Up days down days

[bignok]

Is it normal to feel great one day and lousy the next? Or could this be a sign of bi polar or depression? 

[cdemundo]

Physically or cognitively, or emotionally?

 

I think it's normal.

Doesn't mean we can't do anything about it.

I had a friend who would always say "Tomorrow will be better" when having a bad day.

I have adopted this simple practice and it helps me.

 

If you are thinking negatively you might look up "common cognitive distortions" on the web.

I went to a seminar on the "common cognitive distortions" for my work once and I learned a lot about

negative thinking leading to depressive moods.  Has helped me.

 

My belief is that as far as solutions to this kind of problem, everything works for somebody and

nothing works for everybody. 

So I would take the suggestions that seem helpful (by which I mean my suggestions LOL) and

don't worry about the ones that don't seem helpful.

 

Good luck to you.

 

 

[bignok]

1 minute ago, cdemundo said:

Physically or cognitively, or emotionally?

 

I think it's normal.

Doesn't mean we can't do anything about it.

I had a friend who would always say "Tomorrow will be better" when having a bad day.

I have adopted this simple practice and it helps me.

 

If you are thinking negatively you might look up "common cognitive distortions" on the web.

I went to a seminar on the "common cognitive distortions" for my work once and I learned a lot about

negative thinking leading to depressive moods.  Has helped me.

 

My belief is that as far as solutions to this kind of problem, everything works for somebody and

nothing works for everybody. 

So I would take the suggestions that seem helpful (by which I mean my suggestions LOL) and

don't worry about the ones that don't seem helpful.

 

Good luck to you.

 

 

Emotionally. Happy one day, disinterested the next. Physically Im fit.

[marin]

Could it be sleep? Do you notice any correlation to less sleep and mood? I do, for me I write it off as the aging process.  

[bignok]

Just now, marin said:

Could it be sleep? Do you notice any correlation to less sleep and mood? I do, for me I write it off as the aging process.  

Not really but I notice it more in the morning. At night I enjoy life. Mornings I don't have much interest in anything. Perhaps I'm just a night person.

[torturedsole]

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Is it normal to feel great one day and lousy the next? Or could this be a sign of bi polar or depression? 

I'm not a fan of assigning labels.

 

We all have bad days, but have to deal with them.

 

First stop is to identify what makes you unhappy. 

[bignok]

2 minutes ago, torturedsole said:

I'm not a fan of assigning labels.

 

We all have bad days, but have to deal with them.

 

First stop is to identify what makes you unhappy. 

Finding meaning and purpose is the issue. Many things don't bother me, more so many things lack purpose. I'm bothered by lack of action, meaning and fulfillment. 

 

What's the point of living in a crazy world? So much nonsense in the world.

[stoner]

13 minutes ago, bignok said:

Finding meaning and purpose is the issue. Many things don't bother me, more so many things lack purpose. I'm bothered by lack of action, meaning and fulfillment. 

 

What's the point of living in a crazy world? So much nonsense in the world.

no kids ? 

[steven100]

19 minutes ago, torturedsole said:

First stop is to identify what makes you unhappy.

at the end of every month when I have to pay my expensive hotel room ....

[steven100]

14 minutes ago, bignok said:

Finding meaning and purpose is the issue. Many things don't bother me, more so many things lack purpose. I'm bothered by lack of action, meaning and fulfillment. 

 

What's the point of living in a crazy world? So much nonsense in the world.

I tend to agree ....   I would much rather be back on the farm building fences and mustering cattle ....  I felt good then and I was doing something useful.      just saying ...    i miss those days

[Toolong]

AFAIK there aren't precise & measurable criteria by which you can determine whether feeling perfectly fine - even happy - one day and inexplicably feeling pretty sh***y the next, points to a particular problem up in the noggin or elsewhere, like hormonal imbalances, etc..

(All this assumes there are no external life-circumstances going on that might naturally trigger such feelings......such as  getting a pay rise one day and having to get a visa extension in Thailand the next. ????)

 

Bignok, I'm not making a joke of it. I genuinely sympathize. I've had 'the black dog' swings my whole life, so I offer my thoughts sincerely & with good intent & understanding.

