Popular Post onthedarkside Posted April 17, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 17, 2023 A key figure in the pro-Trump “Stop the Steal” campaign has apologized after being accused of asking teenage boys for sexual pictures. Ali Alexander has become one of the most ubiquitous figures in the MAGA movement. Trump himself reportedly requested that Alexander speak at his rally before the riot, with his appearance only quashed by a last-minute intervention from Trump’s aides. But this week, Alexander stands at the center of a scandal that raises questions about how powerful men in the far-right treat their younger acolytes. READ MORE https://www.thedailybeast.com/stop-the-steal-organizer-ali-alexander-apologizes-after-being-accused-of-asking-teen-boys-for-sexual-pics 3
Popular Post SunnyinBangrak Posted April 17, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 17, 2023 never heard of this individual, but I do like this "“I apologize for any inappropriate messages sent over the years,” Alexander wrote, adding later, “When I’ve flirted or others have flirted with me, I’ve flexed my credentials or dropped corny pick up lines. Other times, I’ve been careless and should’ve qualified those coming up to me’s (sic) identities during flirtatious banter at the start.” That is the correct way to deal with mistakes. How rare these days for people to own up and apologise when they mess up. 8
Bkk Brian Posted April 17, 2023 Posted April 17, 2023 MTG distancing herself as quickly as possible and now wants the FBI to investigate.......lol https://twitter.com/mtgreenee/status/1648082814095556608 2
Popular Post Credo Posted April 17, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 17, 2023 21 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said: never heard of this individual, but I do like this "“I apologize for any inappropriate messages sent over the years,” Alexander wrote, adding later, “When I’ve flirted or others have flirted with me, I’ve flexed my credentials or dropped corny pick up lines. Other times, I’ve been careless and should’ve qualified those coming up to me’s (sic) identities during flirtatious banter at the start.” That is the correct way to deal with mistakes. How rare these days for people to own up and apologise when they mess up. But you seem to have missed the whole part of his grooming, exploiting and lying to a 15-YEAR-OLD: In 2017, Aidan Duncan—a 15-year-old boy in Colorado interested in right-wing politics—sent Alexander nude pictures after the MAGA activist asked him for them, according to an account Duncan gave in a March 2023 podcast appearance. While Duncan was a high-school sophomore just starting out in politics, Alexander was a 32-year-old with a decade of political work for the Republican Party behind him. And now he was willing to share the connections he had gained through that work with Duncan, as long as the teenager met certain preconditions, including secrecy. “You’ll have [me] sharing my entire network with you,” Alexander told Duncan, according to Snapchat screenshots reviewed by The Daily Beast. So, yup, that's how you use your power and position to groom someone. 3 5
Popular Post Credo Posted April 17, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 17, 2023 And such an honorable person:Originally from Dallas, Alexander pleaded guilty to felony property theft in 2007 and felony credit card abuse in 2008. 4 1
Popular Post heybruce Posted April 18, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 18, 2023 1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said: never heard of this individual, but I do like this "“I apologize for any inappropriate messages sent over the years,” Alexander wrote, adding later, “When I’ve flirted or others have flirted with me, I’ve flexed my credentials or dropped corny pick up lines. Other times, I’ve been careless and should’ve qualified those coming up to me’s (sic) identities during flirtatious banter at the start.” That is the correct way to deal with mistakes. How rare these days for people to own up and apologise when they mess up. "That is the correct way to deal with mistakes." The correct way to deal with a mistake is to not admit to them until presented with irrefutable evidence, then apologize with vague and noncommittal words? 4 1 1 2
bamnutsak Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 Another Republican "junk" collector. 1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said: That is the correct way to deal with mistakes. How rare these days for people to own up and apologise when they mess up. Is this what Matt Schlapp did? 2
Popular Post SunnyinBangrak Posted April 18, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 18, 2023 17 minutes ago, heybruce said: "That is the correct way to deal with mistakes." The correct way to deal with a mistake is to not admit to them until presented with irrefutable evidence, then apologize with vague and noncommittal words? Would you rather anyone that speaks facts about Alexander and his deeds be banned from the internet and called a "conspiracy theorist", even though they are dealing in fact? No, of course not. That would be totally ridiculous and dishonest. So it's refreshing that he is taking responsibility for his misdeeds. I hope this inspires notorious/famous untouchable law breakers from left field to start accepting responsibility and media start reporting honestly on crimes even when committed by the left, as we see, it's not that difficult. Here's hoping. 6
