A bank account linked to President Biden's son Hunter Biden received more than $5 million in August 2017, shortly after his threatening messages — in which he said he was "sitting here" with his father — to a Chinese associate revealed this week by an IRS whistleblower, according to documents released by congressional investigators.  

On Aug. 4, 2017, Chinese firm CEFC Infrastructure Investment wired $100,000 to Hunter Biden’s law firm Owasco, according to a 2020 report published by the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. Then, days later on Aug. 8, 2017, CEFC Infrastructure Investment sent $5 million to Hudson West III, a firm Hunter Biden opened with Chinese associates.

The two transactions totaling $5.1 million came within 10 days of messages uncovered Thursday by the House Ways and Means Committee. In the messages — shared to the panel via IRS whistleblower Gary Shapley Jr., who oversaw the agency's probe into Hunter Biden — Hunter Biden blasted business partner Henry Zhao for not fulfilling his "commitment" and said his father was with him.

 

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Conservative outlets are saying that both Hunter Biden and Joe Biden each received $ 5 million (for a total of ten million).

 

The same outlets are alleging that Classified documents hoarded by Joe Biden at UDel describe these transactions.

 

IMO the House should immediately start an Impeachment.

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0Pw9EJcq10

 

 

It sounds like this is nothing new, the same old 1023('s). simply re-packaged.

 

It feels like if they had anything real they'd push forward with an impeachment. If they don't then that speaks volumes.

Prove it to me ,to me it reeks of diversion away from Donald’s REAL indictments still attacking a recovering addict and the only surviving son just disgusting.prove it or stop with the slander……

More faux news propaganda. Give it a rest and stop posting all the drivel coming out of that cesspool. 

1 hour ago, bamnutsak said:

Conservative outlets are saying that both Hunter Biden and Joe Biden each received $ 5 million (for a total of ten million).

Jail them!

18 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Jail them!

Yes, those lying conservative outlets should all be locked up. 

I understand the need for fairness and balance but this outlet has blown it's credibility. It has declared a willingness and has demonstrated a track record of lying over and over again to prop up the bottom line. Fox has admitted to lying massively. We shouldn't have to put up with this dubious source any further.

Troll posts using derogatory terms to describe Hunter Biden have been removed. Any more posts like this and you will deal with a posting suspension.

 

quote from the OP "On Aug. 4, 2017, Chinese firm CEFC Infrastructure Investment wired $100,000 to Hunter Biden’s law firm Owasco, according to a 2020 report published by the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. Then, days later on Aug. 8, 2017, CEFC Infrastructure Investment sent $5 million to Hudson West III, a firm Hunter Biden opened with Chinese associates.

 

As I understand the OP this seems to have happened during a period pf time when Trump was POTUS with Pence as the VP.

 

The current president Biden was not in any position of power and his son, Hunter, NEVER worked for his father, and was NEVER appointed to ANY government position.

 

Furthermore I cannot see any messages marked  "sitting here with my Father" can be misconstrued as "threatening".

 

Having said that, I am not clutching at any straw to throw dirt on anybody as it seems that quote "the House Ways and Means Committee. In the messages — shared to the panel via IRS whistleblower Gary Shapley Jr., who oversaw the agency's probe into Hunter Biden — Hunter Biden blasted business partner Henry Zhao for not fulfilling his "commitment" and said his father was with him".

 

Do any of those messages reveal any actual threats, assuming that they are real messages, of course, instead of simply allegations?

 

Byw is this the whistleblower they they "lost" for 3 years, or a new one who has conveniently popped out of the woodwork?

 

 

Did I miss what Hunter and "his father sitting next to him" did to earn this $5 or $10 million? We are not talking small change here clearly the bidens provided a service of some sort, any idea from the biden fans what it could have been?

 

Can we finally all now agree, that Joe Biden IS implicated in his sons business deals with foreign citizens in adversarial countries? How long did this take for the left to state what was blindingly obvious since before that election? 7 years of lies and dishonesty falsely claiming the payments a)did not exist at all and b) joe biden had never discussed foreign business deals with his son. 2 big lies.

