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Trump vows to end birthright citizenship for children of unauthorized immigrants if he wins in 2024


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1 minute ago, johnnybangkok said:

Nothing to say about defrauding his own charity?

Thought so.

Don't know anything about it. Your story not mine. The law is a bad law and should be changed. Doesn't matter who proposed it. Your bias is clouding your judgement of bad laws.

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Just now, bignok said:

Don't know anything about it. Your story not mine. The law is a bad law and should be changed. Doesn't matter who proposed it. Your bias is clouding your judgement of bad laws.

Here you go. Educate yourself.

 

https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2019/donald-j-trump-pays-court-ordered-2-million-illegally-using-trump-foundation

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1 minute ago, johnnybangkok said:

I don't think you should start down the 'morally wrong' road. It vdoesn't have a good ending for you.

I have no idea what you are talking about. It is wrong for couples to go country shopping.

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2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Doubtful.

It's a low priority issue.

Immigration in general is a big issue, but the birthright part is not. 

I think it wins votes. Same area of policy. Immigration is big.

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23 minutes ago, lextsy said:

It was a point to show the same system is in place all over the world and its become pretty obvious the hate is directed at trump only not really anything else.  Much like how people used to toot their horn about how elon musk was the bees knees and now hes a scumbag righty trump supporter..

But the same system is NOT in place all over the world. It is an "americas" thing, anachronistic now, but needed at the time in immigration-based nascent nations. 

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Just now, Jingthing said:

Trashing the constitution LOSES votes among decent Americans, traditional conservative republicans, independents, center right suburban women, etc. in the general election.

But he's running for the maga party nomination now.

The constitution needs fixing. Not trashing anything. Old bad laws need to be fixed. 

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1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Two Thais giving birth in the US, their child would be an american. 

People take advantage of this outdated law and most americans want it changed, apart from the woke who are scared of anything to do with immigration.

1.  Prove that "most americans want it changed".

 

2.  Rational people from across the political spectrum would be happy to improve the immigration laws.  However we recognize that immigrant scapegoating is too popular with irrational elected officials to ever get anything accomplished.

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1 hour ago, bignok said:

No it is about fixing a bad law. Bad laws should be fixed. People should not go travelling to have babies in order to get citizenship. It is wrong. Your bias is affecting your judgement.

As has been explained, it's not the law, it's the US Constitution.  If you can't grasp the significance of that there is no point in further discussion.

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4 hours ago, heybruce said:

Trump promises an executive order that overrules the US Constitution.

 

Is he that stupid, or does he assume his base is so stupid as to believe he can do that?

Probably a bit of both - maybe he assumes that the Supreme Court will dismiss any challenges...

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11 minutes ago, heybruce said:

As has been explained, it's not the law, it's the US Constitution.  If you can't grasp the significance of that there is no point in further discussion.

The Constitution is a higher law. Harder to change.

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"Law is interpreted by societal or political institution as a set of rules that are useful in governing the behaviour of the people of the land. A Constitution is the set of fundamental laws that stipulates how a country should be governed."

 

So still a law.

 

 

https://www.jagranjosh.com/general-knowledge/difference-between-the-constitution-and-the-law-1624455814-1

 

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45 minutes ago, heybruce said:

"It is wrong for couples to go country shopping."

 

Why?

so 2 people on holiday in canada that have a baby there should be entitled to the health care system that tax payers pay for ? 

 

amazing. 

 

daily we see posters on here mouthing off about foreigners in thailand caught in bad situations in hospitals with medical bills etc. 

 

but when it is swung back the other way its ok ?

 

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