Popular Post bamnutsak Posted April 18, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 18, 2023 I'm begining to think the Republican fascination with grooming is projection. The Far Right Is Roiled by an Underage-Sex Scandal Over the past month or so, the far right has been embroiled in a scandal involving the alleged grooming practices that its loudest voices have claimed are rampant among liberals. According to two accusers who have come forward, Stop the Steal founder Ali Alexander allegedly came on to them when they were teenage boys, asking for nudes from a 17-year-old and pressuring a 15-year-old to have sex with him. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/04/ali-alexander-accused-of-soliciting-nudes-from-teens.html 8 1
Popular Post placeholder Posted April 18, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Would you rather anyone that speaks facts about Alexander and his deeds be banned from the internet and called a "conspiracy theorist", even though they are dealing in fact? No, of course not. That would be totally ridiculous and dishonest. So it's refreshing that he is taking responsibility for his misdeeds. I hope this inspires notorious/famous untouchable law breakers from left field to start accepting responsibility and media start reporting honestly on crimes even when committed by the left, as we see, it's not that difficult. Here's hoping. Ali was outed for real misdeeds, with irrefutable evidence. Not alleged, imaginary ones based on repeatedly debunked evidence. 5
Popular Post placeholder Posted April 18, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said: MTG distancing herself as quickly as possible and now wants the FBI to investigate.......lol https://twitter.com/mtgreenee/status/1648082814095556608 Well, to judge from her past form, maybe the problem is that he's' not white? 4 1
heybruce Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 40 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Would you rather anyone that speaks facts about Alexander and his deeds be banned from the internet and called a "conspiracy theorist", even though they are dealing in fact? No, of course not. That would be totally ridiculous and dishonest. So it's refreshing that he is taking responsibility for his misdeeds. I hope this inspires notorious/famous untouchable law breakers from left field to start accepting responsibility and media start reporting honestly on crimes even when committed by the left, as we see, it's not that difficult. Here's hoping. A conspiracy theorist dealing with facts? Can you give an example. Though I will agree the approach of a vague admission of possible misjudgment is better than the Trump approach of outright denial of the obvious. 1
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted April 18, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 18, 2023 2 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said: never heard of this individual, but I do like this "“I apologize for any inappropriate messages sent over the years,” Alexander wrote, adding later, “When I’ve flirted or others have flirted with me, I’ve flexed my credentials or dropped corny pick up lines. Other times, I’ve been careless and should’ve qualified those coming up to me’s (sic) identities during flirtatious banter at the start.” That is the correct way to deal with mistakes. How rare these days for people to own up and apologise when they mess up. OK, that’s the mistakes. Now let’s deal with the Criminal actions. 2 2
Popular Post Tug Posted April 18, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 18, 2023 Awww darn and there I thought only the democrats were pedophiles lol…that’s our Donnie only attracting the best people ehh….oh Lordy!! 2 1
Mac Mickmanus Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Tug said: Awww darn and there I thought only the democrats were pedophiles lol…that’s our Donnie only attracting the best people ehh….oh Lordy!! "Paedophile" isn't mentioned in the story , you added that word yourself . "Young men" is the term used in the story and there is no mention of paedophilic behaviour
Popular Post Tug Posted April 18, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: "Paedophile" isn't mentioned in the story , you added that word yourself . "Young men" is the term used in the story and there is no mention of paedophilic behaviour The kid he’s pestering was 15years old that’s underage asking for nude pictures is most definitely grooming no doubt about it it’s also homosexual not a good maga look hummm……? 4 1
