22 minutes ago, Longwood50 said:

Oh so according to you Joe had "no political influence" once he left office.  Which planet do you live on.  Also who is to say the transfers were not for favors already performed. 

Now if you don't find it strange, that members not just Hunter got money from overseas governments despite in some cases doing nothing and in Hunter's case being not qualified, I am sorry but I just don't understand your particular level of insanity but I admire your conviction to stay with it. 

 

In other words, you've got nothing.

I personally have no doubt that Hunter Biden got a lot of business due to his Joe Biden being father. We also know that Hunter Biden is not the most honorable person. Who knows what he told business associates about his ties to his father and what, if any, relation it bore to the truth?

54 minutes ago, Longwood50 said:

Oh so according to you Joe had "no political influence" once he left office.  Which planet do you live on.  Also who is to say the transfers were not for favors already performed. 

Now if you don't find it strange, that members not just Hunter got money from overseas governments despite in some cases doing nothing and in Hunter's case being not qualified, I am sorry but I just don't understand your particular level of insanity but I admire your conviction to stay with it. 

 

Oh so you have trouble writing coherently, because you definitely gave the impression that you thought the money was to influence President Biden when you posted:

 

" No he is the presidents son and that is the one and only distinquishing feature he has that gives him an edge in getting money versus the Chinese and Russians giving it to people who truly are professionals in their field."

 

I assume the Chinese thought they could influence US politicians as easily as they bribe Chinese officials and officials in much of the rest of the world.  Hunter was sleazy enough to take advantage of that.  However there is no evidence the money they wasted influenced Joe Biden in any way.  Come back when you have evidence to the contrary.

1 hour ago, Longwood50 said:

Oh so according to you Joe had "no political influence" once he left office.  Which planet do you live on.  Also who is to say the transfers were not for favors already performed. 

Now if you don't find it strange, that members not just Hunter got money from overseas governments despite in some cases doing nothing and in Hunter's case being not qualified, I am sorry but I just don't understand your particular level of insanity but I admire your conviction to stay with it. 

 

Influence what? Get which favours?

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15 minutes ago, candide said:

Influence what? Get which favours?

Gee,  Now guess which prosecutor was going after Burisma the company that was paying Hunter Biden who new squat about oil and gas and had no expertise in Ukraine tens of thousands of dollars to be on their board. 

https://www.wsj.com/video/opinion-joe-biden-forced-ukraine-to-fire-prosecutor-for-aid-money/C1C51BB8-3988-4070-869F-CAD3CA0E81D8.html

Another nothing burger from fox fiction. Let me see if I can recall a few more.

- Benghazi

- twitter papers

- Clinton email server

- Whitewater

- fast and furious 

- etc 

 

Any more I missed? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

29 minutes ago, Longwood50 said:

Gee,  Now guess which prosecutor was going after Burisma the company that was paying Hunter Biden who new squat about oil and gas and had no expertise in Ukraine tens of thousands of dollars to be on their board. 

https://www.wsj.com/video/opinion-joe-biden-forced-ukraine-to-fire-prosecutor-for-aid-money/C1C51BB8-3988-4070-869F-CAD3CA0E81D8.html

1. It has been debunked long time ago

 

2. I guess you  are not claiming that the Chinese company has given money  for that. So which favour did the Chinese oil company get in the U.S.? Tell us!

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7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Bit like with Trump then.

Years of investigations and not a single personal conviction in a court of law.

Could that be because ap until last night, Wednesday 22 March, ne had not been charged with anything?

 

No charges equal no convictions.

 

When he is charged, and if he is convicted, (it cannot come soon enough IMO), then you will be wrong. Until that time you are partly correct.

 

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That Biden is apparently corrupt.

Has President Biden been charged with any crimes, let alone convicted?

 

quote from your post "A bit like with Trump then."

8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Thread isn't about Fox.

Beg to differ.

So the big question is why is fox fiction(aka fox news by the unaware) still a valid source to link to on AN? With their recent admissions about their lying they should be banned just like the other fiction sites like facebook, etc. 

1 hour ago, Longwood50 said:

Gee,  Now guess which prosecutor was going after Burisma the company that was paying Hunter Biden who new squat about oil and gas and had no expertise in Ukraine tens of thousands of dollars to be on their board. 

https://www.wsj.com/video/opinion-joe-biden-forced-ukraine-to-fire-prosecutor-for-aid-money/C1C51BB8-3988-4070-869F-CAD3CA0E81D8.html

You're deep in the rabbit hole, aren't you?  No matter how often and thoroughly that nonsense has been debunked, you just can't let it go.

 

"It's true that Joe Biden leveraged $1 billion in aid to persuade Ukraine to oust its top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, in March 2016. But it wasn't because Shokin was investigating Burisma. It was because Shokin wasn't pursuing corruption among the country's politicians."