Tbh, I wonder whether or not it might be something you could learn to live with, or accept, that it ain't far off being pretty normal tbh....... and unless it's unbearably extreme in its manifestation, I suggest you don't worry too much that there might be something terribly wrong with you . ????

 

 

 

 

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

34 minutes ago, bignok said:

Not really but I notice it more in the morning. At night I enjoy life. Mornings I don't have much interest in anything. Perhaps I'm just a night person.

It is fairly common for symptoms of depression to be worse in the morning and gradually subside during the day. 

 

If low mood is keeping you from doing what you enjoy, you might want to consider getting screened for depression.

[torturedsole]

15 minutes ago, steven100 said:

at the end of every month when I have to pay my expensive hotel room ....

Yes, there's the bills. They don't help. 

[torturedsole]

40 minutes ago, bignok said:

Not really but I notice it more in the morning. At night I enjoy life. Mornings I don't have much interest in anything. Perhaps I'm just a night person.

If you don't mind me asking, what's your alcohol and/or cigarette/weed consumption, if any?

[LaosLover]

A Buddhist perspective may be helpful here.

 

Your thoughts are like clouds, they come and go. They are not related to your bodhacita (true nature), they are merely empty phenomena just rolling by.

 

Note them, use them as a scoreboard for what you need to work on, but don't over-buy into them or self-identify with them.

 

Note the feeling tones. Are they warm or expansive? Do other senses come mentally to mind with specific emotions? What thoughts bring up what feeling tones (and vice versa)? What can you learn about yourself from that? Don't judge your moods, sit with them. And watch them wax and wane.

 

If your down days are not debilitating, just go with them; maybe plan for them.

 

You're mid-50's, right? Welcome to your future.

Edited May 12, 2023 by LaosLover

[Sheryl]

It is perfectly normal for moods/feelings to constantly change.

 

If the "downs" are so bad that you feel suicidal and/or unable to function, or if the "ups" involve going without sleep , nonstop talking and activity and doing reckless things that cause problems later, then you need to see a mental health professional.

 

Otherwise, it's probably just  normal ups and downs

 

 BPD usually has its first onset in the teens or twenties. A first time onset after age 50 would be unusual.

 

Are you drinking much, using "recreational" drugs, or taking sleep medication? All of these can cause emotional swings.

 

 

[Fat is a type of crazy]

I think you said you feel in love at the moment. That will exaggerate the ups and downs. You’ve got your own expectations and now hers to deal with. 

[bignok]

7 hours ago, torturedsole said:

If you don't mind me asking, what's your alcohol and/or cigarette/weed consumption, if any?

Nil smokes. Alcohol here and there. Feel worse after drinking.

[NightSky]

Try some physical exercise daily, walking or swimming or some weights maybe. 
 

i too have had periods of ‘down’ moments which tend to occur more at night rather than the day time.

 

finding a hobby, musical instrument, sport, business, cooking, craft, learn a new skill from YouTube or something to do of interest might be difficult but keep trying things hopefully you’ll find something’s that you can put your mind to. 
 

hope this helps somewhat?

Edited May 12, 2023 by NightSky

[bignok]

1 minute ago, NightSky said:

Try some physical exercise daily, walking or swimming or some weights maybe. 
 

if it’s any conciliation my ‘down’ moments are more at night rather than the day time.

 

finding a hobby, musical instrument, sport, business, cooking, craft, learn a new skill from YouTube or something to do of interest might be difficult but keep trying things hopefully you’ll find something’s that you can put your mind to. 
 

hope this helps somewhat?

I exercise daily.

[Woof999]

8 hours ago, bignok said:

What's the point of living in a crazy world? So much nonsense in the world.

Do something small each day to make your corner of the world slightly less crazy.

 

Find a new hobby. Try at least 1 thing new each week until you discover something that gives you new goals, new meaning, new invigoration.

 

Surround yourself with positive people (I can't even begin to explain how much of a difference this can make). Cut out the negatives in your life. You're not here to save the world, you're here to live your 1 life to the fullest extent possible.

