redwood1 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) https://www.pattayamail.com/news/pattaya-and-toyota-collaborate-to-build-sustainable-smart-city-435050 First question.....Who the heck is going to be paying for a fleet of new baht buses..It sure will not be the divers.....I bet these cost at least 2-3 million a pop with the customizing.. Look at the size of the guys standind.....Then put them in the seats.....2 of these guys would just about take up one side.......(or 3 smaler people) Notice this is not a full bed pick-up like the current baht buses use, this is a short bed pick-up that would hold a lot less people.... Notice how the current baht buses are painted blue and the seats are blue..... Why? Because blue hides the dirt and they never look all that dirty.... Notice the new baht buses.....The color is white on white on white.....I guarantee these baht buses will look filthy in no time... Even if the drivers were given the baht buses 100% free, I think the drivers would be making a lot less money due to the new baht buses small size... So in turn the price to ride the baht bus would have to go up up..... Edited July 4, 2023 by redwood1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post newnative Posted July 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2023 I'd rather see electric motorcycles, starting with the noisiest ones. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Converting to LPG would be a lot wiser and cheaper IMO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post actonion Posted July 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2023 The Electric company in Thailand really does'nt need an extra load like Electric vehicles, they cant maintain a domestic Electric supply without many power cuts especially during the up coming rain season... 2 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bkk6060 Posted July 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2023 The current ones are filthy dangerous gas guzzlers. And, I think they should be banned in certain areas especially Soi Buakhao where they constantly stop and jam up traffic on a one lane road. 2 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brianthainess Posted July 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) Yeh that'd work driving around all night lights on, in rain using wipers, even using indicators some times, and of course the horn tooting, a/c /fan in the cabin. What could possibly go wrong 61CwwjmXXML._AC_UL400_.webp Edited July 4, 2023 by brianthainess 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sirineou Posted July 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2023 How many Baht bushes are in Pattaya? I honestly don't know , but I am willing to bet that they will not even put a dent in the pollution problem , Probably counteract two or three people burning trash. I am a big proponent of the electrification of our transportation system, but this IMO is political grandstanding and lip service. If they want to reduce emissions they should implement a program subsidising EV purchases. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liddelljohn Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 When the battery explodes like a 500kg bomb and the subsequent fire is not extinguishable I reckon there will be some nice redevelopment plots in pattaya and of course the loss of a few tourists and peasant drivers wont hurt business 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scubascuba3 Posted July 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2023 Worse polluters are pickups, lorries and coaches, baht buses not so bad 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunLA Posted July 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2023 43 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: Worse polluters are pickups, lorries and coaches, baht buses not so bad Unless diesel, which many pickups are. I Patts was forward thinking, they'd simply set up a revolving looping monorail/tram route along beach road (all of) and half of 2nd Road, and limit those sections to the tram, bicycle, ebikes/scooter & walking. NO ICE vehicles. Couple large parking garages outside the main, w/ shuttle service to the tram. Obviously city planning is not their forte'. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert got kinky Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 50 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: Worse polluters are pickups, lorries and coaches, baht buses not so bad Baht buses are pickups. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NoDisplayName Posted July 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2023 This is deleted ridiculous. How 'bout set up a public transportation system like other third world countries? Why depend on untrained, unlicensed, anybody's second cousin with an old beater pickup to haul the public. Really. It's not that hard to set up a public bus system. Forget the monorails and futuristic semi-bulletproof EV Tesla moontrucks and just have the city buy some small 17-seater short-buses that will easily fit on the roads, and hire and train municipal employee bus drivers. Heck, if Myanmar can do it...... No, that's not complicated enough. We're wanna be the hub of hubs of Asian space exploration instead. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, KhunLA said: Unless diesel, which many pickups are. Does that include the ones where black smoke pours out? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, Bert got kinky said: Baht buses are pickups. Different, black smoke often comes out of pickups when accelerating away, never seen it from a baht bus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 1 minute ago, scubascuba3 said: Does that include the ones where black smoke pours out? They're usually the ones spewing the black smoke, diesel fueled ICEs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screaming Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Gas or electric, it is still a truck and who in their right mind wants to sit in the back of a truck with the pollution, heat and humidity? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: Different, black smoke often comes out of pickups when accelerating away, never seen it from a baht bus If not mistaken, black smoke should never come out or any vehicle, if properly maintained. Old or misadjusted injectors. Some just need cleaning and have an easy fix, with an additive to prevent, but, that would cut into profits. What does the driver care for, the smoke is behind him. Diesel should have been banned decades ago, as a direct link to negative health issues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Screaming said: Gas or electric, it is still a truck and who in their right mind wants to sit in the back of a truck with the pollution, heat and humidity? For a mere 20 (?) baht, beats walking in the pollution, heat & humidity, if that's your only convenant transport. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert got kinky Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 13 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: Different, black smoke often comes out of pickups when accelerating away, never seen it from a baht bus How are they different? Are you suggesting that Baht buses have different engines. They are standard single cab pickups with a cage and seats on the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 2 hours ago, brianthainess said: Converting to LPG would be a lot wiser and cheaper IMO Oh yes, waiting for the news of that mishap with tourists being burned alive! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert got kinky Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 1 minute ago, jacko45k said: Oh yes, waiting for the news of that mishap with tourists being burned alive! Taxis in Hong Kong have used LPG for years without problems. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, jacko45k said: 2 hours ago, brianthainess said: Converting to LPG would be a lot wiser and cheaper IMO Oh yes, waiting for the news of that mishap with tourists being burned alive! LPG-fuelled public transport has been in use for years in Bangkok and I don't recall a single instance of those vehicles burning passengers alive, why would you think that it would happen in Pattaya? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bert got kinky said: Taxis in Hong Kong have used LPG for years without problems. and Bangkok 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Just now, Liverpool Lou said: LPG-fuelled public transport has been in use for years in Bangkok and I don't recall a single instance of those vehicles burning passengers alive, why would you think that it would happen in Pattaya? They have boots... baht buses do not. Where is the tank (s) located? Minivans sure are safe... https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2023/01/22/fiery-death-of-11-in-lng-fuelled-mini-van-nakhon-ratchasima/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Bert got kinky said: Taxis in Hong Kong have used LPG for years without problems. Topic isn't about taxis......read the OP! Edited July 4, 2023 by jacko45k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said: Worse polluters are pickups, lorries and coaches, baht buses not so bad Aren't baht busses just pickups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 19 minutes ago, jacko45k said: 26 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: LPG-fuelled public transport has been in use for years in Bangkok and I don't recall a single instance of those vehicles burning passengers alive, why would you think that it would happen in Pattaya? Expand They have boots... baht buses do not. Where is the tank (s) located? Minivans sure are safe... There are many baht buses in Bangkok, The LPG tanks are either under the vehicle or under the passenger seats. I can't recall having seen any reports about Bangkok's minibuses burning people to death, either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 15 minutes ago, jacko45k said: Aren't baht busses just pickups? Maybe the pickups that spew out black smoke have been souped up somehow but i don't see the same smoke out of a baht bus, have you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubuzz Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 3 hours ago, redwood1 said: First question.....Who the heck is going to be paying for a fleet of new baht buses..It sure will not be the divers Why would divers pay for baht buses? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: There are many baht buses in Bangkok, The LPG tanks are either under the vehicle or under the passenger seats. I can't recall having seen any reports about Bangkok's minibuses burning people to death, either. This was a close call.. Would it not make sense to skip LPG and go electric.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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