21 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Jail them!

Jail those conservative outlests? If only...

39 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Did I miss what Hunter and "his father sitting next to him" did to earn this $5 or $10 million? We are not talking small change here clearly the bidens provided a service of some sort, any idea from the biden fans what it could have been?

 

Can we finally all now agree, that Joe Biden IS implicated in his sons business deals with foreign citizens in adversarial countries? How long did this take for the left to state what was blindingly obvious since before that election? 7 years of lies and dishonesty falsely claiming the payments a)did not exist at all and b) joe biden had never discussed foreign business deals with his son. 2 big lies.

Did I miss something where there is actual evidence beyond Hunter Biden's words that Joe Biden participated in this? Interesting how you take his words as being presumptively true. And what makes your remark completely ridiculous is your question that "Can we finally all now agree, that Joe Biden IS implicated in his sons business deals with foreign citizens in adversarial countries?" Guess who the USA's biggest trading partner is? It's an adversarial country called China. You've pretty much accused all of the heads of American industry of engaging  in business deals with an "adversarial country". Lock them up!

59 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Did I miss something where there is actual evidence beyond Hunter Biden's words that Joe Biden participated in this? Interesting how you take his words as being presumptively true. And what makes your remark completely ridiculous is your question that "Can we finally all now agree, that Joe Biden IS implicated in his sons business deals with foreign citizens in adversarial countries?" Guess who the USA's biggest trading partner is? It's an adversarial country called China. You've pretty much accused all of the heads of American industry of engaging  in business deals with an "adversarial country". Lock them up!

Yes you missed the actual bank records that prove 100% the payments (which for many years the left claimed falsely never occurred at all) were made from CCP linked Chinese citizens exist as claimed by the GOP and people interested in facts since 2016 - rather than the payments being a conspiracy theory, a "manufactured crisis"(1) and "“classic example of the right-wing media machine”

 

"The Biden Family Received Millions of Dollars from Foreign Sources:  Bank records show the Biden family, their business associates, and their companies received over $10 million from foreign nationals’ and their related companies. The Committee has identified payments to Biden family members from foreign companies while he served as Vice President and after he left public office."

https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-reveals-new-evidence-in-biden-familys-influence-peddling-schemes/

 

What is clear is that it was a far better situation for biden when the mainstream narrative was that the laptop containing all the evidence was "Russian disinformation" and the payments - well they never happened at all. 

 

(1)https://abcnews4.com/news/nation-world/cnns-brian-stelter-admits-hunter-biden-laptop-not-just-a-right-wing-media-story

 

Finally, as someone that has been on the right side of this story since it initially broke, it is hard to see why you would be calling me "ridiculous". Is being factually correct on an issue ridiculous? Had the business between the bidens and these adversarial countries been legitimate there would have been no need for 7 years of disinformation, censorship and lies to protect the bidens. 

6 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Yes you missed the actual bank records that prove 100% the payments (which for many years the left claimed falsely never occurred at all) were made from CCP linked Chinese citizens exist as claimed by the GOP and people interested in facts since 2016 - rather than the payments being a conspiracy theory, a "manufactured crisis"(1) and "“classic example of the right-wing media machine”

Please share with me the proof that the left never claimed these payments existed.

And what exactly does "CCP linked Chinese citizens" mean? I'm aware, even if you're not, that the Chinese govt installs its apparatchiks in virtually every large company in China? Is that what you mean? Isn't it the case that the person who made these payments is now detained in prison and being investigated for corruption? Is that how the Chinese govt rewards the people who do its bidding? You've got nothing.

9 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

"The Biden Family Received Millions of Dollars from Foreign Sources:  Bank records show the Biden family, their business associates, and their companies received over $10 million from foreign nationals’ and their related companies. The Committee has identified payments to Biden family members from foreign companies while he served as Vice President and after he left public office."

https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-reveals-new-evidence-in-biden-familys-influence-peddling-schemes/

Apparently, in your world, it's a crime to be related to people who, actually haven't been show to have committed, but certainly aren't reluctant to have traded on the name of Joe Biden. No hard evidence exists that Joe Biden profited even to the tune of 1 cent over these deals or that he actually intervened for any member of his family in these deals. And while it may be sleazy to have used the family name to their advantage, it's actually not a crime for his relatives to have done so.