 

Get off of the internet. It's not real. Got out in the the physical real world and meet real people. The ones that you can punch when they get in your face, or hug when they make your day.

 

If it all gets too much, give me a shout. I'm here today, tomorrow, next week, whenever you need me.

 

Take care bud.

[bignok]

1 minute ago, Woof999 said:

Do something small each day to make your corner of the world slightly less crazy.

 

Find a new hobby. Try at least 1 thing new each week until you discover something that gives you new goals, new meaning, new invigoration.

 

Surround yourself with positive people (I can't even begin to explain how much of a difference this can make). Cut out the negatives in your life. You're not here to save the world, you're here to live your 1 life to the fullest extent possible.

 

Get off of the internet. It's not real. Got out in the the physical real world and meet real people. The ones that you can punch when they get in your face, or hug when they make your day.

 

If it all gets too much, give me a shout. I'm here today, tomorrow, next week, whenever you need me.

 

Take care bud.

I try to avoid negative types but my best friend has turned negative due to bad woman. After listening to him whinge non stop for 2 hrs i feel lousy. He told me he has been miserable for 15 years. I had no idea. Hates his wife. Only stayed due to kid. He cant leave without a settlement. Im trying to help him but cant stand listening to it. My other best friend lives far away.

 

 

[Furioso]

8 hours ago, bignok said:

Finding meaning and purpose is the issue. Many things don't bother me, more so many things lack purpose. I'm bothered by lack of action, meaning and fulfillment. 

 

 

I have the same issue, for quite some time too. I've slowed down, mainly due to laziness, which I think is a big part of the problem. I used to jog/run a lot. I'd train for weeks and months to enter a 10km or half marathon. It really took me out of my comfort zone, which in hindsight was a great thing.

 

I see joggers on the side of the road, I want to yell at them to stop rolling their shoulders.

 

I've tried other sports, but they aren't as fulfilling as running 4 or 5 times a week, trying to improve time, find better running shoes, trying a different route, setting up a travel schedule for the next event. A lot of it is a big pain in the <deleted>, I get grumpy, dirty, sweaty, smelly, angry about all the costs involved and I still can't break the 2 hour point.

 

But I have no choice, I have to start running again. Probably until the day I die. 

[Woof999]

3 minutes ago, bignok said:

I try to avoid negative types but my best friend has turned negative due to bad woman. After listening to him whinge non stop for 2 hrs i feel lousy. He told me he has been miserable for 15 years. I had no idea. Hates his wife. Only stayed due to kid. He cant leave without a settlement. Im trying to help him but cant stand listening to it. My other best friend lives far away.

 

 

Perfect. You already know who to punch. Now find those that are worthy of a hug.

[1FinickyOne]

8 hours ago, bignok said:

Finding meaning and purpose is the issue. Many things don't bother me, more so many things lack purpose. I'm bothered by lack of action, meaning and fulfillment. 

 

What's the point of living in a crazy world? So much nonsense in the world.

Is there another choice? We all live in our own world to a great extent... maybe increase your percent. 

 

"Mr. Burns, you must come back to reality,"

"I'll go, but only as a tourist." - -

1000 Clowns

 

Many many years ago, a lady friend and I used to discuss meaning and purpose... then she bumped into an old friend who used to have. similar conversations w/her... the friend told her that once she had kids, she stopped thinking about meaning and purpose. And I have felt the same in my life - as I get on, and lose interest, 'been there done that' style... I still need to take care of my wife and kid. 

[bignok]

How do you find meaning in a world where most people are morons?

[1FinickyOne]

14 minutes ago, Furioso said:

I get grumpy, dirty, sweaty, smelly, angry

Yeah, this running stuff never sounded like fun... 

[1FinickyOne]

Just now, bignok said:

How do you find meaning in a world where most people are morons?

There are others who are extremely bright and interesting... and even then some just on certain subjects... sounds like maybe you are expecting too much from too many. 

[Furioso]

4 minutes ago, bignok said:

How do you find meaning in a world where most people are morons?

First thing you gotta dump that super negative friend. 

[swm59nj]

Normalcy would depend on how often it occurs and severity.  And also any other symptoms that go along with it