2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

And I think it safe to say a lot of people believe the primary reason Trump is being pursued legally is because he is running.  

Absolutely, and sadly this corrupt Biden government will usually get their way. 

 

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off topic

3 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

And I think it safe to say a lot of people believe the primary reason Trump is being pursued legally is because he is running.  

Mostly the same people who believe that the election was stolen.

3 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Well, DeSantis is on record saying he would pardon Trump if he's elected, so it would seem that if Trump were only running to stay out of jail, he would be much better served just backing DeSantis

Maybe he believes he has a better chance of winning than does Desantis?

3 hours ago, placeholder said:

Maybe he believes he has a better chance of winning than does Desantis?

Maybe, but I think a Trump backed DeSantis would be pretty tough to beat. 

 

 

6 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Another 4 counts. 

 

The Trump campaign called the charges “fake” and asked why it took two-and-a-half years to bring them.

 

LOL.

 

https://apnews.com/article/trump-indicted-jan-6-investigation-special-counsel-debb59bb7a4d9f93f7e2dace01feccdc

The walls are closing in again...

On 8/1/2023 at 3:28 AM, heybruce said:

The man is an immature narcissist and massive security risk.  He reveals classified with the enthusiasm of a child saying "I know something you don't know...".  God help the US and the world if he gets back in office.

god help the world if he doesn't

11 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Maybe, but I think a Trump backed DeSantis would be pretty tough to beat. 

 

 

You fail to account for the incredibly strong negatives that Trump has in a general election. So you're suggesting infecting DeSantis with that. If Trump is convicted, a strong majority would not want that traitor pardoned. 

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You fail to account for the incredibly strong negatives that Trump has in a general election. So you're suggesting infecting DeSantis with that. If Trump is convicted, a strong majority would not want that traitor pardoned. 

Do you have anything recent (besides an opinion piece) that supports your "incredibly strong negatives" comment? 

 

I doubt very much there is a "strong majority" that thinks him a traitor. I would guess it would be the same strong majority that supports gender-resignment for children. 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Do you have anything recent (besides an opinion piece) that supports your "incredibly strong negatives" comment? 

 

I doubt very much there is a "strong majority" that thinks him a traitor. I would guess it would be the same strong majority that supports gender-resignment for children. 

 

 

As usual you disingenuously distort what I said.

 

Doubt away, snookums.

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

As usual you disingenuously distort what I said.

 

Doubt away, snookums.

How did I distort what you said? You said: "If Trump is convicted, a strong majority would not want that traitor pardoned."

 

I said: "I doubt very much there is a "strong majority" that thinks him a traitor."

 

To be clear, If I thought he was a traitor, I would like to see him executed. If he is convicted, from what I've seen, I would like to see him pardoned. 

 

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

How did I distort what you said? You said: "If Trump is convicted, a strong majority would not want that traitor pardoned."

 

I said: "I doubt very much there is a "strong majority" that thinks him a traitor."

 

To be clear, If I thought he was a traitor, I would like to see him executed. If he is convicted, from what I've seen, I would like to see him pardoned. 

 

I'm not going to take on the task of improving your reading comprehension. 

13 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Do you have anything recent (besides an opinion piece) that supports your "incredibly strong negatives" comment? 

 

I doubt very much there is a "strong majority" that thinks him a traitor. I would guess it would be the same strong majority that supports gender-resignment for children.

I think it would be the strong majority that voted against Trump in 2020, and had the wisdom of their choice confirmed on January 6.

On 8/2/2023 at 6:50 PM, Jingthing said:

You fail to account for the incredibly strong negatives that Trump has in a general election. So you're suggesting infecting DeSantis with that. If Trump is convicted, a strong majority would not want that traitor pardoned. 

How is Trump a traitor? 

 

On 8/3/2023 at 8:34 AM, heybruce said:

I think it would be the strong majority that voted against Trump in 2020, and had the wisdom of their choice confirmed on January 6.

"The wisdom of their choice" 555

Look at who the current President is! 

8 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

"The wisdom of their choice" 555

Look at who the current President is! 

Yes, a HUGE improvement over the previous.  God bless America!

4 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

Yes, a HUGE improvement over the previous.  God bless America!

I guess the state of the economy and stirring up a war don't count! 

 

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15 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

"The wisdom of their choice" 555

Look at who the current President is! 