13 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

What is clear is that it was a far better situation for biden when the mainstream narrative was that the laptop containing all the evidence was "Russian disinformation" and the payments - well they never happened at all. 

 

(1)https://abcnews4.com/news/nation-world/cnns-brian-stelter-admits-hunter-biden-laptop-not-just-a-right-wing-media-story

 

Finally, as someone that has been on the right side of this story since it initially broke, it is hard to see why you would be calling me "ridiculous". Is being factually correct on an issue ridiculous? Had the business between the bidens and these adversarial countries been legitimate there would have been no need for 7 years of disinformation, censorship and lies to protect the bidens. 

I've dealt with your nonsense about Hunter Biden's laptop over and over again. And every time I do, you just evaporate rather than answer the points that I and others have raised. Not honorable behavior. The same goes for your unbacked allegations of "disinformation, censorship, and lies"

I didn't call you ridiculous, but your reasoning certainly is based as it is on conspiratorial allegations of a coveruip about Joe Biden that have zero hard evidence to back them up. Zero, nada, zilch. Your constant invocation of the Biden family name as somehow proof that Joe Biden was involved in any of this is downright sleazy and smacks of desperation. You've got nothing.

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Yes you missed the actual bank records that prove 100% the payments (which for many years the left claimed falsely never occurred at all) were made from CCP linked Chinese citizens exist as claimed by the GOP and people interested in facts since 2016 - rather than the payments being a conspiracy theory, a "manufactured crisis"(1) and "“classic example of the right-wing media machine”

 

"The Biden Family Received Millions of Dollars from Foreign Sources:  Bank records show the Biden family, their business associates, and their companies received over $10 million from foreign nationals’ and their related companies. The Committee has identified payments to Biden family members from foreign companies while he served as Vice President and after he left public office."

https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-reveals-new-evidence-in-biden-familys-influence-peddling-schemes/

 

What is clear is that it was a far better situation for biden when the mainstream narrative was that the laptop containing all the evidence was "Russian disinformation" and the payments - well they never happened at all. 

 

(1)https://abcnews4.com/news/nation-world/cnns-brian-stelter-admits-hunter-biden-laptop-not-just-a-right-wing-media-story

 

Finally, as someone that has been on the right side of this story since it initially broke, it is hard to see why you would be calling me "ridiculous". Is being factually correct on an issue ridiculous? Had the business between the bidens and these adversarial countries been legitimate there would have been no need for 7 years of disinformation, censorship and lies to protect the bidens. 

You really need some new material.  You keep posting the same nonsense and people keep reminding  you that there is no evidence of illegal activity and no evidence that Joe Biden was involved.

 

Yes, Hunter Biden is probably a con artist who hustled some Chinese businessmen out of some money.  But he's not President and never will be.  When you have hard evidence that Joe Biden did something illegal let us know.

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Yes you missed the actual bank records that prove 100% the payments (which for many years the left claimed falsely never occurred at all) were made from CCP linked Chinese citizens exist as claimed by the GOP and people interested in facts since 2016 - rather than the payments being a conspiracy theory, a "manufactured crisis"(1) and "“classic example of the right-wing media machine”

 

"The Biden Family Received Millions of Dollars from Foreign Sources:  Bank records show the Biden family, their business associates, and their companies received over $10 million from foreign nationals’ and their related companies. The Committee has identified payments to Biden family members from foreign companies while he served as Vice President and after he left public office."

https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-reveals-new-evidence-in-biden-familys-influence-peddling-schemes/

 

What is clear is that it was a far better situation for biden when the mainstream narrative was that the laptop containing all the evidence was "Russian disinformation" and the payments - well they never happened at all. 

