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20 minutes ago, Sharp said:

Spike proteins isn't that in vaccines? ????

Technically, the answer is No.

 

The mRNA (messenger RNA) vaccines deliver a payload that uses your body's cells to produce a piece of the spike protein. The cells then display that spike protein piece on their surface, which in turn is recognized by the immune system as foreign material, so the immune system creates antibodies to neutralize what it thinks is an infection.

 

You can read the whole sorry saga at the CDC website here.

I will continue to get vaccinated at regular intervals and wear my mask when I go out in public. This seems to have worked well for me thus far.

3 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Yep, tell that to  the nearly 7million it killed!

..and how many died  'with covid' rather than 'from covid' were bundled in those number ?

 

A larger percentage I'd guess.

 

 

People on the forums that  constantly criticize any sort of medical findings or treatment. . .The great majority of them have no medical qualifications whatsoever.  And  many  will downplay anything because they can’t afford medical care , or even a vaccine .  

Edited July 15, 20233 yr by swm59nj

3 hours ago, BangkokHank said:

How I miss the times before COVID, when nobody ever died of anything.

I guess you mean when a lot fewer people died of anything.

9 hours ago, freedomnow said:

..and how many died  'with covid' rather than 'from covid' were bundled in those number ?

 

A larger percentage I'd guess.

 

 

Don't you get a little embarrassed wheeling out that little bit of irrelevant nonsense over and over. People were made to look foolish saying that 3 or so years ago.

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On 7/15/2023 at 12:08 PM, dinsdale said:

One could say it's hardly news at all. Sub-variants will keep on coming and keep on being mild and keep on being faster spreading than its predecessor. IMO we do not need to know. What's the point?  

What's the point?  To help fill the medical professions pockets.

On 7/15/2023 at 12:13 PM, jacko45k said:

To  stoke the dying embers of what has been very profitable, and given raison d'être to  so many!

 

1 hour ago, NoshowJones said:

What's the point?  To help fill the medical professions pockets.

 

Big Pharma I think is more to the point. Mild symptoms yet jabs still advised. More and more evidence is coming to light about this yet said evidence is still not being told in mainsteam media and is still being supressed though a denial of freedom of speach.

8 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Don't you get a little embarrassed wheeling out that little bit of irrelevant nonsense over and over. People were made to look foolish saying that 3 or so years ago.

Over and over ? I have not been wheeling out any such thing repeatedly.

 

Quote your source that they all died from covid on its own.

 

 

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18 hours ago, Felton Jarvis said:

I will continue to get vaccinated at regular intervals and wear my mask when I go out in public. This seems to have worked well for me thus far.

I will continue to not get vaccinated at regular intervals and not wear my mask when I go out in public. This seems to have worked well for me thus far.

On 7/15/2023 at 11:32 AM, alien365 said:

Can I label these subvariants as common colds yet without receiving a backlash from others about their severity? 

you the expert virologist then? 

18 hours ago, freedomnow said:

..and how many died  'with covid' rather than 'from covid' were bundled in those number ?

 

A larger percentage I'd guess.

 

 

You have proof of this? Show us how hospitals would have done this and why. 

On 7/15/2023 at 10:17 AM, webfact said:

Dr Supakit Sirilak revealed that five individuals had been diagnosed with this subvariant over the last three months.

Spreading like wildfire...

On 7/15/2023 at 3:07 PM, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

To keep COVID vulnerable people out of the hospitals and out of the morgues....

 

And to remind people such as yourself that COVID continues to put people in hospitals and kill them every week, every month, here in Thailand and elsewhere.

 

And everyone should be mindful, if they have any care for others, to minimize the potential that they'll catch COVID and spread it to others around them.

 

 

 

 

Yep.

 

Unfortunately, you’re trying to reason with people who only give a <deleted> about those public health issues which affect them personally.

52 minutes ago, fusion58 said:

Yep.

 

Unfortunately, you’re trying to reason with people who only give a <deleted> about those public health issues which affect them personally.

is it reasonable to assume the worst of covid is long long gone ?

 

yes people are still dying no one is denying that. yes people get sick no one is denying that. but the huge threat covid once was is undeniably gone for the general public. yes certain people are vulnerable and they should take precaution.

 

expecting the rest of society at large to continue to live like that is not sensible anymore. 

Edited July 16, 20233 yr by stoner

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On 7/15/2023 at 11:13 AM, grain said:

Yeah, well, nobody gives a rat's anymore.

Tell that to my school lol

2 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

I will continue to not get vaccinated at regular intervals and not wear my mask when I go out in public. This seems to have worked well for me thus far.

