Bangkok Barry Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Colabamumbai said: He knowingly bought srolen property How do you know that? The thief could have said it was his phone that he wanted to sell. I doubt that, instead, he asked if they would buy this phone he'd stolen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennw Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 9 hours ago, CharlieH said: You can talk to the shop and reach an agreement or go to the Police, make a formal report and ask them to accompany you to recover your property. But the police "report" may be more expensive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennw Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said: How do you know that? The thief could have said it was his phone that he wanted to sell. I doubt that, instead, he asked if they would buy this phone he'd stolen. Then the seller/thief should be able to unlock the phone in front of the buyer (of stolen goods) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 13 minutes ago, kennw said: Then the seller/thief should be able to unlock the phone in front of the buyer (of stolen goods) Assuming it was locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caldera Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 A shop owner who buys a locked iPhone surely knows that it was stolen and buys stolen property routinely, so I'd be cautious when dealing with him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimTripper Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) Goto the shop and tell them it’s stolen and you want it back. That’s it. Tell them it’s traceable and all your info is on it. You have it on the map now. Unlock it there to show it’s yours, but re-lock it before you hand it back. You could also call the phone from another phone to show it’s yours if it rings or has notifications enabled. don’t mention money, just stall, they don’t know what to do, but know it can be traced there, they are smiling but sweating inside, because they know they are profiting from stolen merchandise… Edited June 6, 2023 by JimTripper 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexxter Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 If it was my phone I would be asking to shop owner to hold it for me while I rush to the shop. I would be paying the 2000 baht and consider myself lucky to have my phone back. It is not just the physical phone that is important to me but also the contents, all my photos, contacts, apps, etc. I do have a lot of stuff on my phone backed up elsewhere but it would till be a major time-consuming hassle to buy a new phone and try to remember all the installed apps and content. 2000 baht to save a lot of time and effort, as well as the cost of a new phone is most certainly worth it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Theory Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 13 hours ago, abaganov2 said: My iphone got stolen Who stole your phone ? Do you know the thief ? why didn't you report it ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) Go to the shop, tell him you want your phone back. See how he reacts. If he wants more money than you want to pay, tell him you get the police involved and they will check every item in his shop if it is stolen or not and will come back every month until he gives the names and address of the thieves involved with the stolen items. Edited June 6, 2023 by FritsSikkink 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevemercer Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 So did the OP get his phone back? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted June 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: Go to the shop, tell him you want your phone back. See how he reacts. If he wants more money than you want to pay, tell him you get the police involved and they will check every item in his shop if it is stolen or not and will come back every month until he gives the names and address of the thieves involved with the stolen items. Please tell us where to find such police officer who "will check every item in his shop if it is stolen or not and will come back every month". It's amazing how many people in this thread think the shop owner will be scared when someone mentions the police. Who or what gives you that idea? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigma6 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 13 hours ago, abaganov2 said: with find my phone app, 4 hours ago, Troy Tempest said: Both Android and iOS have built-in tracking features that allow you to locate your phone remotely. These features work even if your phone doesn't have a SIM card, as long as it's connected to Wi-Fi. Find my iphone requires a data connection. If a phone is stolen normally the first thing the thief does is remove the sim card. To join a new wifi network the phone needs to be unlocked - so its unlikely that at the shop the phone had a data connection, hence my asking - unless; The phone was using an esim which would then need unlocking to disable it The phone auto logged in to a known public WiFi. Turning the phone off would prevent these 2 possibilities. Find my iphone is very good, but precise location is hard in people dense areas, especially indoors such as a shopping mall, in which case you would know which mall, but it would be quite tricky to identify which floor, which shop. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FritsSikkink Posted June 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2023 31 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: Please tell us where to find such police officer who "will check every item in his shop if it is stolen or not and will come back every month". It's amazing how many people in this thread think the shop owner will be scared when someone mentions the police. Who or what gives you that idea? Got a couple of family members and friends who will gladly do the favor. They will be scared. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo1968 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Slightly off t topic, I misplaced my iPhone in Dubai airport, think I left it in security, I tracked it using Find my Phone, emailed Dubai Security with a Google map showing its location, no reply. I sent an email to one of the travel correspondents in the National press in the U.K. Dubai Airport must have read it, I got my phone replaced next time I went through the airport, met with a couple of Arabs in white ‘suits’ presented with the new phone then escorted to the Business Lounge. I got here, phone wouldn’t work, contacted Dubai Airport, next trip there was a replacement phone waiting for me, both iPhones were upgrades from the one I misplaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigma6 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 7 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: A question to the expert iPhone users: What can a shop do with a bricked iPhone? I saw lots of videos from Louis Rossman, who is an electronic specialist, who concentrates on Apple products. It seems to be my now almost everything on those phones in serialized, so it is not even possible to use parts from a bricked phone to repair other phones. Or not? A few parts could be used, like the screen, speakers, mics etc. Nothing on the motherboard. Its worth a fraction of its value bricked. It may be possible now to unbrick an iPhone, but I think its technically pretty hard, and the phone is severely hobbled - like you need to re-jailbreak it to reboot the phone - so most people wouldnt buy into this. Thats the worst part of having your 40k phone nicked; knowing they gonna make maybe 3k from it.... Which is why i suggested he buys is back from the shop - its possible the shop is involved in the theft, at the minimum he knowingly buys stolen goods - but if he did actually pay for the stolen goods, he won't want to lose that money. For me its worth 2k to get all my pics and data back with my phone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 5 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said: 7 hours ago, Colabamumbai said: He knowingly bought srolen property How do you know that? The thief could have said it was his phone that he wanted to sell. I doubt that, instead, he asked if they would buy this phone he'd stolen. Easy to know with an iPhone.... Just turn it on... If the owner can log in and access the phone, reset it etc for the owner, then its obviously their phone (or they know the access codes at least). IF the phone cannot be opened (i.e. the seller can’t login / get access to the phone), its not their Phone and the shop owner is knowingly purchasing something which is likely stolen goods. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 48 minutes ago, Stevemercer said: So did the OP get his phone back? I’d like to know the answer to this too... What is the end result.. a Lost or stolen phone is something which could happen to any of us. I’m able to wipe the data remotely, so security is not such a great concern - But, I’d want my phone back. So... It would be useful to know how the Op went about resolving this issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ54 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Coppers May not ask for money….. a few weeks back a lady left her phone in a taxi or Tuk Tuk they did a find my phone and located the Tuk Tuk… if I remember correctly driver said he didn’t have it until the coppers knew it was in the taxi… she got it back without coppers fee… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geisha Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 I’d go with someone if I were you and make an offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 14 minutes ago, DJ54 said: Coppers May not ask for money….. a few weeks back a lady left her phone in a taxi or Tuk Tuk they did a find my phone and located the Tuk Tuk… if I remember correctly driver said he didn’t have it until the coppers knew it was in the taxi… she got it back without coppers fee… Yup... They’re not all bad and many of us have been helped by the Police from time to time. I recall breaking down on the expressway (in Bangkok) and they were very helpful at ‘getting’ the lane blocked and getting the car towed off the expressway... Part of their Job of course. I’ve also had fair dealings with the BiB when involved in a car accident. However... I'd still have very low expectations if walking into a station and asking for assistance with something such as theft of a phone or theft at my house etc without pulling strings and using connections to get them off their backsides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Removed an incomprehensible troll post (LOFS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Rice Balls Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 If he wont give it back stand outside everyday with a big sign saying this shop sells stolen phones!! also leave a forever review on google maps....hit him in his wallet and reputation.. be able to prove its your phone prior! ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Rice Balls Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 sidenote with my android find phone app i can LOCK the device and include message....making it a brick......so you could tell him the phone wont work unless hes savvy it was quite tricky getting back into my phone as some kid tried to take mine once and i got it back.....verification and etc to prove it was me getting back into my own phone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Sticky Rice Balls said: If he wont give it back stand outside everyday with a big sign saying this shop sells stolen phones!! also leave a forever review on google maps....hit him in his wallet and reputation.. be able to prove its your phone prior! ???? Because the effort and time is worth that and there are no ridiculous defamation laws in Thailand, right ????... Depending on the shop and how its handled etc... I may be inclined to offer a ‘small something’ to receive the return of my phone etc... BUT... a person would be well within their rights just to look at the phone, confirm that it is theirs... and then say “Thanks, this is mine, I’m taking it”... if the owner doesn’t like that, he’s free to call the Police. Another option of course is to ask whether or not the Owner has a copy of the Sellers ID... Its up to the owner to report receipt of a stolen item to the Police, but I suspect the shop knew the phone was stolen, otherwise he’d be able to ‘open it’... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Rice Balls Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 13 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: Because the effort and time is worth that and there are no ridiculous defamation laws in Thailand, right ????... Depending on the shop and how its handled etc... I may be inclined to offer a ‘small something’ to receive the return of my phone etc... BUT... a person would be well within their rights just to look at the phone, confirm that it is theirs... and then say “Thanks, this is mine, I’m taking it”... if the owner doesn’t like that, he’s free to call the Police. Another option of course is to ask whether or not the Owner has a copy of the Sellers ID... Its up to the owner to report receipt of a stolen item to the Police, but I suspect the shop knew the phone was stolen, otherwise he’d be able to ‘open it’... its not defamation if its true..hence my post about being able to prove it prior.... truth needs no support...telling lies is another story......so thai law would say selling a stolen phone is making the seller look bad??? id call that bluff if it were my phone.... and ive left reviews on google maps based on facts and my exps...still there years later...(im not foolish enough to leave my identity on those reviews as well-but they are facts) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Rice Balls Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 3 hours ago, FritsSikkink said: Go to the shop, tell him you want your phone back. See how he reacts. If he wants more money than you want to pay, tell him you get the police involved and they will check every item in his shop if it is stolen or not and will come back every month until he gives the names and address of the thieves involved with the stolen items. id be outside daily telling customers walking in...id get MY phone back....and dont these shops require an ID to buy used phones or are they in on the "heist"..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Rice Balls Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Youtube-tik tok--facebook can be valuable tools...the internet is forever.......tell him that wear a mask too cos of the dust/covid! ???? hat protects the sun too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth1a2a Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Sticky Rice Balls said: also leave a forever review on google maps....hit him in his wallet and reputation.. Even if you're right, there could be an unexpected consequence to punishing a pirate in Thailand. US man spends two nights in jail for writing negative review of Thailand hotel https://www.indiatoday.in/trending-news/story/us-man-spends-two-nights-in-jail-for-review-of-thailand-hotel-faces-up-to-seven-years-in-prison-1728191-2020-10-04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Sticky Rice Balls said: 1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said: Because the effort and time is worth that and there are no ridiculous defamation laws in Thailand, right ????... Depending on the shop and how its handled etc... I may be inclined to offer a ‘small something’ to receive the return of my phone etc... BUT... a person would be well within their rights just to look at the phone, confirm that it is theirs... and then say “Thanks, this is mine, I’m taking it”... if the owner doesn’t like that, he’s free to call the Police. Another option of course is to ask whether or not the Owner has a copy of the Sellers ID... Its up to the owner to report receipt of a stolen item to the Police, but I suspect the shop knew the phone was stolen, otherwise he’d be able to ‘open it’... Expand its not defamation if its true..hence my post about being able to prove it prior.... truth needs no support...telling lies is another story......so thai law would say selling a stolen phone is making the seller look bad??? id call that bluff if it were my phone.... and ive left reviews on google maps based on facts and my exps...still there years later...(im not foolish enough to leave my identity on those reviews as well-but they are facts) Thailands defamation laws are cloudy and the truth is not always considered a valid defence. Under Thailand Criminal code (section 330) Truth is not a defence if such imputation concerns personal matters and such proof will not be of benefit to the public. I do agree though - leave anonymous reviews... Better still, just rock up and get the phone back. I’m not sure what can stop the owner (Op) walking away with his phone - obviously gauge the situation. Once he has ‘his phone’ in his hand, he is in the position to make the right decision - Take a Thai with him and if he faces any grief, call the police at the first hint of escalation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Sticky Rice Balls said: id be outside daily telling customers walking in...id get MY phone back....and dont these shops require an ID to buy used phones or are they in on the "heist"..... Would you pay any attention to a Westerner standing outside a mall or shop telling people not to use it ???.... I’d just think the fool has a screw loose and just ignore him. It takes a certain type of nut to make a public nuisance of themselves over such matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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