Popular Post Phoenix Rising Posted March 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, 2009 said: We can't just throw people in jail cos we think they aren't "good guys" What did that guy get jail for? The newly surfaced footage proves he did nothing wrong. Man, either you have some cognitive issues or you're a troll. Anyway, glad to see every heinous insurrectionist traitor gets jail for their crimes and hoping the chief traitor ends up in the same place. Edited March 25, 2023 by Phoenix Rising 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2009 Posted March 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 minute ago, ozimoron said: It wasn't suppressed. TC chose not to use it. Can you spot the difference? So, they suppressed it then, deliberately to suit their narrative and agenda. There's no difference. Tell me what the difference is. They are supposed to be unbiased, objective, and report the truth. Not hide facts from public view. It's just propaganda. 1 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, 2009 said: Don't you think the left media did the whitewashing by only showing the few people that day who rioted rather than showing the whole event? And why didn't they show the footage of Capitol Police assisting them in a guided tour inside, opening locked doors to allow them in to various chambers, particularly the guy who got 4 years jail? What this guy you mean, who broke in with the rest of the mob? Video of 'QAnon Shaman' at Capitol riot angers judge 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2baht Posted March 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, 2009 said: Not hide facts from public view. It did'nt happen, did it! 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2009 Posted March 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Phoenix Rising said: Man, you seem to have some cognitive issues or you're a troll. Anyway, glad to see every heinous insurrectionist traitor gets jail for their crimes and hoping the chief traitor ends up in the same place. Doesn't sound like much of a democracy anymore. Why didn't they have the right to go to the Capitol? It was a planned march, actually. They were permitted to march there. They did have that right. It's amazing how people can have such disregard for lives of people supporting a different political party or with different social values. It's also a phenomenon how the good middle-class people of Germany were capable of atrocities they never imagined. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted March 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2023 15 minutes ago, 2009 said: We can't just throw people in jail cos we think they aren't "good guys" What did that guy get jail for? The newly surfaced footage proves he did nothing wrong. Clearly you are impervious to logic. The "newly surfaced video" shows that he behaved himself for four minutes. Nothing more. 8 minutes ago, 2009 said: Don't you think the left media did the whitewashing by only showing the few people that day who rioted rather than showing the whole event? And why didn't they show the footage of Capitol Police assisting them in a guided tour inside, opening locked doors to allow them in to various chambers, particularly the guy who got 4 years jail? If you think only a few people broke the law you are incapable of counting in addition to your incapacity to grasp reality. Here's why the guy got four years in jail: "Jacob Chansley, the self-proclaimed "QAnon Shaman" who entered the Senate chamber and left an ominous note on a desk for then-Vice President Mike Pence, pleaded guilty to unlawfully obstructing an official proceeding -- the most serious charge in the government's indictment against him." "The other five charges against Chansley were dropped as part of a plea agreement he entered into with federal prosecutors." https://abcnews.go.com/US/qanon-shaman-pleads-guilty-felony-charge-role-jan/story?id=79821976 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2baht Posted March 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, 2009 said: It's just propaganda. The "stolen" election??? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, 2009 said: It's the other way around. There were very few rioters there that day, but that's all the media showed. They didn't show the majority doing nothing wrong. They didn't show the Capitol Police opening locked doors and giving them a civilized guided tour through the chambers inside (including that guy who got 4 years in jail). How did you feel about your government hiding information from you? How can you say that's right? I replied to you and posted a link from the NYPost in which the police was arguing they had no other choice Because they were outnumbered. Are you contesting the fact that the police was outnumbered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted March 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, 2009 said: Doesn't sound like much of a democracy anymore. Why didn't they have the right to go to the Capitol? It was a planned march, actually. They were permitted to march there. They did have that right. It's amazing how people can have such disregard for lives of people supporting a different political party or with different social values. It's also a phenomenon how the good middle-class people of Germany were capable of atrocities they never imagined. They had no right to enter the Capitol without permission. And of course, they violently entered the Capitol on the day when the Constitutionally crucial requirement of the electoral vote certification was taking place. In other words, an assault on the Constitution. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted March 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, 2009 said: Doesn't sound like much of a democracy anymore. Why didn't they have the right to go to the Capitol? It was a planned march, actually. They were permitted to march there. They did have that right. It's amazing how people can have such disregard for lives of people supporting a different political party or with different social values. It's also a phenomenon how the good middle-class people of Germany were capable of atrocities they never imagined. Initially people were claiming that the lack of security at the Capitol was evidence of some kind of conspiracy. Now you are complaining about the fact that the Capitol was closed that day for security reasons. Being illogical allows you a great deal of flexibility, doesn't it. It's amazing that people who call themselves patriots will riot and attempt to prevent the certification of legitimate election results. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2009 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, placeholder said: The police were greatly outnumbered. Had they tried to make arrests, it's unlikely that would have ended well for them. We have already seen what violence the rioters were capable of when they stormed the Capitol The police were making the best of a bad situation. Outnumbered? Look how many officers were next to him. Not only did all these officers allow this guy to walk past them, they were unlocking doors for him to allow access and escorting him around. He got 4 years in jail, which is a lot for trespassing -- especially police-assisted trespassing (if there even is such a thing, ????) ???? https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/january-6-footage-shows-capitol-cops-escorting-qanon-shaman-to-senate-floor/news-story/8ce8aebf5bbbaea347e076eb7fbaa7b0 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2009 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, candide said: Are you contesting the fact that the police was outnumbered? See my above post. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2009 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 25 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said: Man, either you have some cognitive issues or you're a troll. Anyway, glad to see every heinous insurrectionist traitor gets jail for their crimes and hoping the chief traitor ends up in the same place. I guess Elon Musk has cognitive issues, too. https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-defends-qanon-shaman-jan-6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted March 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, 2009 said: Outnumbered? Look how many officers were next to him. Not only did all these officers allow this guy to walk past them, they were unlocking doors for him to allow access and escorting him around. He got 4 years in jail, which is a lot for trespassing -- especially police-assisted trespassing (if there even is such a thing, ????) ???? https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/january-6-footage-shows-capitol-cops-escorting-qanon-shaman-to-senate-floor/news-story/8ce8aebf5bbbaea347e076eb7fbaa7b0 You're making a great point. Now if there were lots of other rioters in the building who wouldn't exactly be pleased by the arrest, then your point would be ridiculous. But since Chansley was alone that day, it's clear...oh wait a minute... 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phoenix Rising Posted March 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, 2009 said: I guess Elon Musk has cognitive issues, too. https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-defends-qanon-shaman-jan-6 On that we agree. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phoenix Rising Posted March 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, placeholder said: You're making a great point. Now if there were lots of other rioters in the building who wouldn't exactly be pleased by the arrest, then your point would be ridiculous. But since Chansley was alone that day, it's clear...oh wait a minute... Gents, it's clear by now we are feeding a troll. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted March 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Phoenix Rising said: Gents, it's clear by now we are feeding a troll. Actually, I think the case is worse. He actually believes this nonsense. Maybe one of those supporters Trump claimed wouldn't care if he shot someone on 5th Ave. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phoenix Rising Posted March 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, placeholder said: Actually, I think the case is worse. He actually believes this nonsense. Maybe one of those supporters Trump claimed wouldn't care if he shot someone on 5th Ave. Well, if there was video of him acting harmless before or after the shooting clearly he would be innocent! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 24 minutes ago, 2009 said: See my above post. Between 2000 and 2500 people entered the Capitol! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted March 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Phoenix Rising said: Gents, it's clear by now we are feeding a troll. It's why I stopped posting on political threads. They aren't interested in facts or rational debates. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Did he make Bail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2009 Posted March 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) On 3/25/2023 at 11:55 AM, placeholder said: Actually, I think the case is worse. He actually believes this nonsense. And the court believed it too. ???????? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? He was released after the CCTV evidence was given light recently. In other words, he was wrongfully imprisoned for over two years! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11920455/QAnon-Shaman-Jacob-Chansley-released-early-prison-halfway-house-lawyer-says.html Edited March 31, 2023 by 2009 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted March 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2023 1 hour ago, 2009 said: And the court believed it too. ???????? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? He was released after the CCTV evidence was given light recently. In other words, he was wrongfully imprisoned for over two years! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11920455/QAnon-Shaman-Jacob-Chansley-released-early-prison-halfway-house-lawyer-says.html Wrong. From your source: "Chansley's release comes weeks after his former attorney demanded he be freed in light of new video from the Capitol riot, but his move to the halfway house appears to be unconnected." "A former federal prosecutor unconnected with the case said it was doubtful public pressure played a role in Chansley's transfer, noting the move appears 'kind of routine' under BOP guidelines. " "Federal inmates can receive a 15 percent reduction in their prison sentence for good behavior behind bars, and can also serve the final 12 months of their sentences in halfway houses at the discretion of the Bureau of Prisons. " From one of many other sources: "His former attorney and legal experts say it has nothing to do with Tucker Carlson, or the Fox News host’s broadcast of footage of Chansley seemingly being led through the hallways of the U.S. Capitol by police." https://time.com/6267335/jan-6-qanon-shaman-jacob-chansley-released-early-prison/ 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) So it turns out Trump was almost caught out telling the truth. Yes he will be arrested on Tuesday, he just didn’t say which Tuesday. I wonder if he’ll try to incite a mob? It is he worried nobody will turn up? Trump Making Arraignment Guest Appearance. Edited March 31, 2023 by Chomper Higgot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted April 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, 2009 said: And the court believed it too. ???????? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? He was released after the CCTV evidence was given light recently. In other words, he was wrongfully imprisoned for over two years! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11920455/QAnon-Shaman-Jacob-Chansley-released-early-prison-halfway-house-lawyer-says.html If it was determined by the legal system that he had been wrongfully imprisoned, then his sentence would have been vacated. Instead, he was sent to a halfway house. Edited April 1, 2023 by placeholder 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2009 Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 4 hours ago, placeholder said: If it was determined by the legal system that he had been wrongfully imprisoned, then his sentence would have been vacated. Instead, he was sent to a halfway house. Would, or could? Didn't realize you were a lawyer, lol. Who needs to pass the bar these days? I reckon the average member here thinks he's an expert in law, among other things. ???? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted April 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2023 40 minutes ago, 2009 said: Would, or could? Didn't realize you were a lawyer, lol. Who needs to pass the bar these days? I reckon the average member here thinks he's an expert in law, among other things. ???? You're the one who claimed that his being released to a halfway house established his innocence. That the court believed it. There is nothing in Chanseley's incarceration treatment that was unusual or that justifies your assertion.. As the comments in the article you cited made clear. You are the one making things up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 Well he got the day right. Let the circus commence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 Reported on Al Jazeera that he's getting a large amount of financial support now for his election campaign. Be ironic if by indicting him they give him the means to win next year. LOL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 1:26 PM, ukrules said: Did he make Bail? Don't think he needs to if he turns himself in voluntarily. Could be a long time before the case goes to court. I guess the Dems hope it won't be over before the election. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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