets criticized when she makes mistakes. If they want to be treated differently females shouldn't be politicians. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Burnout: Why Jacinda Ardern's 'rare' admission about her mental health matters Prof Cooper said that it is "relatively rare" for someone so high up to speak out about their mental health, particularly in politics or business - though there have been notable exceptions in the past. Prof Cooper said the impact of Ms Ardern's candour would be "very positive": "When you get people in a position of influence, in senior roles, saying something it has a more profound change on other people being prepared to open up themselves." https://news.sky.com/story/burnout-why-jacinda-arderns-rare-admission-about-her-mental-health-matters-12790047 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jak2002003 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: I can only guess you haven't spoken to any NZ farmers recently. No because I an not from NZ and live in Thailand, so am not likely too. Do you know what their people is then, because you comment is not very useful ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted January 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2023 17 hours ago, bangon04 said: so we really are getting totally sick of so-called "Democratic Values"... maybe Xi and Putin have the right idea after all?? I don't think anyone is getting tired of democratic values, but nearly everyone is getting tired of woke, climate alarmist, green socialist values. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDfella Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 16 hours ago, ozimoron said: Nobody should pay for environmental destruction they cause? Human beings also release methane, among other gases, what was the last human count, 3 billion+? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted January 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2023 Ardern was the classic authoritarian tyrant, masquerading as a "kind, progressive liberal". Who remembers "We will continue to be your only source of truth. Unless you hear it from us, it is not the truth" and "Don't talk to your neighbours". Chilling. Straight out of 1984. Not to mention locking New Zealanders out of their own country for almost 2 years. Hopefully NZ will learn lessons from this and vote more carefully in future. I hope she can get help for her reported issues and one day admit to her huge mistakes during Covid where the power clearly went to her head. Her regime certainly seems to have taken quite a toll on her and her recent behaviour and appearance suggests she has made the correct decision. It's certainly the best thing for NZ. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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