Poland may be forced to 'enter the war' in Ukraine, ambassador says

[Social Media]

Poland would have 'no choice' but to 'enter the conflict' in Ukraine if the war-torn country fails to defend itself, Warsaw's ambassador to France has warned.

 

Jan Emeryk Rościszewski said Poland would have to enter the war if Ukraine failed to defend itself against Russia because the basis of its 'civilisation and culture' would be threatened.

[StayinThailand2much]

9 minutes ago, Social Media said:

because the basis of its 'civilisation and culture' would be threatened.

So, Poland's basis of civilisation and culture is Ukranian? Interesting.

[Jingthing]

28 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said:

So, Poland's basis of civilisation and culture is Ukranian? Interesting.

That's not what he said.

[Homburg]

That's fighting talk.  I thought that ambassadors were supposed to be diplomats?

[RobU]

The basis of Poland's culture and civilization is freedom of speech and democracy as is Ukraine's.

Putin wants to expand Russia's domination and culture back to the old USSR setup and set up a new Tsar dynasty He has already likened himself to Peter the Great.

He wants to destroy any affiliation with the west so Poland and neighbouring countries are definitely in the firing line, if Ukraine loses.

Its far more logical for Poland and its neighbours to protect their infrastructure and citizens by keeping the fight in Ukraine than have the Russians decimate rape and pillage their own countries as it has done in the Ukraine.

 

10 hours ago, StayinThailand2much said:

So, Poland's basis of civilisation and culture is Ukranian? Interesting.

 

Edited March 21, 2023 by RobU

[expat_4_life]

"Poland would have 'no choice' but to 'enter the conflict' in Ukraine if the war-torn country fails to defend itself, Warsaw's ambassador to France has warned."

 

Where do these people come from, "no choice"? Really?

 

Of course there are choices other than expanding the conflict but these dipsticks seem hell bent on dragging NATO into war.

 

 

Edited March 21, 2023 by expat_4_life

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...Stranger Than Fiction...

[Bkk Brian]

11 hours ago, StayinThailand2much said:

So, Poland's basis of civilisation and culture is Ukranian? Interesting.

I think you'll find Poland is responding to the Russian deputy chair of their Defense Committee when a couple of weeks ago he threatened to push back Poland's borders.

[StayinThailand2much]

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

I think you'll find Poland is responding to the Russian deputy chair of their Defense Committee when a couple of weeks ago he threatened to push back Poland's borders.

Fair enough. Haven't had the time recently to follow all the latest news about the conflict.

[billd766]

6 hours ago, expat_4_life said:

"Poland would have 'no choice' but to 'enter the conflict' in Ukraine if the war-torn country fails to defend itself, Warsaw's ambassador to France has warned."

 

Where do these people come from, "no choice"? Really?

 

Of course there are choices other than expanding the conflict but these dipsticks seem hell bent on dragging NATO into war.

 

 

And the best choice would be for Russia to stop its war in the Ukraine, withdraw all its troops from ALL occupied Ukrainian territory, return ALL the forcibly taken Ukraine children back to the Ukraine, pay to rebuild the Ukraine from the damage it has wrought and turn Putin over to the ICC.

 

Sadly IMHO, none of that will happen.

[condo62]

No Poland won't as the peacemaker Xi has had his 12 step peace meeting with Mr I was forced to Invade Pootin.....????

[thaibeachlovers]

On 3/21/2023 at 1:35 PM, expat_4_life said:

Of course there are choices other than expanding the conflict but these dipsticks seem hell bent on dragging NATO into war.

Agreed, but I wonder if Poland enters voluntarily if NATO would be forced to also enter. As I see it NATO is a defensive organisation, not a war making organisation.

As long as Russia didn't take the bait and attack Poland itself, it may be possible for NATO to stay out of it.

 

IMO it's rather sad that any country is so eager to sacrifice the lives of it's young men.

As usual war is between young men and civilians ( collateral damage ) while the politicians sit safely miles and miles behind the lines.

[billd766]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Agreed, but I wonder if Poland enters voluntarily if NATO would be forced to also enter. As I see it NATO is a defensive organisation, not a war making organisation.

As long as Russia didn't take the bait and attack Poland itself, it may be possible for NATO to stay out of it.

 

IMO it's rather sad that any country is so eager to sacrifice the lives of it's young men.

As usual war is between young men and civilians ( collateral damage ) while the politicians sit safely miles and miles behind the lines.

Yet President Zelensky often travels to the front line in the Ukraine to support and encourage his Ukrainian troops.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65036208

 

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has returned to the front line near Bakhmut where fighting has raged for months.