"As European and American diplomats pressed Ukraine to clean up its corruption, they focused on Shokin's leadership of the Prosecutor General's Office, which he took over in February 2015."

"Mike Carpenter, who served as a foreign policy adviser to the then-vice president, told USA TODAY that Shokin "never went after any corrupt individuals at all" and "never prosecuted any high-profile cases of corruption." "   https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/21/fact-check-joe-biden-leveraged-ukraine-aid-oust-corrupt-prosecutor/5991434002/

 

Of course having your nonsense discredited again won't prevent you from using it and other fake news in the future.

On 3/19/2023 at 6:16 PM, EVENKEEL said:

Oh dear,  doesn't sound good for the bidens.

They say everybody has a twin, but I think Joe Biden may have a few that look just like him?

21 minutes ago, Longwood50 said:

The truth has no defense for a fool who is willing to believe a lie.  Debunked only by those like you who should be able to see the truth but instead want to believe the lie because it conforms to their predisposed opinions.  

There would be no reason for Joe to stick his business into who was a prosecutor in Ukraine if it was not for his son. 

You had Trump supposedly in what his opponents called a "quid pro quo" and over reach into Ukrainian politicts for just asking the Ukrainian president to look into the matter.  Yet Joe can go publicly bragging how he threatened to withold aid if his demands were not met.

I don't undertand your advocation to lunacy but you are obviously committed to it.

Right, the Trump-Zelenski conversation in which Zelenski is discussing his country's need for Javelin anti-tank weapons and Trump abruptly changed the conversation to investigating Joe Biden.  https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/25/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-transcript-call/index.html

 

I can think of just two reasons for such a sharp change in subject:  Trump wanted to link US support to Ukraine to a Biden investigation (blackmail) or Trump has a short attention span and can't stay focused.  I suppose both could be correct.

 

Why do you think Trump took the discussion in such a weird direction?

3 hours ago, heybruce said:

Right, the Trump-Zelenski conversation in which Zelenski is discussing his country's need for Javelin anti-tank weapons and Trump abruptly changed the conversation to investigating Joe Biden.  https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/25/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-transcript-call/index.html

 

I can think of just two reasons for such a sharp change in subject:  Trump wanted to link US support to Ukraine to a Biden investigation (blackmail) or Trump has a short attention span and can't stay focused.  I suppose both could be correct.

 

Why do you think Trump took the discussion in such a weird direction?

Also, Longwood's and the right wing version of Burisma has long been discredited. Joe Biden was sent to Ukraine at the instigation of the American Ambassador to Ukraine and at Obama's behest and with the full concurrence of the EU. One of his missions there was to strongly stipulate that the corrupt prosecutor, Viktor Shokin be fired. Biden had no role in instigating or ordering this. Shokin later claimed he was fired because he was conducting an investigation of Burisma and Biden was protecting his son. This is false. Shokin's staff confirmed this wasn't true. There was no such ongoing investigation. But the lie survives.

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4 hours ago, Longwood50 said:

Gee,  Now guess which prosecutor was going after Burisma the company that was paying Hunter Biden who new squat about oil and gas and had no expertise in Ukraine tens of thousands of dollars to be on their board. 

https://www.wsj.com/video/opinion-joe-biden-forced-ukraine-to-fire-prosecutor-for-aid-money/C1C51BB8-3988-4070-869F-CAD3CA0E81D8.html

You are obviously not well informed. Actually, the Obama administration has been pushing for investigating Burisma and criticizing the general prosecutor's office and Shokin and others for not investigating and covering up Burisma.

 

"Feb. 3, 2015 — Obama administration conveys harsh criticism of Ukraine Prosecutor General’s Office for its coverup of Zlochevskiy/Burisma"

"Sept. 24, 2015 – U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt excoriates officials in the Prosecutor General’s Office for stymying anti-corruption investigations, including those involving Burisma

"Fall 2015 – Biden, along with the EU, publicly calls for ouster of Prosecutor General Shokin for failure to work on anti-corruption efforts."

Etc....

All details are in the timeline.

https://www.justsecurity.org/66271/timeline-trump-giuliani-bidens-and-ukrainegate/

17 hours ago, placeholder said:

Also, Longwood's and the right wing version of Burisma has long been discredited. Joe Biden was sent to Ukraine at the instigation of the American Ambassador to Ukraine and at Obama's behest and with the full concurrence of the EU. One of his missions there was to strongly stipulate that the corrupt prosecutor, Viktor Shokin be fired. Biden had no role in instigating or ordering this. Shokin later claimed he was fired because he was conducting an investigation of Burisma and Biden was protecting his son. This is false. Shokin's staff confirmed this wasn't true. There was no such ongoing investigation. But the lie survives.

I'll just leave this right here.

 

2 minutes ago, BadSpottedDog said:

I'll just leave this right here.

 

I'm familiar with the video. What do think is in it that contradicts what I wrote?