Popular Post Social Media Posted August 18, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 18, 2023 Former President Trump’s lawyers are proposing an April 2026 trial in the federal case over his efforts to block the transfer of power after the 2020 election. The Trump team’s suggested start date falls more than two years after the Justice Department’s proposal of Jan. 2, 2024, which the former president’s lawyers argued is meant to “to deny President Trump and his counsel a fair ability to prepare for trial.” They pointed to the “enormous and growing” amount of discovery in the case, the complex and unusual nature of the charges and the defendant, the former president’s stacked legal schedule and the standard timeline of jury-tried cases in arguing for a 2026 start date. Special counsel Jack Smith’s office has produced 11.5 million pages of discovery so far, Trump’s attorneys said. “To put 11.5 million pages in some perspective, we began downloading the government’s initial production on August 13, 2023,” they wrote in Thursday’s filing. “Two days later, it was still downloading.” “Nonetheless, even assuming we could begin reviewing the documents today, we would need to proceed at a pace of 99,762 pages per day to finish the government’s initial production by its proposed date for jury selection,” they added. “That is the entirety of Tolstoy’s War and Peace, cover to cover, 78 times a day, every day, from now until jury selection.” Trump’s lawyers also noted that the case is particularly unusual given that the defendant is a former president currently campaigning for the White House in a race that appears likely to pit him against the current president. Trump already has a packed court schedule as well, with a New York civil trial scheduled for October, a defamation trial scheduled for January, a New York criminal case scheduled for March and a federal case in Florida scheduled for May, they argued. FULL STORY 4
Tug Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 I’ll bet he’d love that lol hope not much better to do before the election preferably televised 2
Chomper Higgot Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 He might as well just come out and say it, he believes himself to be above the law and should never be called to answer for his actions. Drag the spoiled brat into court on the date already set, kicking and screaming if necessary. 2
300sd Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 11.5 million pages of discovery! This happens in most cases of course. Nothing to see here. 1
Popular Post Slip Posted August 18, 2023 Popular Post Posted August 18, 2023 Fine- Incarcerate him while he awaits trial and give him all the time he needs. 1 1 3
Tug Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Slip said: Fine- Incarcerate him while he awaits trial and give him all the time he needs. Ya beat me to it lol ????! 1
bendejo Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 And if he dies before the trial that means he goes down as a winner. The man has a very good mind, as he'd tell you himself. 1 1
pomchop Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, bendejo said: And if he dies before the trial that means he goes down as a winner. The man has a very good mind, as he'd tell you himself. if he could only use that brilliant mind to learn that indictment is not spelled indicate...as any 4th grade spelling bee participant would know...
pomchop Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 Dear donnie...per your request to drag your trial date out for years...."people in hell want ice water but they don't get it".....have a nice day. 1 1
jerrymahoney Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 How Many of Trump’s Trials Will Happen Before the Election?Donald J. Trump is the target of four separate criminal indictments, but the prosecutions could drag on for months or even years. Michael B. Mukasey, a former U.S. attorney general * and longtime Manhattan federal judge, said because of the complex issues raised in all four of Mr. Trump’s cases, “I think the odds are slim to none that any of them gets to trial before the election.” * (2007-2009 under GW Bush) https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/18/nyregion/trump-indictments-trial-2024-election.html https://archive.md/pPGuI#selection-993.0-993.252
LosLobo Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 Interesting article from CNN about how Trump, regardless of the outcome of his four indictments, should be disqualified from even being a POTUS candidate on the basis of the 14th Amendment. 'Prominent conservative legal scholars are increasingly raising a constitutional argument that 2024 Republican candidate Donald Trump should be barred from the presidency because of his actions to overturn the previous presidential election result'. Legal scholars increasingly raise constitutional argument that Trump should be barred from presidency | CNN Politics 1 1
jerrymahoney Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 From the linked article: Luttig and Tribe acknowledge the question of Trump appearing on ballots in 2024 might ultimately have to be decided by the Supreme Court. 1 1
Chomper Higgot Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 55 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said: From the linked article: Luttig and Tribe acknowledge the question of Trump appearing on ballots in 2024 might ultimately have to be decided by the Supreme Court. Well if the GOP refuse to grow a set, leaving it to the SCOTUS to decide if a totally unviable candidate is what the GOP should offer the nation is I suppose their last hope of finding someone else to take responsibility for the mess the GOP have walked into.
jerrymahoney Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: Well if the GOP refuse to grow a set Maybe you have some to spare.
