snoop1130 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 BANGKOK, April 27 (TNA) – In Thailand, registrations of new electric vehicles in March rose for the third month in a row. Government spokesman Anucha Burapachaisri said registrations of BEVs increased to more than 8,500 in March thanks to the government’s measures to promote the use of electric vehicles. The figures in March comprised 6,205 personal cars and 2,263 motorcycles, according to the Department of Land Transport. Full Story: https://tna.mcot.net/english-news/line-today-english-news-1161901 -- © Copyright Thai News Agency 2023-04-27 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. The most versatile and flexible rental investment and holiday home solution in Thailand - click for more information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Speedhump Posted April 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2023 Would anyone here who regularly makes long overland journeys seriously consider an electric car as their only vehicle by choice? Serious question. I'd rather eat Soylent Green if we're talking environmental concerns. 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jotnar Posted April 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Speedhump said: Would anyone here who regularly makes long overland journeys seriously consider an electric car as their only vehicle by choice? Serious question. I'd rather eat Soylent Green if we're talking environmental concerns. yes Edited April 28, 2023 by Jotnar 1 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedhump Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Jotnar said: yes OK. If we're playing silly bggrs, why? The inconvenience of mileage range, lack of charge points in some locations or difficulty planning to visit them and hoping they're not already being used, , the hours breaking your journey to recharge,... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharksy Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Certainly in the UK, an electric car is only a sensible option if you can charge it from home, drive it, charge it at home again. The aggro of finding compatile charging points that are not out of order or have a queue of vehicles in front of you waiting to be charged would be too much for many. I can see in a few years time the above situation would probably change as batteries evolve and accept much faster charging. If you are regulary travelling long distances, maybe a hybrid or diesel car would be more suitable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 13 hours ago, Jotnar said: 4 <1 hr to charge, and a welcome break indeed Well that presumes fast charging points being available.....are they really enough of then to support a drive round the Mae Hong Song Loop say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jotnar Posted April 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, jacko45k said: Well that presumes fast charging points being available.....are they really enough of then to support a drive round the Mae Hong Song Loop say? Longest stretch between CSs is 161 kms in MHS, then 237 if wanting to go down to Mae Sot, so I'd say yes Of course if living there, you're charging at home. CM - MHS is 239 kms, so I'd say yes, again. Certainly not ideal, but that, is one of the only places, that doesn't have more than enough, but DOES have enough. If you want to pick a spot that pushes the limits, you should have chose Loei to Utteradit, as that's shy of 300kms, without a slight detour top to up. As many say, EVs are not for everyone. Enjoy what you have, and let the EV owners enjoy their ride, and the extra baht in their pocket, or knowing they are not contributing to the local air pollution. Edited April 29, 2023 by Jotnar 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stargeezr Posted April 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2023 I was told by an ex Tesla owner. 8000 dollars for 4 new tires. He paid 1200 dollars to replace a rear light assembly. After 2 years he had shorter battery range, and had to travel at times with no heat, and no cooling just to make the destination. He now drives a hybrid vehicle. EV tech is not the answer unless the owner is only driving around the city, and has a second vehicle to go over 500 miles or 800 kms. per day. Harvey 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 more electric cars but we are not investing in more electric power plants? Put solar on the roof or build nuclear power plants or both 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sidneybear Posted April 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2023 Electric cars are like 3D television. A once in a generation fad that suckers people in but doesn't make sense. 1 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 10 hours ago, sidneybear said: Electric cars are like 3D television. A once in a generation fad that suckers people in but doesn't make sense. I seriously fear that once many are locked into EVs, we will start to see shortages and inflated prices for the very electric needed. It doesn't come easy or necessarily from clean sources. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidneybear Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 17 minutes ago, jacko45k said: I seriously fear that once many are locked into EVs, we will start to see shortages and inflated prices for the very electric needed. It doesn't come easy or necessarily from clean sources. Spot on. EVs are a rich man's toy, and do nothing to save the planet. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotnar Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 10 hours ago, sidneybear said: Electric cars are like 3D television. A once in a generation fad that suckers people in but doesn't make sense. 3D TVs died an early death, I think. EVs holding a 13% share of market & climbing https://www.ev-volumes.com/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotnar Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, sidneybear said: Spot on. EVs are a rich man's toy, and do nothing to save the planet. Cost the same as ICEs to buy, and less to operate. Far from rich person's toy. More toward the smart shopper, who invests their finances for future ROI, instead of flash materialism they have to throw money to maintain. Edited April 29, 2023 by Jotnar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidneybear Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 13 minutes ago, Jotnar said: 3D TVs died an early death, I think. EVs holding a 13% share of market & climbing https://www.ev-volumes.com/ They're being propped up by various carrot and stick government policies at the moment. Wait and see what happens when the public realises the true cost of Nut Zero and start throwing their governments out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidneybear Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, Jotnar said: the smart shopper, I agree that EVs may be practical for shopping and short runs, until you have to spend