German expat in Thailand faces death penalty for premeditated murder

[proton]

13 hours ago, ChipButty said:

I doubt they will carry it out, life without parole more likely, 

But death preferable to the hell in a Thai prison

[snowgard]

4 hours ago, Paris333 said:

Regardless of the joke, the German criminal after killing another German citizen will be extradited to Germany for trial and unfortunately not to Thailand......

100% not!!! Him will have his trial in Thailand!!!

[BangkokReady]

12 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Selective photography from those with an agenda, perhaps?

Those sneaky rascals who want to try and make Thai jails look like bad places?

[save the frogs]

37 minutes ago, proton said:

But death preferable to the hell in a Thai prison

not necessarily because we don't know what happens after death

[BangkokReady]

14 hours ago, webfact said:

which carries life signage as punishment

Life signage?  Anyone know what that is?  Or is it a typo?

[Billybaroo]

14 hours ago, flyingtlger said:

Olaf Thorsten Brinkmann does not look like a nice person....

Looks more like he will die of cardiac arrest than the death penalty first. 

[kwonitoy]

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Guess.

Story time Lou, 

[Trip Hop]

3 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

What's the source for your "statistic"?

A newbie to Thailand are you or just naive to what goes on outside your little bubble?  It's one or the other, otherwise you'd have to agree with me?

[Hummin]

11 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Some very interesting images in the above video....

 

The "uniform" of some of the local SWAT team members doing the raid, shorts and T-shirt:

 

 

And then, the motorcycle gang in question seeming to be a regular international organization of criminals, as evidenced by the decorations shown in the hangout where the Olaf suspect was arrested:

 

Australian flag:

 

Okinawa Japan flag:

 

What appears to be a U.S. Confederate flag:

 

Outlaws Russia flag:

 

Outlaws with what appears to be a German flag:

 

Outlaws Bangkok:

 

 

Outlaws Phuket:

 

 

F amateurs, Swat police up my bull pie ????

[Trip Hop]

5 hours ago, BenStark said:

Most of those 1% clubs gangs are outlawed in their country of origin for a reason, and of those that are active in Thailand, many of them have had members that have been convicted for serious crimes.

But I think to understand from your comments in this thread so far, that you are a member of an MC club. Correct?

 

There are also many more falangs in Thailand that aren't part of an MC club, than there are that are members.

 

I'm pretty sure if you should going in the details, that a much higher percentage of the 1% gangs has committed crimes in Thailand, than the percentage of no MC club members

Statistics are wonderful things in that you can manipulate different outcomes just by adjusting the criteria/weighting.

 

My point was that there is good and bad everywhere and in everyone, whether it be race. religion et all.  To tar everyone as the same just because of their associations is very narrow minded indeed.

 

Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of MC club members that are engaged in criminal activity.  However, excluding the occasional fight or similar, the majority are not and are actually quite normal people outside of "club" with a lot of them being legitimate businessmen.

 

Personally I know a MC member that is covered in tattoos from the neck down/wrist up but is also a medical professional.  Are you saying that he is not fit to treat someone just because of his club ties or to put it another way, would you refuse his treatment if you or a member of your close family was dying?

 

Another is very high up in local education and both his pupils and their parents rave about how good he is?  He has been "club" for the best part of 35 years.

 

As for myself, yes I am "club" and proud of it.  I'm also a consulting engineer that generates a legitimate income in the top 5% back home in Blighty.  As the old adage goes, you should never judge a book by its cover?

 

The thing is that everyone including the BIB automatically assumes that this incident is club related?  Personally I don't at present but will stand to be corrected should more information at a later date confirm this to be the case? 

[Hummin]

11 hours ago, Trip Hop said:

I met him a few times briefly a few years ago before he relocated to Cambodia just before Covid.  He used to come to eat and have a few beers at the g/f's restaurant because he was sweet on a girl that was renting a room from her.  He wasn't the most talkative guy but those in the MC world rarely are to outsiders until they get to know them.  On the other hand, he didn't immediately come across as an obvious bad person.

Thats why you do not underestimate who you are dealing with at anytime at anyplace. You just do not know the man in front of you, period. So many have done that in Thailand, especially when it comes to property and buying in to other business prospects after meeting someone who seems to be genuin, or do not look bad. Bad guys normally comes along as quite friendly and good at what they doing. 

 

Doesnt apply to this guy thow. 

 

 

[Hummin]

6 minutes ago, Trip Hop said:

Statistics are wonderful things in that you can manipulate different outcomes just by adjusting the criteria/weighting.

 

My point was that there is good and bad everywhere and in everyone, whether it be race. religion et all.  To tar everyone as the same just because of their associations is very narrow minded indeed.

 

Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of MC club members that are engaged in criminal activity.  However, excluding the occasional fight or similar, the majority are not and are actually quite normal people outside of "club" with a lot of them being legitimate businessmen.

 

Personally I know a MC member that is covered in tattoos from the neck down/wrist up but is also a medical professional.  Are you saying that he is not fit to treat someone just because of his club ties or to put it another way, would you refuse his treatment if you or a member of your close family was dying?

