11 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Peace deals between nations that were not fighting, and nothing to stop the violence between Palestinians and Israelis.  Why do you think that's a big accomplishment?

I think that its much better for the region if all the countries recognise each others right to exist and are on speaking/friendly terms and some hostile countries are less likely to wage war against Israel if they don't have the backing of every other Country in the region .

   An attempt was made to bring a solution to the Palestinian problem , but Donald left his position of POTUS before that solution could be found 

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45 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I think that its much better for the region if all the countries recognise each others right to exist and are on speaking/friendly terms and some hostile countries are less likely to wage war against Israel if they don't have the backing of every other Country in the region .

   An attempt was made to bring a solution to the Palestinian problem , but Donald left his position of POTUS before that solution could be found 

The countries involved were already speaking, trading, and living with each other.

 

I don't recall any attempt to solve the Palestinian problem.  Please explain.

 

Also, "Donald left his position of POTUS" is a funny way to say he was booted out by a comfortable majority of the voters.

2 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Trump did not bring peace.  They were already at peace.  If Biden signed a peace deal with Canada would you credit him with bringing peace to America's northern border?

 

  Trump , Netanyahu and UAE representative all signing a Treaty of Peace between Israel and U.A.E and USA

3 minutes ago, heybruce said:

 

 

I don't recall any attempt to solve the Palestinian problem.  Please explain.

 

 

You really need to pay attention to the news a bit more , reports on the subject were widely covered in the media over a number of years  

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_peace_plan

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

 

  Trump , Netanyahu and UAE representative all signing a Treaty of Peace between Israel and U.A.E and USA

They signed a piece of paper maintaining the status quo.  Not much of an accomplishment.

On 1/27/2023 at 7:41 AM, 2baht said:

What would you call inciting insurrection?

A protest against a highly suspect election result more like.

1 hour ago, heybruce said:

The countries involved were already speaking, trading, and living with each other.

 

I don't recall any attempt to solve the Palestinian problem.  Please explain.

 

Also, "Donald left his position of POTUS" is a funny way to say he was booted out by a comfortable majority of the voters.

75 million voted for him. Watch your immature language.

8 minutes ago, heybruce said:

They signed a piece of paper maintaining the status quo.  Not much of an accomplishment.

Trump, Netanyahu and Zayed all seem to disagree with you

 

"A joint statement issued by Trump, Netanyahu, and Zayed, read: "This historic diplomatic breakthrough will advance peace in the Middle East region and is a testament to the bold diplomacy and vision of the three leaders and the courage of the United Arab Emirates and Israel to chart a new path that will unlock the great potential in the region."

15 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

75 million voted for him. Watch your immature language.

And he lost. A one term loser!

13 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Trump, Netanyahu and Zayed all seem to disagree with you

 

"A joint statement issued by Trump, Netanyahu, and Zayed, read: "This historic diplomatic breakthrough will advance peace in the Middle East region and is a testament to the bold diplomacy and vision of the three leaders and the courage of the United Arab Emirates and Israel to chart a new path that will unlock the great potential in the region."

As soon as Netanyahu got back there's trouble! I'm sure he's delighted!

2 minutes ago, 2baht said:

As soon as Netanyahu got back there's trouble! I'm sure he's delighted!

Netanyahu got back from where  ?

What trouble ?

Who was delighted ?

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

Netanyahu got back from where  ?

What trouble ?

Who was delighted ?

Back from oblivion to become PM ........again!

9 Palestinians dead yesterday, 8 Israelis today.

Benny boy will be delighted, watch him retaliate. 

1 minute ago, 2baht said:

Back from oblivion to become PM ........again!

9 Palestinians dead yesterday, 8 Israelis today.

Benny boy will be delighted, watch him retaliate. 

 

Yes, I expect a severe response from Israel 

Facebook thinks Trump is no longer a force, and they're probably right. They can pretend to be unbiased on this one for a while.

 

But make no mistake, if he starts to gain traction he will be silenced by left wing big tech again.

 

Fortunately Musk has Twitter so at least one platform won't be silencing their political opponents.

4 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Facebook thinks Trump is no longer a force, and they're probably right. They can pretend to be unbiased on this one for a while.

 

But make no mistake, if he starts to gain traction he will be silenced by left wing big tech again.

