Myanmar junta says it will rethink relationship with Thailand

[Enzian]

4 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Does not treat them to what ?

I think he means Burma's dictatorship does not threaten Thailand, but that's questionable in all sorts of ways. I doubt any country wants a failed state next door, and Burma is getting close. Further, the crimes against humanity are egregious, and the "international community" doesn't know what to do, and Asean doesn't know what to do. The solution may have to come from within, but like Ukraine, those within resisting will need help. Is Thailand helping?

[MrMojoRisin]

32 minutes ago, h90 said:

I speak about Thailands politics against Myanmar....Myanmars dictatorship does not treat Thailand so there is no appeasement. Thais voted, but foreign politics was not a topic in the election.

Foreign policy was not a topic in the election?

 

From a pre-election interview:

 

During a recent interview with the Standard, Pita Limjaroenrat, the leader and prime ministerial candidate of the Move Forward Party, pointed out that “international relations was less about choosing sides than choosing principle” because “the new world order is no world order.” Pita explicitly “promised to move fundamental rights to the front of Thailand’s foreign policy.” 

[h90]

26 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Foreign policy was not a topic in the election?

 

From a pre-election interview:

 

During a recent interview with the Standard, Pita Limjaroenrat, the leader and prime ministerial candidate of the Move Forward Party, pointed out that “international relations was less about choosing sides than choosing principle” because “the new world order is no world order.” Pita explicitly “promised to move fundamental rights to the front of Thailand’s foreign policy.” 

OK I stay corrected in this....

[onthedarkside]

Off topic attempt to derail the thread has been removed. This is not about the US or the West's democracy

[spidermike007]

General Soe Win is a genocidal terrorist, and a madman serial killer. Of course he is going to feel threatened by a neighbor with forward thinking policies. And of course he would have been more comfortable with the extremely regressive Thai army, and backward dinosaurs like Cha Cha. Too bad. If he wants to isolate their ugly regime further, it is on him. History will remember these maniacs.

[Dmitry2222]

6 hours ago, CANSIAM said:

Of course its alarming for Myanmar that Thailand's Democracy door is opening.........

The problem is that such democracy causes wars everywhere in the world.

[Purdey]

Who do you think you are kidding Mr. Soe Win,

if you think that Thailand's done?

We will have a submarine that will stop your little game

We may not have the F35 that will make you think again

But 

Who do you think you are kidding Mr. Soe Win,

if you think that Thailand's done?

 

 

[mark131v]

6 hours ago, h90 said:

not yet premier and already the first damage done

Yes much better to keep on with the Thai junta and ignore the will of the people so they don't upset the military dictatorship next door, sad very, very sad...

[Sydebolle]

I rather read an "endorsement" of the junta brothers who ran Thailand over the last nine years - a certain quality in the Burmese statement ....... 

[chilli42]

6 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

Does this mean that the jade sales to Thailand may be halted??...

… LPG next?  That would get some attention.

[MrJ2U]

4 hours ago, smedly said:

no big loss

It's horrible for the people who we're finally enjoying prosperity and freedom under Aung San SUU Kyi.

 

It's absolutely beautiful country that not unlike Thailand keeps having the military come in and overthrow the electric governments.

 

What a sad history. 

[h90]

1 minute ago, chilli42 said:

… LPG next?  That would get some attention.

Thailand is importing gas from Myanmar, or? I read that a long time ago so it might have changed.

[MrJ2U]

8 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

I feel sad for all of the ethnic groups in Myanmar. This is turning into a humanitarian crisis.

It already is.  Thailand's current junta keeps throwing them back across the border.   

[h90]

Just now, MrJ2U said:

It's horrible for the people who we're finally enjoying prosperity and freedom under Aung San SUU Kyi.

 

It's absolutely beautiful country that not unlike Thailand keeps having the military come in and overthrow the electric governments.

 

What a sad history. 

We had a staff from the very west of Myanmar...he equally hated Aung San SUU Kyi and the military....but he had softened on the military because they helped against the Rohingya (his words not mine)...but he still hates them. He actually hated every other ethnic of Myanmar....I guess not easy to get peace there.

[Andycoops]

What a crass statement.

It's the Thais who are rethinking the relationship with the butcher's from Burma.

After years of the despicable Thai army running the country being in cahoots with their butchering cronies, it's about time Thailand stood up for something other than the slaughter of the innocent and democratic principles, neither of which Too and his Muppets ever did.

[kidneyw]

9 hours ago, webfact said:

The second most powerful man in the Myanmar regime, General Soe Win, warned his troops that Thailand’s likely new government was ‘pro West’ and would help the ‘terrorists’ operating in his country, according to The Irrawaddy newspaper.

Time to stock up on those fighter jets and subs.

[Marco51]

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

General Soe Win is a genocidal terrorist, and a madman serial killer. Of course he is going to feel threatened by a neighbor with forward thinking policies. And of course he would have been more comfortable with the extremely regressive Thai army, and backward dinosaurs like Cha Cha. Too bad. If he wants to isolate their ugly regime further, it is on him. History will remember these maniacs.

 

3 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Foreign policy was not a topic in the election?