 

Another is very high up in local education and both his pupils and their parents rave about how good he is?  He has been "club" for the best part of 35 years.

 

As for myself, yes I am "club" and proud of it.  I'm also a consulting engineer that generates a legitimate income in the top 5% back home in Blighty.  As the old adage goes, you should never judge a book by its cover?

 

The thing is that everyone including the BIB automatically assumes that this incident is club related?  Personally I don't at present but will stand to be corrected should more information at a later date confirm this to be the case? 

So you are an 1% club member, and not a wannabee club member? In Thailand, it is quite different than back home, but still, did you know HA wanted to establish a club in Hua Hin? If you know, you also know how that ended before it started. 

[Hummin]

10 hours ago, Trip Hop said:

The simple fact that you refer to them as gangs and not clubs just goes to show the extent of your naivety on this subject.

 

There are far more falangs in Thailand that commit criminal activity that are not part of an MC club.  By your rhetoric does this mean that they should kick all falangs out too? 

Real estate comes to mind, and those who was involved in a bigger scandal in Koh Samui was? 

 

I wouldnt bet my money that foreign motorbike clubs where foreigners was role playing crimes was on top of the list! 

 

My best guess would be trafficking out of Thailand and foreigners who abuse minors in Thailand as the ones who is on top of the list. But I have no proofs or statistics to back it up

[Hummin]

4 hours ago, snowgard said:

Looks like the Outlaws MC delivered him to the police!!!

Im not sure that would look good on Outlaws deliver him to the police in their own club house! What do you think? In that case, those Outlaws have to be quite dumb!

[save the frogs]

28 minutes ago, Trip Hop said:

My point was that there is good and bad everywhere and in everyone, whether it be race. religion et all.  To tar everyone as the same just because of their associations is very narrow minded indeed.

what purpose would there be for joining one of these clubs? the camaraderie? club discounts at the local golf course?

 

even if only 5% of club members engage in criminal activity, why would a law-abiding citizen want to associate with this group? 

 

a normal person will generally cut off ties with someone once they get wind that they are involved in criminal activity. here, you are trapped in the club and they are your friends regardless of what they do. makes no sense. 

 

Edited July 15, 2023 by save the frogs

[Hummin]

8 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

what purpose would there be for joining one of these clubs? the camaraderie? club discounts at the local golf course?

 

even if only 5% of club members engage in criminal activity, why would a law-abiding citizen want to associate with this group? 

 

a normal person will generally cut off ties with someone once they get wind that they are involved in criminal activity. here, you are trapped in the club and they are your friends regardless of what they do. makes no sense. 

 

They are proud their uniform and how it makes them feel!

 

 

[Chelseafan]

13 hours ago, Kaopad999 said:

Good job officers!  Should have shot him there on the spot!
Can't believe he thought he'd be able to hide in that  little hole with that big fat visable body of his. . 

So he is guilty then ? Without trial ?

 

[jacko45k]

12 hours ago, chris carre said:

They know how to fiddle justice and get the brown envalope,s.Belive me in 3 month,s all will be forgiven/forgot and we will all have moved on.

I don't doubt it. Since court cases are done in private we never really get follow ups. And a country where a few payments work  wonders and there is endemic corruption, anything can be achieved .... only the poor go to jail. I often wonder where the multiple murderer who beat an Oz guy to death (in a soi 6 Pattaya bar) went. I heard he got out of Thailand. But even those who do go to jail, there is no more heard. 

Edited July 15, 2023 by jacko45k

[mokwit]

9 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

What difference does it make?

Because if he is on say, a retirement visa, there will likely be stiffer scrutiny of applicants.

 

 

[steven100]

Olaf is going to take up alot of space at night laying on the prison floor

[norfolkandchance]

14 hours ago, Skeptic7 said:

Execute this worthless piece of ???? ASAP❗And the gross obese woman turd too❗

Get off that fence.

[brianthainess]

20 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

whenever you see prisoners they look thin, malnourished 

I would presume with 20+ in a cage a lot of dysentery, TB, and other communicable diseases are rife, I hope he suffers all of them including Monkey Pox.  

[Grumpy one]

If found guilty, I doubt he will be missed by too many

[mikeymike100]

9 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

Those sneaky rascals who want to try and make Thai jails look like bad places?

Absolutely!! In reality they are more 5 star hotels, comfy beds, big TV's, room service etc?????

[mikeymike100]

16 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

Now we know Lou's background

Good One!!

[soalbundy]

Looked like one of Nates hide and seek games.

[brianthainess]

14 hours ago, Paris333 said:

German citizen will be extradited to Germany for trial and unfortunately not to Thailand.....

Sorry but utter nonsense. Crime in Thailand= Thai court.

[brianthainess]

9 hours ago, save the frogs said:

not necessarily because we don't know what happens after death

Must be good, no one comes back.

[brianthainess]

1 hour ago, steven100 said:

Olaf is going to take up alot of space at night laying on the prison floor

He'd make a nice mattress for others. 

[brianthainess]

A punishment worse than death, share a cell with Lou