The devastated city has long been a focal point of the war as Russian forces try to revive their military campaign in the east.

His visit came as Russian forces launched a series of strikes on Ukrainian cities.

 

While President Zelensky condemned Russia's "bestial" attacks on civilians, he also visited the eastern front line, where Ukrainian forces have held Russia at bay for more than seven months. He last visited the area in December.

Footage released by the President's office showed him in an old industrial warehouse giving medals to battle-weary soldiers. "I am honoured to be here today," he told servicemen, "in the east of our country, in Donbas, and to award our heroes, to thank you, to shake your hands."

 

There is more info in the link.

 

President Zelensky often does this, compared to Putin who despite the overwhelming Russian numbers, has yet to set foot near the front lines.

[thaibeachlovers]

17 hours ago, billd766 said:

Yet President Zelensky often travels to the front line in the Ukraine to support and encourage his Ukrainian troops.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65036208

 

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has returned to the front line near Bakhmut where fighting has raged for months.

The devastated city has long been a focal point of the war as Russian forces try to revive their military campaign in the east.

His visit came as Russian forces launched a series of strikes on Ukrainian cities.

 

While President Zelensky condemned Russia's "bestial" attacks on civilians, he also visited the eastern front line, where Ukrainian forces have held Russia at bay for more than seven months. He last visited the area in December.

Footage released by the President's office showed him in an old industrial warehouse giving medals to battle-weary soldiers. "I am honoured to be here today," he told servicemen, "in the east of our country, in Donbas, and to award our heroes, to thank you, to shake your hands."

 

There is more info in the link.

 

President Zelensky often does this, compared to Putin who despite the overwhelming Russian numbers, has yet to set foot near the front lines.

President Zelensky often does this, compared to Putin who despite the overwhelming Russian numbers, has yet to set foot near the front lines.

 

Errr, did you miss this the other day?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/3/19/russia-ukraine-live-putin-makes-surprise-trip-to

Russia-Ukraine updates: Putin makes surprise trip to Mariupol

 

 

It's not like I care if either visits anywhere near the front line, but one should get one's facts right when making a statement, shouldn't one?

[expat_4_life]

You make a valid point about who decides we fight the wars and who comes home in body bags

 

On 3/25/2023 at 7:06 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

As usual war is between young men and civilians ( collateral damage ) while the politicians sit safely miles and miles behind the lines.

Then along comes someone that wants to take exception, as if visiting the troops is like fighting in a war.

 

19 hours ago, billd766 said:

Yet President Zelensky often travels to the front line in the Ukraine to support and encourage his Ukrainian troops.

 

I agree, why care about visitors. They are there to promote and prolong the conflict - not to save lives. In fact, I loathe each and every one of them.

 

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It's not like I care if either visits anywhere near the front line...

 

[billd766]

6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

President Zelensky often does this, compared to Putin who despite the overwhelming Russian numbers, has yet to set foot near the front lines.

 

Errr, did you miss this the other day?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/3/19/russia-ukraine-live-putin-makes-surprise-trip-to

Russia-Ukraine updates: Putin makes surprise trip to Mariupol

 

 

It's not like I care if either visits anywhere near the front line, but one should get one's facts right when making a statement, shouldn't one?

You are correct and it is my bad. 

[thaibeachlovers]

20 hours ago, billd766 said:

You are correct and it is my bad. 

Thank you for that.

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On 3/26/2023 at 6:17 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

President Zelensky often does this, compared to Putin who despite the overwhelming Russian numbers, has yet to set foot near the front lines.

 

Errr, did you miss this the other day?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/3/19/russia-ukraine-live-putin-makes-surprise-trip-to

Russia-Ukraine updates: Putin makes surprise trip to Mariupol

 

 

It's not like I care if either visits anywhere near the front line, but one should get one's facts right when making a statement, shouldn't one?

 

On 3/26/2023 at 6:17 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

President Zelensky often does this, compared to Putin who despite the overwhelming Russian numbers, has yet to set foot near the front lines.

 

Errr, did you miss this the other day?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/3/19/russia-ukraine-live-putin-makes-surprise-trip-to

Russia-Ukraine updates: Putin makes surprise trip to Mariupol

 

 

It's not like I care if either visits anywhere near the front line, but one should get one's facts right when making a statement, shouldn't one?

Yes one should.

Mariupol is about 50 miles from the front lines, which is just outside of the range of Ukraine's HIMARS or M270 systems.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/mariupol-strikes-raise-questions-about-possible-new-ukrainian-long-range-weapons