n00dle Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Would you rather anyone that speaks facts about Alexander and his deeds be banned from the internet and called a "conspiracy theorist", even though they are dealing in fact? No, of course not. That would be totally ridiculous and dishonest. So it's refreshing that he is taking responsibility for his misdeeds. aye what? 57 minutes ago, heybruce said: I hope this inspires notorious/famous untouchable law breakers from left field to start accepting responsibility and media start reporting honestly on crimes even when committed by the left, as we see, it's not that difficult. what kind of world do you live in that makes anything this man does give inspiration or hope? 2
Mac Mickmanus Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Tug said: The kid he’s pestering was 15years old that’s underage asking for nude pictures is most definitely grooming no doubt about it it’s also homosexual not a good maga look hummm……? No paedophilia though , paedophila being an attraction to pre pubescent children , 11 years old and below . 15 years old is well out of that region 1
Mac Mickmanus Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 Ali Alexander personally identifies as "Black, Catholic and Arab "
Popular Post bamnutsak Posted April 18, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 18, 2023 21 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: No paedophilia though , paedophila being an attraction to pre pubescent children , 11 years old and below . 15 years old is well out of that region OK, but it is still illegal, so let's settle on "Statutory Rape". Thanks for bringing clarity to this thread. 2 1
Mac Mickmanus Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 1 minute ago, bamnutsak said: OK, but it is still illegal, so let's settle on "Statutory Rape". Thanks for bringing clarity to this thread. Again, those words aren't mentioned in the news report . 1
Popular Post bendejo Posted April 18, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 18, 2023 Stolen erection pics indeed! I never understood what this guy was about. I'd see him on newstalk shows and it was pretty much word salad, Sarah Palin level. 3
bamnutsak Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Again, those words aren't mentioned in the news report . Correct. If you read the full, linked article, and others you'll see that Mr. Alexander pressured a fifteen year old male for sexual relations. But Alexander had grown frustrated by May 2019, claiming that the still-underage Duncan wouldn’t send him “good jack off material,” according to the screenshots. “You don’t even send me videos anymore,” Alexander wrote, according to the message. “No good jack off material. Don’t even wanna be my side piece.” A day later, according to the screenshots, he asked Duncan to come to Texas for a week for an “internship.” I will stipulate that it appears, in this one case, that it was Attempted Statutory Rape. Let's wait and see if other victims come forward. 2
Mac Mickmanus Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, bamnutsak said: Correct. If you read the full, linked article, and others you'll see that Mr. Alexander pressured a fifteen year old male for sexual relations. I will stipulate that it appears, in this one case, that it was Attempted Statutory Rape. Let's wait and see if other victims come forward. Once gain, those words ("Attempted statutory rate") are not mentioned in the story . Ali asked a 17 year old male to send him photos of his "eggplants" , I don't think that that is considered to be "attempted statutory rape" 1
heybruce Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 53 minutes ago, n00dle said: aye what? what kind of world do you live in that makes anything this man does give inspiration or hope? I don't know how your reply got mislabeled, but that second box you replied to was definitely not me.
Popular Post heybruce Posted April 18, 2023 Popular Post Posted April 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Once gain, those words ("Attempted statutory rate") are not mentioned in the story . Ali asked a 17 year old male to send him photos of his "eggplants" , I don't think that that is considered to be "attempted statutory rape" How about sick, disgusting, creepy as sh*t. I know, those words weren't used either. However wouldn't you agree they are appropriate? 1 1 3
Mac Mickmanus Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, heybruce said: How about sick, disgusting, creepy as sh*t. I know, those words weren't used either. However wouldn't you agree they are appropriate? I do agree that people can give their opinion on his behaviour , I just don't think that people should make false accusations like rape and paedophilia 1
Chomper Higgot Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said: "Paedophile" isn't mentioned in the story , you added that word yourself . "Young men" is the term used in the story and there is no mention of paedophilic behaviour That’s a very thin line of defense, more the point not a behaviour many feel the need to defend. 2
Chomper Higgot Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 25 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: I do agree that people can give their opinion on his behaviour , I just don't think that people should make false accusations like rape and paedophilia If a predatory pervert gets accused of other crimes, I’m not inclined to be the least bit concerned. 1
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