 

(1)https://abcnews4.com/news/nation-world/cnns-brian-stelter-admits-hunter-biden-laptop-not-just-a-right-wing-media-story

 

Finally, as someone that has been on the right side of this story since it initially broke, it is hard to see why you would be calling me "ridiculous". Is being factually correct on an issue ridiculous? Had the business between the bidens and these adversarial countries been legitimate there would have been no need for 7 years of disinformation, censorship and lies to protect the bidens. 

You have never produced evidence oif anything, including payments to HB. How can you be factually correct?

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Yes you missed the actual bank records that prove

I've followed your links. I did not see any "actual bank records".

 

Can you simply post one link to these "actual bank records"? Or even an image?

 

And ideally some direct linkage between these "actual bank records" and Joseph or Hunter Biden.

 

 

 

 

5 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Did I miss what Hunter and "his father sitting next to him" did to earn this $5 or $10 million? We are not talking small change here clearly the bidens provided a service of some sort, any idea from the biden fans what it could have been?

 

Can we finally all now agree, that Joe Biden IS implicated in his sons business deals with foreign citizens in adversarial countries? How long did this take for the left to state what was blindingly obvious since before that election? 7 years of lies and dishonesty falsely claiming the payments a)did not exist at all and b) joe biden had never discussed foreign business deals with his son. 2 big lies.

Please stop using "we" when you are posting. You do NOT speak for anybody other than yourself and you certainly do NOT speak for me, and probably many other people.

 

As I constantly tell you, before President Biden has to be investigated and the truth revealed. That requires PROOF and you have none.

 

No WE cannot agree that President Biden is guilty of anything. He has NOT been charged with anything, and without proof of a crime he cannot be charged with anything.

 

Perhaps in your mind he is, but then we only have your word for that, and quite frankly, your unsubstantiated words are worth nothing.

Troll post containing a video removed.

 

Let me know if there's ever any actual proof that President Biden gained any direct financial benefit from his son's business activities.  Thus far NONE.

 

Or, let me know if there's ever any actual proof that President Biden, or his prior iterations as a public official, ever altered any government policy or decision (other than what it already would have been) to benefit his son's business activities. Thus fare NONE.

 

Otherwise, Fox can take their ongoing political misinformation and propaganda campaign and shove it!  From the same outfit that just agreed to pay $787 million to settle their knowingly false claims over the 2020 presidential election.

 

 

It's all very confusing.  As near as I can tell, somebody said that somebody heard that something happened, but nobody seems to know for sure if it did -- except for some people want to believe it did.  And then a business partner in China paid money to a law firm in the US.  Is that right?   

 

12 minutes ago, Credo said:

It's all very confusing.  As near as I can tell, somebody said that somebody heard that something happened, but nobody seems to know for sure if it did -- except for some people want to believe it did.  And then a business partner in China paid money to a law firm in the US.  Is that right?   

 

No. It is a poor attempt to cast doubt on the facts that are known. Always happy to educate the misled and uninformed. But if your post is honest, why would you replace the name biden with "someone"??

 

"Subpoenaed financial records show that from 2015 to 2017, Biden family members – Hunter Biden, James Biden, Hallie Biden, and an unknown “Biden” – and their companies collectively received $1.3 million in payments from accounts related to Rob Walker, a Biden family associate.

Notably, on March 1, 2017, less than two months after Vice President Joe Biden left public office, State Energy HK Limited, a Chinese company, wired $3 million to Rob Walker’s company. The next day, the company wired $1,065,000 to a company associated with James Gilliar, another Biden family associate. Afterwards, the Biden family received approximately $1,065,000 in payments over a three-month period in different bank accounts. From the bank records, it appears that the Biden family received approximately one-third of the money obtained from the China wire."

https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-reveals-biden-family-members-receiving-payments-from-chinese-energy-company/

31 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

No. It is a poor attempt to cast doubt on the facts that are known. Always happy to educate the misled and uninformed. But if your post is honest, why would you replace the name biden with "someone"??

 

"Subpoenaed financial records show that from 2015 to 2017, Biden family members – Hunter Biden, James Biden, Hallie Biden, and an unknown “Biden” – and their companies collectively received $1.3 million in payments from accounts related to Rob Walker, a Biden family associate.

