32 minutes ago, snowgard said:

they can work very well

I am sure they can - if they have some motivation.

 

But then, they are also great in doing nothing. That is often documented in the news.

 

It's all a question of motivation. Now tell us, why would they be motivated to solve this Apple phone crime with high motivation here and now? 

22 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I am sure they can - if they have some motivation.

 

But then, they are also great in doing nothing. That is often documented in the news.

 

It's all a question of motivation. Now tell us, why would they be motivated to solve this Apple phone crime with high motivation here and now? 

Because it's their job & if they don't done it right they end up in Yala or a village at the burmese border. 

suggestions:

talk to the shop owner and prove that the phone is yours. this is easy if they still not hacked it because you can use the pin code to open it. You said you called them already so it means they are aware of the situation which means they shouldnt hack it. Tell him you want it back. Most likely he will ask that 2500 baht back. If hes really a nice person he will give it to you for free.

 

here you have options. you can try to bargain with him some middle way payment or pay him fully or tell him you will go to the police and do the report. I would chose second one. Go to the shop with a very polite and friendly face. keep saying thank you thank you.. Just offer them 1500 baht as a thank they found your phone. They also know its illegal to buy stolen item. 

 

now.. if they hack the phone it means it will be 70% gone. it wont be easy for you to prove its your unless you have the receive of the product. Because in the documents of the product has the phone codes. so you can prove again. If you dont have them.. i would say its almost impossible after hack.

 

well.. last hope option is go to the police and make a report and tell them you know where it is. Go with the cops prove the phone is yours (use your pin to open or documentation). There are few options there with the police for you. if you want justice, report the shop as well. because again its illegal to buy a stolen item. 

 

 

 

 

10 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

How long do you live in Thailand?

What is your experience with the Thai police?

Are they keen to serve and protect individual people?

What you describe might work in a country where the police cares. Thailand is not such a country.

 

If the owner of the phone likes to continue to use an expensive Apple phone, then he has two options: Buy an old one or buy a new one. In this case his old phone will be the cheapest alternative - if it is still in the shop.

15 years in Thailand so I am not clueless. Speak the language fluently. Have made official complaints to the police twice. Once was theft. The other was for threats made against my ex

wife. Both times the police were proactive. Never event a hint of

not doing anything or asking for money. 

Dear me I want to unsubscribe from this topic as it’s getting boring but I want to know what happened about his iPhone

SEE MY PM

3 hours ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

....and dont these shops require an ID to buy used phones or are they in on the "heist".....

Its a valid point - I don't think proof of ID is required by law to sell expensive items (tech)... but really, it should be....

 

But, as you alluded to... I don't quite think the shop owners are ‘in on the heist’ but they are surely aware they are handling stolen property and just don’t care as the risks of getting caught and consequences are minimal.

 

 

just get em to block it so it cant be used or sold

14 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

A question to the expert iPhone users: What can a shop do with a bricked iPhone?

iPhones are not usually bricked, but if (as is almost certain) it is locked to the Apple ID the only value is for scrap as only the AppleID holder can unlock it, this applies to all current iPhones and for several generations before, I don’t recall exactly when this was first introduced but do recall that the incidence of iPhones being stolen dramatically dropped 

 

7 hours ago, Sigma6 said:

It may be possible now to unbrick an iPhone, but I think its technically pretty hard, and the phone is severely hobbled - like you need to re-jailbreak it to reboot the phone - so most people wouldnt buy into this.

An AppleID locked phone can not be unlocked. You can buy hundreds of AppleID locked motherboards usually for well under $5 each in Shenzhen, you can be sure that if they could be unlocked they would be in iPhones and there would be a thriving trade in stolen iPhones, there is no such trade.

 

The only people who can get useful data from some iPhones are those who can spend tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands on the job. It is not economically viable.

21 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

call Apple. They might be interested to know which shops are buying stolen phone(s). And maybe they will help you.

Yeah, right, what's it got to do with them?

15 hours ago, Colabamumbai said:

He knowingly bought srolen property, have him give the phone or busted. 

How can you categorically state that he knew that it was stolen before the OP told him?  He said that he bought a locked phone, not a stolen phone.

Edited June 6, 20233 yr by Liverpool Lou

15 hours ago, MrJ2U said:

The guys buying stolen property.   Obviously he couldn't break into it to factory reset it. He's freaking criminal. 

"The guys buying stolen property".

  Is he?  All you know is that he bought one locked phone that has since turned out to be stolen, you don't know anything about his previous business practices.

15 hours ago, bendejo said:

Doesn't Apple have a way to shut the phone down?

 

If it did you would have heard about it, don't you think?

Removed some silly, unhelpful replies.

7 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

Got a couple of family members and friends who will gladly do the favor. They will be scared.

So have you PM'd the OP to tell him you can sort it?

3 hours ago, Jumbo1968 said:

No idea why he doesn’t just go to the shop, what’s he scared of ?

Where did he say that he was scared and wouldn't be going to the shop?  His OP stated that the owner of the shop had arranged to meet him the next morning when the shop was open.

1 hour ago, cnx1204 said:

SEE MY PM

Haven't received it, can you resend it, please?

Edited June 6, 20233 yr by Liverpool Lou

1 hour ago, 3NUMBAS said:

just get em to block it so it cant be used or sold

Get who to "block" it?

21 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

How can you categorically state that he knew that it was stolen before the OP told him?  He said that he bought a locked phone, not a stolen phone.

16 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

"The guys buying stolen property".

  Is he?  All you know is that he bought one locked phone that has since turned out to be stolen, you don't know anything about his previous business practices.

 

These are Perfect examples of Liverpool Lou... being, erm... so very 'Liverpool Lou'...

Your responses are so obtuse you're deserving of your own adjective... 

 

IF someone in the 'phone industry' is purchasing an iPhone that is locked - they know its stolen, unless they area utterly gullible fools.

 

I very much doubt they are as obtuse in arguing.... "but the seller didn't say the phone was stolen, so there is no proof"  !!!! 

 

 

 

 

 

9 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Where did he say that he was scared and wouldn't be going to the shop?  His OP stated that the owner of the shop had arranged to meet him the next morning when the shop was open.

Why is he asking for advice then ?

9 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Where did he say that he was scared and wouldn't be going to the shop?  His OP stated that the owner of the shop had arranged to meet him the next morning when the shop was open.

As the thread started yesterday... (Monday evening) the next day is (was) today... 

 

Thus, the Op 'should' have his phone back by now... or a story about how he couldn't get his phone back. 

Just now, richard_smith237 said:

As the thread started yesterday... (Monday evening) the next day is (was) today... 

I'm aware of that, I can read.

Troll  post and petty bickering removed.

7 hours ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

its not defamation if its true.

Defemation laws are really arcane.  So many stories of people getting sued even for telling the truth. 

 

"American faces prison in Thailand over bad hotel review"

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/29/american-wesley-barnes-faces-prison-thailand-bad-hotel-review#:~:text=Defamation is a criminal offence,baht (£4%2C915) fine.

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Yeah, right, what's it got to do with them?

Apple might be interested in suppliers of "used parts". They don't want that any such parts are available for independent repair shops. So maybe they would help to prosecute that shop.

It's just an idea. One phone call to find out. Worst case they say (a polite version of): we don't care. 

Give unlock code phone to shopowner. 100 baht scored.

offer to pay him the money....case closed....

8 minutes ago, h90 said:

offer to pay him the money....case closed....

Are you an actual real judge ???....   I'm just wondering why you are closing this legal case... 

@abaganov2

 

Put us out of our misery please, what happened?!

????????