 

Fortunately Musk has Twitter so at least one platform won't be silencing their political opponents.

Why does Trump need Twitter or Facebook? He's got Truth Social.

Getting back to topic.

 

Has Trump started using Facebook to attack his politics rivals within the GOP or the women, and the wives of men, giving evidence against him yet?

9 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Facebook thinks Trump is no longer a force, and they're probably right. They can pretend to be unbiased on this one for a while.

 

But make no mistake, if he starts to gain traction he will be silenced by left wing big tech again.

 

Fortunately Musk has Twitter so at least one platform won't be silencing their political opponents.

I look forward to Trump posting again,  getting him out from under the control of his handlers is a good thing, America needs to see how far gone he is.

3 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

A protest against a highly suspect election result more like.

A protest by people who don't need evidence to justify overthrowing a legitimate election and our democratic system.

3 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

75 million voted for him. Watch your immature language.

When did stating well known facts become immaturity?

3 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Trump, Netanyahu and Zayed all seem to disagree with you

 

"A joint statement issued by Trump, Netanyahu, and Zayed, read: "This historic diplomatic breakthrough will advance peace in the Middle East region and is a testament to the bold diplomacy and vision of the three leaders and the courage of the United Arab Emirates and Israel to chart a new path that will unlock the great potential in the region."

So some politicians exaggerated their mundane accomplishment.  Does this surprise you?

3 hours ago, 2baht said:

Back from oblivion to become PM ........again!

9 Palestinians dead yesterday, 8 Israelis today.

Benny boy will be delighted, watch him retaliate. 

But, but, but....Mac Mickmanus said Trump brought peace to the Middle East!   ????

 

3 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

 

Yes, I expect a severe response from Israel 

So....no peace?

5 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

You really need to pay attention to the news a bit more , reports on the subject were widely covered in the media over a number of years  

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_peace_plan

A great idea from Trump. As the Israelis and the Palestinians don't agree with each other, let's negotiate the plan only with Netanyahu! ????

 

The plan had been delayed by two years and previously rejected by the Palestinians, who were not invited to the meeting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_peace_plan

6 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

You really need to pay attention to the news a bit more , reports on the subject were widely covered in the media over a number of years  

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_peace_plan

I missed that one, but Candide covered it nicely.  A "peace plan" that doesn't include one of the two parties that need to agree with it is not a peace plan. 

19 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

There is no comparison between Israel/UAE relations and Australia/New Zealand relations  .

   Completely different situations and incomparable .

Australia and NZ have always accepted each others right to exist and there hasn't been numerous wars in the region 

   Two very different situations 

Whoosh>>>>>>>>>

11 minutes ago, heybruce said:

I missed that one, but Candide covered it nicely.  A "peace plan" that doesn't include one of the two parties that need to agree with it is not a peace plan. 

So, in brief, a peace agreement which is not a peace agreement, and a peace plan which is not a peace plan. ????

6 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

A protest against a highly suspect election result more like.

A huge portion of Trump's supporters are evangelicals who overwhelmingly reject the theory of evolution. Given your way of judging evidence, I guess we can call the theory of evolution "highly suspect" as well.

 

 

 

2 hours ago, heybruce said:

But, but, but....Mac Mickmanus said Trump brought peace to the Middle East!   ????

 

So....no peace?

Stop lying , I didn't say Trump  bought peace to the Middle East .

 

8 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Stop lying , I didn't say Trump  bought peace to the Middle East .

 

Your original post on this subject:  "Trump also Bought peace to Israel and some of its neighbours"

 

Clearly Israel is no more peaceful now than before Trump.

10 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Your original post on this subject:  "Trump also Bought peace to Israel and some of its neighbours"

 

Clearly Israel is no more peaceful now than before Trump.

 

Israel Signing a peace accord with UAE is more peaceful than Israel NOT having  a peace accord with UAE .

   Trump also peace brokered deals between Israel and some other Countries in the region , I cannot remember who though

7 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

 

Israel Signing a peace accord with UAE is more peaceful than Israel NOT having  a peace accord with UAE .

   Trump also peace brokered deals between Israel and some other Countries in the region , I cannot remember who though

Accords between non enemies are welcomed, but cannot be called peace deals.