Jingthing Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: Well, DeSantis is on record saying he would pardon Trump if he's elected, so it would seem that if Trump were only running to stay out of jail, he would be much better served just backing DeSantis. And I think it safe to say a lot of people believe the primary reason Trump is being pursued legally is because he is running. Those people would be wrong.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeMachine Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 32 minutes ago, placeholder said: And why couldn't they whoever "they" are, substitute the ballot someone checked off for a different ballot? The points you are raising are absurd. Yes, if I cant see my vote accounted for on a list with the total votes amongst all other voters votes then I would never know. I think a good way for everyone to understand is sit in a room of 20 people. Run a fair and checkable by everyone vote that you think is correct. Then ask everyone if they are happy everyone got their vote counted and its recorded correctly with no doubt or reliance on trust. . You will soon reason through which methods are checkable by all and which are not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 34 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Those people would be wrong.. As long as they vote... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) Another 4 counts. The Trump campaign called the charges “fake” and asked why it took two-and-a-half years to bring them. LOL. https://apnews.com/article/trump-indicted-jan-6-investigation-special-counsel-debb59bb7a4d9f93f7e2dace01feccdc Edited August 2, 2023 by ozimoron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Neeranam Posted August 2, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Yellowtail said: And I think it safe to say a lot of people believe the primary reason Trump is being pursued legally is because he is running. Absolutely, and sadly this corrupt Biden government will usually get their way. Edited August 2, 2023 by Neeranam off topic 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted August 2, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Yellowtail said: And I think it safe to say a lot of people believe the primary reason Trump is being pursued legally is because he is running. Mostly the same people who believe that the election was stolen. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Yellowtail said: Well, DeSantis is on record saying he would pardon Trump if he's elected, so it would seem that if Trump were only running to stay out of jail, he would be much better served just backing DeSantis Maybe he believes he has a better chance of winning than does Desantis? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 3 hours ago, placeholder said: Maybe he believes he has a better chance of winning than does Desantis? Maybe, but I think a Trump backed DeSantis would be pretty tough to beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 6 hours ago, ozimoron said: Another 4 counts. The Trump campaign called the charges “fake” and asked why it took two-and-a-half years to bring them. LOL. https://apnews.com/article/trump-indicted-jan-6-investigation-special-counsel-debb59bb7a4d9f93f7e2dace01feccdc The walls are closing in again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bday Prang Posted August 2, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2023 On 8/1/2023 at 3:28 AM, heybruce said: The man is an immature narcissist and massive security risk. He reveals classified with the enthusiasm of a child saying "I know something you don't know...". God help the US and the world if he gets back in office. god help the world if he doesn't 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: Maybe, but I think a Trump backed DeSantis would be pretty tough to beat. You fail to account for the incredibly strong negatives that Trump has in a general election. So you're suggesting infecting DeSantis with that. If Trump is convicted, a strong majority would not want that traitor pardoned. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yellowtail Posted August 2, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jingthing said: You fail to account for the incredibly strong negatives that Trump has in a general election. So you're suggesting infecting DeSantis with that. If Trump is convicted, a strong majority would not want that traitor pardoned. Do you have anything recent (besides an opinion piece) that supports your "incredibly strong negatives" comment? I doubt very much there is a "strong majority" that thinks him a traitor. I would guess it would be the same strong majority that supports gender-resignment for children. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: Do you have anything recent (besides an opinion piece) that supports your "incredibly strong negatives" comment? I doubt very much there is a "strong majority" that thinks him a traitor. I would guess it would be the same strong majority that supports gender-resignment for children. As usual you disingenuously distort what I said. Doubt away, snookums. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jingthing said: As usual you disingenuously distort what I said. Doubt away, snookums. How did I distort what you said? You said: "If Trump is convicted, a strong majority would not want that traitor pardoned." I said: "I doubt very much there is a "strong majority" that thinks him a traitor." To be clear, If I thought he was a traitor, I would like to see him executed. If he is convicted, from what I've seen, I would like to see him pardoned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: How did I distort what you said? You said: "If Trump is convicted, a strong majority would not want that traitor pardoned." I said: "I doubt very much there is a "strong majority" that thinks him a traitor." To be clear, If I thought he was a traitor, I would like to see him executed. If he is convicted, from what I've seen, I would like to see him pardoned. I'm not going to take on the task of improving your reading comprehension. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted August 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 3, 2023 13 hours ago, Yellowtail said: Do you have anything recent (besides an opinion piece) that supports your "incredibly strong negatives" comment? I doubt very much there is a "strong majority" that thinks him a traitor. I would guess it would be the same strong majority that supports gender-resignment for children. I think it would be the strong majority that voted against Trump in 2020, and had the wisdom of their choice confirmed on January 6. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 On 8/2/2023 at 6:50 PM, Jingthing said: You fail to account for the incredibly strong negatives that Trump has in a general election. So you're suggesting infecting DeSantis with that. If Trump is convicted, a strong majority would not want that traitor pardoned. How is Trump a traitor? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 On 8/3/2023 at 8:34 AM, heybruce said: I think it would be the strong majority that voted against Trump in 2020, and had the wisdom of their choice confirmed on January 6. "The wisdom of their choice" 555 Look at who the current President is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Berkshire Posted August 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, Neeranam said: "The wisdom of their choice" 555 Look at who the current President is! Yes, a HUGE improvement over the previous. God bless America! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Berkshire said: Yes, a HUGE improvement over the previous. God bless America! I guess the state of the economy and stirring up a war don't count! Edited August 5, 2023 by Neeranam 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted August 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, Neeranam said: "The wisdom of their choice" 555 Look at who the current President is! Yea it’s been horrible with inflation going down and lower drug prices for seniors oh please don’t talk about That gasp horrible infrastructure then the hell of domestically manufactured computer chips nooooo then there’s that nasty low unemployment and the misery of higher wages oh please could it be worse you say ?oh yes the horrible failures of the Biden administration renewing nato standing tall for sovereignty and democracy strengthening our alliances yup our CURRENT president did that so yes I KNOW we made the correct choice 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Tug said: Yea it’s been horrible with inflation going down and lower drug prices for seniors oh please don’t talk about That gasp horrible infrastructure then the hell of domestically manufactured computer chips nooooo then there’s that nasty low unemployment and the misery of higher wages oh please could it be worse you say ?oh yes the horrible failures of the Biden administration renewing nato standing tall for sovereignty and democracy strengthening our alliances yup our CURRENT president did that so yes I KNOW we made the correct choice Yes, Biden is a good president, but he could be a bad president and still be much much better than Mr. Trump. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Neeranam said: How is Trump a traitor? Attempting to overturn the result of a legitimate election, undermining democracy, almost preventing the peaceful handover of the Presidency, stuff like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Neeranam said: I guess the state of the economy and stirring up a war don't count! With the exception of inflation, which is coming down rapidly, the economy is as good or better than under Trump. Putin started the war and Biden responded brilliantly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Neeranam said: "The wisdom of their choice" 555 Look at who the current President is! Yes, such a huge improvement over Trump. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted August 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Neeranam said: I guess the state of the economy and stirring up a war don't count! That won't fly round these parts. The economy is good and most of us don't like Russia right now. Some wars need to be defended, this is one of them. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 (edited) The point here is that the Dems will vote for any candidate because they know they won't fill the swamp with sycophants, surrender Ukraine to Putin, treat the job as their own business empire and sell foreign policy to the highest bidder. Not will they employ their own kids in highly paid government jobs where they can use their position to enrich themselves further. The Republicans only have Trump. The party is so gutted that only spineless cowards are left, hoping that Trump goes down but too afraid to say so. Edited August 5, 2023 by ozimoron 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, ozimoron said: That won't fly round these parts. The economy is good and most of us don't like Russia right now. Some wars need to be defended, this is one of them. Yeah the same isolationist fascist "America First" types were against U.S. involvement in WW2. Many were openly supportive of Hitler the same way many of these Magadonian types are supportive of Putin. Thankfully, such anti American, anti democracy traitors aren't the majority. But the tragic part is that Putin or whoever replaces him is set on keeping up their genocidal war until the 2024 U.S. election because they know if Trump or a similar maga type wins, support for Ukraine will dry up. America First Committee - Wikipedia Edited August 5, 2023 by Jingthing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fondue zoo Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Trump talk is always good for some light trolling on forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutt Daeng Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 I think the title of this topic should be changed, with the word "chance" replaced by "threat". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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