Notably, on March 1, 2017, less than two months after Vice President Joe Biden left public office, State Energy HK Limited, a Chinese company, wired $3 million to Rob Walker’s company. The next day, the company wired $1,065,000 to a company associated with James Gilliar, another Biden family associate. Afterwards, the Biden family received approximately $1,065,000 in payments over a three-month period in different bank accounts. From the bank records, it appears that the Biden family received approximately one-third of the money obtained from the China wire."

https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-reveals-biden-family-members-receiving-payments-from-chinese-energy-company/

So if what your trying to say is so true and evidence is in place, tell us why a trial or grand jury has not been convened. Have you ever thought that the paper trail is suspicious in-itself. Your sure grasping at straws. You must really find the Biden family distasteful yet you seem to adore another con-man.

47 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

No. It is a poor attempt to cast doubt on the facts that are known. Always happy to educate the misled and uninformed. But if your post is honest, why would you replace the name biden with "someone"??

 

"Subpoenaed financial records show that from 2015 to 2017, Biden family members – Hunter Biden, James Biden, Hallie Biden, and an unknown “Biden” – and their companies collectively received $1.3 million in payments from accounts related to Rob Walker, a Biden family associate.

Notably, on March 1, 2017, less than two months after Vice President Joe Biden left public office, State Energy HK Limited, a Chinese company, wired $3 million to Rob Walker’s company. The next day, the company wired $1,065,000 to a company associated with James Gilliar, another Biden family associate. Afterwards, the Biden family received approximately $1,065,000 in payments over a three-month period in different bank accounts. From the bank records, it appears that the Biden family received approximately one-third of the money obtained from the China wire."

https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-reveals-biden-family-members-receiving-payments-from-chinese-energy-company/

Summary:  No proof of any illegal activity or involvement with Joe Biden.  Got it.

3 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

No. It is a poor attempt to cast doubt on the facts that are known. Always happy to educate the misled and uninformed. But if your post is honest, why would you replace the name biden with "someone"??

 

"Subpoenaed financial records show that from 2015 to 2017, Biden family members – Hunter Biden, James Biden, Hallie Biden, and an unknown “Biden” – and their companies collectively received $1.3 million in payments from accounts related to Rob Walker, a Biden family associate.

Notably, on March 1, 2017, less than two months after Vice President Joe Biden left public office, State Energy HK Limited, a Chinese company, wired $3 million to Rob Walker’s company. The next day, the company wired $1,065,000 to a company associated with James Gilliar, another Biden family associate. Afterwards, the Biden family received approximately $1,065,000 in payments over a three-month period in different bank accounts. From the bank records, it appears that the Biden family received approximately one-third of the money obtained from the China wire."

https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-reveals-biden-family-members-receiving-payments-from-chinese-energy-company/

Not only is this not proof connecting Joe Biden to any crime, unless being related to these people is one,  but what proof is there these payments are criminal in nature?

So then All you do have is a junkie desperate for more money for more drugs? I realize how low people go in a situation Hunter found himself as examined in the laptop. 

10 hours ago, placeholder said:

Not only is this not proof connecting Joe Biden to any crime, unless being related to these people is one,  but what proof is there these payments are criminal in nature?

Proof means nothing to him.

 

He has none so he pumps out vast quantities of rubbish on a daily basis and vainly hopes that somebody, anybody will believe him.

 

he has been asked for proof many times but he always tries to divert away from his words, simply because that all they are.

 

His words, and IMHO his words are worthless as he HAS no proof.

 

A phrase that springs to my mind on any of his posts is.

 

"All hat and no cattle"

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Hat_and_No_Cattle#:~:text=All hat and no cattle is an idiom,all talk%2C no action".

 

All hat and no cattle is an idiom meaning "all talk, no action".

4 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said:

So then All you do have is a junkie desperate for more money for more drugs? I realize how low people go in a situation Hunter found himself as examined in the laptop. 

I believe HB is suing the laptop fixer. Not because he wasn't entitled to keep the laptop but he was never entitled to access or disseminate the data which was personal. So, yes they can go quite low.