Yea it’s been horrible with inflation going down and lower drug prices for seniors oh please don’t talk about That gasp horrible infrastructure then the hell of domestically manufactured computer chips nooooo then there’s that nasty low unemployment and the misery of higher wages oh please could it be worse you say ?oh yes the horrible failures of the Biden administration renewing nato standing tall for sovereignty and democracy strengthening our alliances yup our CURRENT president did that so yes I KNOW we made the correct choice 

1 hour ago, Tug said:

Yea it’s been horrible with inflation going down and lower drug prices for seniors oh please don’t talk about That gasp horrible infrastructure then the hell of domestically manufactured computer chips nooooo then there’s that nasty low unemployment and the misery of higher wages oh please could it be worse you say ?oh yes the horrible failures of the Biden administration renewing nato standing tall for sovereignty and democracy strengthening our alliances yup our CURRENT president did that so yes I KNOW we made the correct choice 

Yes, Biden is a good president, but he could be a bad president and still be much much better than Mr. Trump. 

3 hours ago, Neeranam said:

How is Trump a traitor? 

 

Attempting to overturn the result of a legitimate election, undermining democracy, almost preventing the peaceful handover of the Presidency, stuff like that.

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

I guess the state of the economy and stirring up a war don't count! 

 

With the exception of inflation, which is coming down rapidly, the economy is as good or better than under Trump.  Putin started the war and Biden responded brilliantly.

2 hours ago, Neeranam said:

"The wisdom of their choice" 555

Look at who the current President is! 

Yes, such a huge improvement over Trump. 

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

I guess the state of the economy and stirring up a war don't count! 

 

That won't fly round these parts. The economy is good and most of us don't like Russia right now. Some wars need to be defended, this is one of them.

The point here is that the Dems will vote for any candidate because they know they won't fill the swamp with sycophants, surrender Ukraine to Putin, treat the job as their own business empire and sell foreign policy to the highest bidder. Not will they employ their own kids in highly paid government jobs where they can use their position to enrich themselves further. The Republicans only have Trump. The party is so gutted that only spineless cowards are left, hoping that Trump goes down but too afraid to say so.

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39 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

That won't fly round these parts. The economy is good and most of us don't like Russia right now. Some wars need to be defended, this is one of them.

Yeah the same isolationist fascist "America First" types were against U.S. involvement in WW2. Many were openly supportive of Hitler the same way many of these Magadonian types are supportive of Putin. 

Thankfully, such anti American, anti democracy traitors aren't the majority.

But the tragic part is that Putin or whoever replaces him is set on keeping up their genocidal war until the 2024 U.S. election because they know if Trump or a similar maga type wins, support for Ukraine will dry up. 

 

America First Committee - Wikipedia

Edited August 5, 20232 yr by Jingthing

Trump talk is always good for some light trolling on forums

I think the title of this topic should be changed, with the word "chance" replaced by "threat".

On 7/31/2023 at 1:10 PM, riclag said:

Only time will tell ! But right now Harvard / Harris shows the Independent voter siding heavily toward 45.

In June Trump was beating biden with Independents by 4% points in this july poll,it went to 18%

points! 
The lines have been drawn on both sides, left & right! The fight is for the Swing vote!

https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/HHP_July2023_KeyResults.pdf

 

 

So why do the Dems lovers think Biden is ahead in the polls? 

It's like they refuse to accept defeat. 

6 hours ago, Neeranam said:

So why do the Dems lovers think Biden is ahead in the polls? 

It's like they refuse to accept defeat. 

I love to explain it in simple terms with facts and a source but unfortunately its off topic ! It has something to do with hate , the 

fear of losing power and the people 

who control the  msm and their minions! Imop

 

 

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15 minutes ago, riclag said:

I love to explain it in simple terms with facts and a source but unfortunately its off topic ! It has something to do with hate , the 

fear of losing power and the people 

who control the  msm and their minions! Imop

 

 

Naaa the reason no one wants trump is because rational folks have seen what’s he’s done and what he brings 

2 hours ago, Tug said:

Naaa the reason no one wants trump is because rational folks have seen what’s he’s done and what he brings 

It seems more than half want Trump.

This is getting bizarre now, did you even read the OP? And it's by CNN, at least they can accept the truth. 

 

No one in Trump’s current polling position in the modern era has lost an open presidential primary that didn’t feature an incumbent. He’s pulling in more than 50% of support in the national primary polls, i.e., more