 

From a pre-election interview:

 

During a recent interview with the Standard, Pita Limjaroenrat, the leader and prime ministerial candidate of the Move Forward Party, pointed out that “international relations was less about choosing sides than choosing principle” because “the new world order is no world order.” Pita explicitly “promised to move fundamental rights to the front of Thailand’s foreign policy.” 

Dangerous man, next he will choose to give Uighurs and Tibetans refugee status and endanger all the piles of Baht coming from the evil empire.

[spidermike007]

2 hours ago, Dmitry2222 said:

The problem is that such democracy causes wars everywhere in the world.

So, stick with authoritarian, fascist, communist or genocidal leadership? Better? 

[Robert Tyrrell]

Good Afternoon,

 

I fully open the door to Democracy , I see a lot people here questioning Thailand’s motive?? 
As for weaponry and wanted to buy newer technology, Thailands has decades old equipment it’s absolutely normal to be looking to purchase and of course a Junta would belly ache it’s a threat to there oppressive ways !!
Look at China ???????? And Russia ???????? Would you prefer there ways !!?? I think not !! That goes for Junta’s , Dictator’s and other Oppressors, WE DON’T WANT IT !! 

[Pink Mist]

Off topic posts and replies removed. Stay civil and on-topic.

 

The OP is:

 

Myanmar junta says it will rethink relationship with Thailand

[Aussie999]

5 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Nope Mike, the abbreviation for Prime Minister is either P.M. or Pr. Min.

 

Premier, is the accepted abbreviation for President; so if your assumption about what he meant is correct, then he believes that Thailand has a President rather than a Prime Minister, which you, of course, know to be incorrect

 

Agree with your assessment of the Burmese generals one hundred percent; genocide on an enormous scale, much of it unreported in the MSM.

Mate... just why are you being so pedantic, or are you just argumentative. 

Edited May 26, 2023 by Aussie999

[MrJ2U]

Now I understand why Thailand needs obsolete submarines with the wrong engines. 

[hotchilli]

9 hours ago, webfact said:

Myanmar’s military government said this week that it would have to rethink its relationship with Thailand following statements made by the next prime minister-elect of Thailand following his election victory, according to local media

One country sorted out by it's people voice, if only Myanmar had a fair chance at the ballot box instead of life on the wrong end of a barrel.

[hotchilli]

8 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

This is turning into a humanitarian crisis.

Turned... past tense.

[KCPhuket]

8 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

I feel sad for all of the ethnic groups in Myanmar. This is turning into a humanitarian crisis.

Long time already

[rudi49jr]

6 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

Does this mean that the jade sales to Thailand may be halted??...

I think most jade comes from Shan state, so the Myanmar junta has no say in that.

[AustinRacing]

Do you have a choice?

[johnnybangkok]

6 hours ago, h90 said:

Thailand has a lot border trade with people on the other side...and these aren't the richest of the society.

The job of the government is to come along with the neighbors....not warmongering and being terrorists. No matter if the neighbor has a government they don't like.

Lao is communist dictatorship, Cambodia is not really democratic in Malaysia is the Sharia. Biggest trading partner is China a communist dictatorship, another big partner is USA, the worst warmonger and state terrorist on the planet. Should Thailand be hostile to all of them? Or rather be neutral and do business?

Thailands exports to Myanmar total approx. $4 billion (https://tradingeconomics.com/thailand/exports/myanmar). Myanmar ranks 16th in the list of top Thailand export countries (https://tradingeconomics.com/thailand/exports-by-country) and although not insignificant, it doesn't even make the top 10 and is only 1.6% of Thailands total exports. The difference with the other 15 countries ahead of it though are none of them are currently committing genocide on their own people. This I would argue supercedes 1.6% of total exports - a fact many on this forum agree with and hopefully so does the new incoming PM.     

[mberbae]

But of course. With China licking its chops in ousting Democracy from

Myanmar, Thailand will be the next domino, although that may take some'

time.  Any attempt to help the Resistance in Myanmar will not sit well with

them.

[spidermike007]

This could be the beginning of a very good thing. If you think about it, it is not like the relationship with the junta here resulted in anything positive for the Burmese people. So, by isolating them, and denying them whatever degree of legitimacy they had, by being "friends" with Thailand, makes them even more of a pariah. Of course, they could use Thailand's dependence on their natural gas against Thailand. But, I am sure there is enough gas available elsewhere. And since Thailand owns an 80% share in the Zawtika gas field, it would be extremely risky for Burma to play that card. It may also force the nation to become less dependent on natural gas for power, which now stands at around 60% of the nation's power. Already, since 2017 and 2021, Thailand's imports of gas from Burma has dropped from 17% to 15% of it's total. 

 

https://asian-power.com/power-utility/news/thailand-gas-imports-myanmar-drop-15-in-2021-report

 

When the Burmese army says they are uninterested in politics, that is total BS. They are power hungry thugs. Utter pigs and despots. The multi billionaire generals are thieves, robbing the people of their gems, their timber, their minerals and selling heroin for the sake of amassing wealth. And supported by extremist Buddhist monks against the minorities. Broken men. With their recent overthrow, they have self revoked the right to consume oxygen. May the Myanmar youth prevail! May the dinosaurs be pushed out. A pox on their families. A terrorist army.

Edited May 26, 2023 by spidermike007