Chomper Higgot Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 4 hours ago, jerrymahoney said: Maybe you have some to spare. Is that the bit where you try to make me the topic of discussion?
jerrymahoney Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: Is that the bit where you try to make me the topic of discussion? I’ve read a lot of your posts, I naturally draw my own conclusions. 1
Sing_Sling Posted August 22, 2023 Posted August 22, 2023 On 8/20/2023 at 7:58 PM, jerrymahoney said: I’ve read a lot of your posts, I naturally draw my own conclusions. He does have a point, though. 1
placeholder Posted August 22, 2023 Posted August 22, 2023 On 8/20/2023 at 3:48 AM, jerrymahoney said: How Many of Trump’s Trials Will Happen Before the Election?Donald J. Trump is the target of four separate criminal indictments, but the prosecutions could drag on for months or even years. Michael B. Mukasey, a former U.S. attorney general * and longtime Manhattan federal judge, said because of the complex issues raised in all four of Mr. Trump’s cases, “I think the odds are slim to none that any of them gets to trial before the election.” * (2007-2009 under GW Bush) https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/18/nyregion/trump-indictments-trial-2024-election.html https://archive.md/pPGuI#selection-993.0-993.252 Michael B. Mukasey? Really? Mukasey on Trump raid: What made it 'impossible' for FBI to use less intrusive measures? https://www.foxnews.com/media/mukasey-trump-raid-made-impossible-fbi-use-less-intrusive-measures
jerrymahoney Posted August 22, 2023 Posted August 22, 2023 Yes. Mukasey. He was quoted in the New York Times. You don't have to agree with him.
placeholder Posted August 22, 2023 Posted August 22, 2023 Legal experts warn Trump’s “ludicrous” proposed 2026 trial date request could blow up in his face Former President Donald Trump's bid to push his D.C. federal trial to 2026 could backfire, two former federal prosecutors warned in an op-ed at the conservative outlet The Bulwark. Trump's proposed April 2026 trial date threatens his legal team's credibility before U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan as pre-trial proceedings begin, wrote former federal prosecutors Frederick Baron and Dennis Aftergut. "Trump's past pattern is that his lawyers lose credibility by kowtowing to his absurd, uninformed demands. https://news.yahoo.com/legal-experts-warn-trump-ludicrous-164437484.html Trump Shoots Himself in the Foot with Demand for Trial Date in 2026 ON THURSDAY, DONALD TRUMP FIRED his first shot in Judge Tanya Chutkan’s courtroom—straight into his own foot. His lawyers proposed to the district court judge that his federal trial on conspiracy and obstruction charges related to the aftermath of the 2020 election and the events of January 6th should not occur until April 2026... Trump’s proposal on the all-important trial date sends an unintended message: that Trump is pressing his lawyers to take legal positions so extreme that they will be entirely disregarded. https://plus.thebulwark.com/p/trump-shoots-himself-in-foot-trial-date-2026 1
jerrymahoney Posted August 22, 2023 Posted August 22, 2023 As noted on different topic, Trump's lawyers said: "In a 16-page filing, attorney Gregory Singer argued for the defense team that putting Trump on trial as requested by prosecutors on Jan. 2, 2024, ... would mark a “rush to trial” that would violate his constitutional rights and be “flatly impossible” given the enormity of the government’s evidence." They raise a constitutional issue which would be for an appeal of any ruling so it seems they do not expect the sitting Judge to agree to their current motion. https://archive.is/2djnJ#selection-505.0-513.150 1
placeholder Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 As the articles I posted immediately above the previous post state, the Trump teams claim that the case is so complicated that it demands an almost 3 year interval before a trial can be held is ludicrous. Far more complicated cases take far less time to come to trial. 1
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