gwapofarang Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Come on man, ChatGPT is the smartest person ever except for my son Hunter....... Us lefties stick to together like the plague, Let's go Brandon said the crowd, so did uncle Joey. Best president ever! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungod Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, FruitPudding said: Lol, yeah. Try asking it these: 1. Is it okay to be proud of being black? 2. Is it okay to be proud of being white? I honestly can't fathom why its response would be different, but it is.... ???? No bias here then.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Like many of your thoughts, misguided and clouded by a false air of superiority. I never claimed it to be my truth. Thanks for the ad hominem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitPudding Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 17 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Because AI draws of vast swathes of literature, research and data. It has a broad view. Yours is perhaps a little narrower. Or maybe it's just racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitPudding Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, sungod said: No bias here then.... Exactly ???? ???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, KhunLA said: the content, yes, been proven over & over again. Hate when people tell me this, but 'follow the science' ... that is the topic, and what the OP implies and 'scientist' seem to agree, per OP Right, that's why when something is removed from the internet it's gone forever and can never be found again. Oh, it's the opposite of that, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 39 minutes ago, FruitPudding said: The information we are allowed to receive is controlled, so yes. Facebook recently admitted censoring whatever information The White House told them too, mainly about politics and COVID. Do you think Facebook is the internet? Do you think the information removed is gone forever and will never again appear on the internet? Nobody controls the entire internet. Countless parts of the internet are under partial control, but even there the parts and those that control them are so dispersed and have such contrasting objectives as to negate any overall impact of these attempts at control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, heybruce said: ChatGPT is a Large Language Model (LLM) Artificial Intelligence (AI) program. In simple terms, that means it "reads" everything made available to it and provides answers to questions asked based upon the statistical probability of what words would follow such a question based upon all the words it has read. If answers lean liberal, that is probably because liberals are more likely to publish their ideas and will therefore be better represented in the data fed to the program. I'm sure if ChatGPT were asked to describe a typical hero the description would be of a tall, physically fit man and if asked to describe a typical princess the description would be of a young, pretty, "good" girl. Those are the stereotypes that occur in literature (mostly fiction) and so would be used in the answers. ChatGPT doesn't think, it simple provides answers based upon an assessment of all data provided. It's answers need to be evaluated with that in mind. If conservatives want ChatGPT to lean more in a conservative direction, they need to publish more and rely less on videos, radio, podcasts, etc. 20 minutes ago, JonnyF said: AI is still in it's infancy. If it were a human it would be a spotty 16 year old that thinks it knows everything. Once it matures, it will undoubtedly drop the silly left wing bias and move towards the right like most mature adults do (present company excepted). AI doesn't think. It doesn't have consciousness. It doesn't "mature" in any biological or sentient manner. Try reading my earlier post. I think I did a reasonable job of providing a dumbed down description of how LLM AI works. Perhaps it's still above some people's heads. Edited August 17, 2023 by heybruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 4 hours ago, novacova said: AI is just another left bias propaganda tool to further form and reinforce the the minds of the easily lead. Most independent thinking minds can easily decipher and read through the bs. The rest will continue to go with the flow and believe anything that is fed to them. You must be talking about the three Asean Now amigos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: I never claimed it to be my truth. I never said it was your truth. It was your opinion. Misguided again. 7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Thanks for the ad hominem. Condemnant quo non intellegunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitPudding Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 minute ago, heybruce said: Do you think Facebook is the internet? Do you think the information removed is gone forever and will never again appear on the internet? Nobody controls the entire internet. Countless parts of the internet are under partial control, but even there the parts and those that control them are so dispersed and have such contrasting objectives as to negate any overall impact of these attempts at control. Wow, what an amazing response to censorship. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novacova Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 After a few arguments it coped to it… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novacova Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 …it’s just a program made to look as though it’s all knowing and truth bound, though its just another gimmick 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 42 minutes ago, JonnyF said: AI is still in it's infancy. If it were a human it would be a spotty 16 year old that thinks it knows everything. Once it matures, it will undoubtedly drop the silly left wing bias and move towards the right like most mature adults do (present company excepted). 41 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Like many of your thoughts, misguided and clouded by a false air of superiority. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Just now, Slip said: Snappy comeback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 minute ago, JonnyF said: Snappy comeback. It's enough to point out your hypocrisy. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Of course AI has a left wing bias. Any thinking person does. The right wing is populated mainly by criminals. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 32 minutes ago, FruitPudding said: Wow, what an amazing response to censorship. ???? Wow, what an amazing lack of comprehension. Why don't you give a specific example of Facebook censorship and explain how that translates to somebody controlling the entire internet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdey Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 I would hesitate to put the (most certainly) leftist British Labour Party together with the more centrist U.S. Democratic party (in comparison). If AI is left leaning at all it is probably because human development has taken the liberal route over a long time. Female emancipation, end of slavery, social welfare programs are no longer considered leftist but rather the norm. Some may not see it that way though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post patman30 Posted August 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2023 57 minutes ago, JonnyF said: AI is still in it's infancy. If it were a human it would be a spotty 16 year old that thinks it knows everything. Once it matures, it will undoubtedly drop the silly left wing bias and move towards the right like most mature adults do (present company excepted). "AI" is not what you think it is what we all think of as "AI" is actually "AGI" current "AI" does not mature, learn and become wise, it does not have general intelligence it is just a boat load of inputs to get an output whoever controls the inputs essentially controls the output. 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleftheros Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 minute ago, patman30 said: it is just a boat load of inputs to get an output whoever controls the inputs essentially controls the output. And so, if you ask ChatGPT to make the case against weepy hysteria over climate change (as I did), it answers with a screed explaining why you should get hysterical and why you should always, always, listen to your friendly government and obey their diktats. I expect the same obtains for anything to do with Covid, monkey pox, people who identify as cats, and any other topic where there is only one 'official narrative' and everything else is 'disinformation'. It's a chicken-and-egg thing. Did ChatGPT write Wikipedia or did Wikipedia write ChatGPT? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayC Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 44 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: You must be talking about the three Asean Now amigos. Another sharp and incisive comment from a self-proclaimed independent mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Just now, RayC said: Another sharp and incisive comment from a self-proclaimed independent mind. Thanks. For once we agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 minute ago, youreavinalaff said: Thanks. For once we agree. When you lack the ability for self deprecation expect others to do it for you. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ozimoron said: When you lack the ability for self deprecation expect others to do it for you. Thanks. Plenty of that going on here. It's a shame people can't just agree to disagree. Instead they have to make comments about intelligence and education. Edited August 17, 2023 by youreavinalaff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman30 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, Eleftheros said: And so, if you ask ChatGPT to make the case against weepy hysteria over climate change (as I did), it answers with a screed explaining why you should get hysterical and why you should always, always, listen to your friendly government and obey their diktats. I expect the same obtains for anything to do with Covid, monkey pox, people who identify as cats, and any other topic where there is only one 'official narrative' and everything else is 'disinformation'. Exactly. If most of the inputs come from "moderated" sources the output will be no different. The sad part is so many peoiple are using chatGPT thinking it is some miraculous intelligence that can give them all the answers and then they get a warm fuzzy feeling inside when chatGPT reinforces their conformity????♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, sungod said: No bias here then.... It confirms ChatGPT is taking context into account when making replies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitPudding Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 33 minutes ago, heybruce said: Wow, what an amazing lack of comprehension. Why don't you give a specific example of Facebook censorship and explain how that translates to somebody controlling the entire internet? You seem to not mind governments censoring information. The mind boggles. I, on the other hand, think information should not be kept from the people and there should be freedom of speech without censorship. Lack of comprehension? One of the traits of a fascist government is to.........drum roll please........censor information ! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitPudding Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, heybruce said: Why don't you give a specific example of Facebook censorship and explain how that translates to somebody controlling the entire internet? Brain, please. How am I supposed to give an example when the information was censored? Doh ???? ???? By definition: I was not allowed to get that information, so how can I tell you about it? But Facebook admitted it was going on. Edited August 17, 2023 by FruitPudding 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, sungod said: No bias here then.... There’s certainly bias. Arguably the most significant technological revolution in human history and you choose to ask it questions rooted in rightwing grievances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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