more than the car is worth on a replacement battery. Make sure you don't try to sell it second hand too, because it will be worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotnar Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, sidneybear said: They're being propped up by various carrot and stick government policies at the moment. Wait and see what happens when the public realises the true cost of Nut Zero and start throwing their governments out. Propped up, or, governments finally realizing the need to stop being controlled by the fossil fuel industry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidneybear Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Jotnar said: Propped up, or, governments finally realizing the need to stop being controlled by the fossil fuel industry. Show me an industry that doesn't lobby and donate to governments. They all do it, but the green industry is awash with subsidies and venture capital at the moment, until governments on the receiving end get forced out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sidneybear Posted April 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2023 (edited) Well, the newspapers here are full of stories about: people getting stranded; range anxiety; people waiting hours queuing for charging looking longingly at others filing up with petrol in 5 minutes; people wishing they hadn't bought one; people complaining about the astronomical prices of replacement batteries, and; people complaining about massive depreciation on second hand sales. You enjoy your EV, if you actually have one. I'll stick to my 270 HP turbo ICE that I can drive 500 km and fill up in five minutes. Edited April 30, 2023 by Pink Mist Replied to post removed 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotnar Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 20 minutes ago, sidneybear said: Well, the newspapers here are full of stories about: people getting stranded; range anxiety; people waiting hours queuing for charging looking longingly at others filing up with petrol in 5 minutes; people wishing they hadn't bought one; people complaining about the astronomical prices of replacement batteries, and; people complaining about massive depreciation on second hand sales. You enjoy your EV, if you actually have one. I'll stick to my 270 HP turbo ICE that I can drive 500 km and fill up in five minutes. Not in Thailand and seem like user error. If you ran out of petrol, would it be the cars fault ? 'if you even have one' 270 hp, useless materialism, sounds familiar Goodbye 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 55 minutes ago, Jotnar said: 3D TVs died an early death, I think. EVs holding a 13% share of market & climbing Yes, so far so good.... like Betamax, Cassettes and DVDs..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zzaa09 Posted April 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, sidneybear said: Electric cars are like 3D television. A once in a generation fad that suckers people in but doesn't make sense. In truth, the whole of the green ideal is little but a fashionable trend. Edited April 30, 2023 by zzaa09 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jotnar said: Not in Thailand and seem like user error. If you ran out of petrol, would it be the cars fault ? Be fair.... I might run out of fuel in a diesel truck after 1000 km, would an EV provide me such range to find a plug in point? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidneybear Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jotnar said: Not in Thailand and seem like user error. If you ran out of petrol, would it be the cars fault ? 'if you even have one' 270 hp, useless materialism, sounds familiar Goodbye Do you have one? I'm genuinely curious. And yes, that 270 HP of unabashed materialism does make me smile when I put my foot down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, sidneybear said: Well, the newspapers here are full of stories about: people getting stranded; range anxiety; people waiting hours queuing for charging looking longingly at others filing up with petrol in 5 minutes; people wishing they hadn't bought one; people complaining about the astronomical prices of replacement batteries, and; people complaining about massive depreciation on second hand sales. You enjoy your EV, if you actually have one. I'll stick to my 270 HP turbo ICE that I can drive 500 km and fill up in five minutes. And.....EVs have a quiet reputation for faulty electrical overheating causing unnecessary fires/damages. Yet, the manufacturers [nor government regulators] apparently don't want to redesign this common glitch. Edited April 30, 2023 by zzaa09 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotnar Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, jacko45k said: Be fair.... I might run out of fuel in a diesel truck after 1000 km, would an EV provide me such range to find a plug in point? Nothing worse than being behind a diesel vehicle on motorcycle or even a bicycle. Or walking if some idiot left it idling while parked. That fuel really should be banned, except for maybe the trucking industry, for now. Disgusting pollution, and you couldn't give me one. I prefer not to contribute. Why would anyone want to drive 1000 kms for pleasure ? All silly comparisons and arguments. If you like your ICE, I'm happy for you, as it pays the tax base, and probably gives me a tax break. I just prefer not to be behind you or live in a congested area with them spewing their pollution. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwood1 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 (edited) How Much Does an EV Battery Cost to Replace? EV battery replacements range from $5,000 to $20,000 based on the pack, size and manufacturer. https://www.recurrentauto.com/research/costs-ev-battery-replacement Also 55% depreciation within 3 years...... Edited April 30, 2023 by redwood1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post alien365 Posted April 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2023 More vehicles are registered as more Chinese vehicles enter the market. I don't have anything against electric vehicles in general, but I'll let others be the Guinea pigs for now. Everything is great new, but what are they like down the line? I'll stick with my diesel for now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwood1 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, redwood1 said: How Much Does an EV Battery Cost to Replace? EV battery replacements range from $5,000 to $20,000 based on the pack, size and manufacturer. https://www.recurrentauto.com/research/costs-ev-battery-replacement Also 55% depreciation within 3 years...... 20,000 dollars will come close to buying a new car... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Mist Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 Trolling and Baiting posts removed. Stay on topic and civil to each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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