I got it a few weeks ago for the first time. Never wear masks anywhere. It was no more than a mild sore throat, dry cough and tiredness for a few days. I know other's who got hit harder and many friends who wear masks constantly and have been infected up to 5 times. All the waves we have seen have not been controlled by mask wearing, as mask wearing has hardly changed here during the pandemic (until very recently). Most Thais seemingly have not kicked this habit. It's sad they can't wear motorbike helmets the same way. This would save many more lived per day than any mask would. 

3 minutes ago, DavisH said:

I got it a few weeks ago for the first time. Never wear masks anywhere. It was no more than a mild sore throat, dry cough and tiredness for a few days. I know other's who got hit harder and many friends who wear masks constantly and have been infected up to 5 times. All the waves we have seen have not been controlled by mask wearing, as mask wearing has hardly changed here during the pandemic (until very recently). Most Thais seemingly have not kicked this habit. It's sad they can't wear motorbike helmets the same way. This would save many more lived per day than any mask would. 

yeah I reckon ive had it a few times... never do I get a cold in Thailand but have since 2020.

Edited July 16, 20233 yr by Ralf001

3 hours ago, PremiumLane said:

You have proof of this? Show us how hospitals would have done this and why. 

''The U.K. records any death that occurs within 28 days of a positive PCR test for SARS-CoV-2 as a COVID-19 death.''

''Similarly, in the U.S., CDC dataTrusted Source showed that COVID-19 was the sole cause of only about 5% of listed COVID-19 deaths.''

 

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/how-are-covid-19-deaths-counted-and-what-does-this-mean#Excess-deaths

 

 

1 hour ago, alien365 said:

''The U.K. records any death that occurs within 28 days of a positive PCR test for SARS-CoV-2 as a COVID-19 death.''

''Similarly, in the U.S., CDC dataTrusted Source showed that COVID-19 was the sole cause of only about 5% of listed COVID-19 deaths.''

 

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/how-are-covid-19-deaths-counted-and-what-does-this-mean#Excess-deaths

Power misleading!  You quote "COVID-19 was the sole cause of about 5% of listed COVID-19 deaths.''

 

 and forget the entire following line (their bold)

 

"In the U.S., at least 90% of such recorded deaths had COVID-19 as the underlying cause of death rather than contributing cause."

 

They are disproving your misleading point. They continue to conclude: No evidence of overcounting.

On 7/15/2023 at 8:22 PM, Eleftheros said:

Technically, the answer is No.

 

The mRNA (messenger RNA) vaccines deliver a payload that uses your body's cells to produce a piece of the spike protein. The cells then display that spike protein piece on their surface, which in turn is recognized by the immune system as foreign material, so the immune system creates antibodies to neutralize what it thinks is an infection.

 

You can read the whole sorry saga at the CDC website here.

No, they use the whole spike.

 

"The uniting feature of current genetic COVID-19 vaccines is the provision of mRNAs for the whole, membrane-anchored spike protein" [ref]

 

3 hours ago, DavisH said:

Tell that to my school lol

Only country in the world where schools still implement covid based health restrictions.

 

 

15 minutes ago, anrcaccount said:

Only country in the world where schools still implement covid based health restrictions.

 

 

What country are you in?

 

No COVID restrictions in any of our kids schools here in Thailand.

 

 

20 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

What country are you in?

 

No COVID restrictions in any of our kids schools here in Thailand.

 

 

Not sure of your country - but am aware a number of schools in Thailand still implementing masking and testing policies. Both amongst students and staff. 

 

Not universal sure, rare in international schools, but still there.

 

Along the same lines - where else in the world where do the major convenience stores and supermarkets implement compulsory face coverings for staff? 

 

Healthy 18 year olds working their first job at Makro and 7-11 forced to wear a face covering all shift, comes across pretty absurd at this point. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, rabas said:

Power misleading!  You quote "COVID-19 was the sole cause of about 5% of listed COVID-19 deaths.''

 

 and forget the entire following line (their bold)

 

"In the U.S., at least 90% of such recorded deaths had COVID-19 as the underlying cause of death rather than contributing cause."

 

They are disproving your misleading point. They continue to conclude: No evidence of overcounting.

Power misleading ???????????? 

 

1 hour ago, rabas said:

 

You only read what you want to see. You seem to omit the line after the 90% and that fact the author discusses how the doctors are not consistent. 

Regarding no evidence of overcounting, I never said there was. My response was related to people dying with or by covid. 

Edited July 16, 20233 yr by alien365

If only the idea of “Thailand 4.0” and BMW’s with iPads (aka “immigration smart cars”), an aircraft carrier rusting away in the sea for decades, nuclear subs with no engines, trying to buy US F-35’s a year after Thailand had been warned of their lack of qualified commercial flight pilots, etc, had been as effective and advanced as COVID. Now there is Coronavirus XBB subvariant, named EG.5.1. Great. Now Thailand has problems. Smh