13 year old Thai student stabs classmate due to persistent bullying in Isaan

[webfact]

A 13 year old schoolboy stabbed his classmate claiming that the victim had subjected him to constant bullying at a high school in the Isaan province of Udon Thani.

 

The Sam Phrao Sub-district Administration Organisation (SAO) rescue team rushed to the school to aid the injured schoolboy, 13 year old Joe. He was found lying on the bed in the school first aid room with a stab wound to his chest and a cut on his left palm.

The attacker, 13 year old A, was later transferred to the Mueang Udon Thani Police Station for questioning. The knife used in the attack was seized as evidence.

 

A admitted to his violent act and claimed that he had been persistently bullied by the victim, Joe, for a long time. A said Joe always thought he was superior and sought the chance to bully him even though they studied in a different classroom.

 

by Petch Petpailin

Photo via Channel 8

 

Full story: https://thethaiger.com/news/national/13-year-old-thai-student-stabs-classmate-due-to-persistent-bullying-in-isaan

 

-- [source] 2023-08-24

 

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[foreverlomsak]

It is my impression that the world (not just Thailand) is getting more violent, and more are using any kind of weapon or am I wrong?

In my day at school yes bullying happened, but was generally solved by a slap round the earhole, practically nobody carried knives to school so none could be used.

[rbkk]

5 minutes ago, foreverlomsak said:

It is my impression that the world (not just Thailand) is getting more violent, and more are using any kind of weapon or am I wrong?

In my day at school yes bullying happened, but was generally solved by a slap round the earhole, practically nobody carried knives to school so none could be used.

Schools seem to be leading the way in increased violence and death. It's happening nationwide, regularly, and only the use of weapons is being reported. Schools are trying to save face and are in denial.

[spidermike007]

Bullying is a terrible crime. Some take it way too far. Not saying I condone this response, but the bully did have some sort of price to pay, at some point in his life. 

[milesinnz]

If you want to get to the bottom of these issues, the question to ask is "what was the home environment of the boy who was doing the bullying like".. but we as a society do not have the slightest interest in addressing the real causes of social tension which exhibits itself in so many different ways. It is at the end of the day a total failure of leadership be in the school leadership, political leadership or even Police leadership - and a lot more. We live in a society where the WRONG people are in charge of the boat and don't have a clue what they are doing or where they are going. People "like" to think that good overcomes evil - it most certainly does not and the world we are in and the future clearly demonstrates that most often evil reigns supreme..

[Deli]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

A 13 year old schoolboy stabbed his classmate claiming that the victim had subjected him to constant bullying at a high school in the Isaan province of Udon Thani.

 

The Sam Phrao Sub-district Administration Organisation (SAO) rescue team rushed to the school to aid the injured schoolboy, 13 year old Joe. He was found lying on the bed in the school first aid room with a stab wound to his chest and a cut on his left palm.

The attacker, 13 year old A, was later transferred to the Mueang Udon Thani Police Station for questioning. The knife used in the attack was seized as evidence.

 

A admitted to his violent act and claimed that he had been persistently bullied by the victim, Joe, for a long time. A said Joe always thought he was superior and sought the chance to bully him even though they studied in a different classroom.

 

by Petch Petpailin

Photo via Channel 8

 

Full story: https://thethaiger.com/news/national/13-year-old-thai-student-stabs-classmate-due-to-persistent-bullying-in-isaan

 

-- [source] 2023-08-24

 

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Well done A. An eye for an eye.

[youreavinalaff]

33 minutes ago, milesinnz said:

that most often evil reigns supreme..

Not really.

 

People being nice to each other doesn't make a gripping headline.

 

We usually only get to hear of evil goings on.

 

Example : There's been a media frenzy in UK about the baby killing nurse. I've not seen any articles about the thousands of other neonatal nurses that are doing well taking care of babies in hospitals.

[itsallmine68]

2 hours ago, foreverlomsak said:

It is my impression that the world (not just Thailand) is getting more violent, and more are using any kind of weapon or am I wrong?

In my day at school yes bullying happened, but was generally solved by a slap round the earhole, practically nobody carried knives to school so none could be used.

The world is not getting more violent. We just have more avenues in getting this news (The internet) Years ago we would have never heard of this news article or many others

[hotchilli]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Bullying is a terrible crime. Some take it way too far. Not saying I condone this response, but the bully did have some sort of price to pay, at some point in his life. 

The worm turns... 

[JensenZ]

49 minutes ago, itsallmine68 said:

The world is not getting more violent. We just have more avenues in getting this news (The internet) Years ago we would have never heard of this news article or many others

I agree. Anyone who thinks the world is getting more violent needs a history lesson or two.

[markus]

1 hour ago, milesinnz said:

If you want to get to the bottom of these issues, the question to ask is "what was the home environment of the boy who was doing the bullying like".. but we as a society do not have the slightest interest in addressing the real causes of social tension which exhibits itself in so many different ways. It is at the end of the day a total failure of leadership be in the school leadership, political leadership or even Police leadership - and a lot more. We live in a society where the WRONG people are in charge of the boat and don't have a clue what they are doing or where they are going. People "like" to think that good overcomes evil - it most certainly does not and the world we are in and the future clearly demonstrates that most often evil reigns supreme..

True words.

[steven100]

I sincerely hope someone is with A when this bully knucklehead gets out of hospital.  The problem might be that the bully tries to get revenge on A .....   and A has no help from any elderly of school teachers.

[Tropposurfer]

1 hour ago, milesinnz said:

If you want to get to the bottom of these issues, the question to ask is "what was the home environment of the boy who was doing the bullying like".. but we as a society do not have the slightest interest in addressing the real causes of social tension which exhibits itself in so many different ways. It is at the end of the day a total failure of leadership be in the school leadership, political leadership or even Police leadership - and a lot more. We live in a society where the WRONG people are in charge of the boat and don't have a clue what they are doing or where they are going. People "like" to think that good overcomes evil - it most certainly does not and the world we are in and the future clearly demonstrates that most often evil reigns supreme..

Thanks miles ... yes, hurt people often hurt others.

 

I am sad to hear of someone being stabbed. I also confess to being glad the child stood up for himself, albeit lament on how he nearly killed someone. 

 

I'd add that while socialised, obvious violence there are subtler forms of bullying that are harder to recognise from the obvious forms e.g. hitting, slapping, poking, pushing, standing over, punching, eliciting others to physically hurt a person, damaging others property, the overt and covert threat of harm if someone making doesn't avert the eyes or step aside to make way, mocking, degrading, gossiping and lying about someone in a systematic continuous pattern are the more subtle forms as far as society is concerned anyway.

 

All these promote withdrawal e.g. physically, emotionally and verbally, and as the pain of being bullied deepens then isolation/disconnection from self becomes dominant.

 

Sadly self-harm, and other forms of coping/maladaption are common in victims.

 

Self-harm can take years to emerge often showing itself in heavy chemical use, inability to form and maintain deep nurturing relationships. Such chemical misuse is to dampen-down the pain that results from the powerlessness, humiliation, and terror felt during the bullying, and the rage that often arrives later.

Conversely some bullied people adapt to become violent themselves e.g Mike Tyson is a perfect example. He was bullied for his way of speaking, and, abandoned as a child.

 

What always accompanies 'successful' bullying is isolation of the victim. This is where others who see bullying come in to break this isolation and to support the bullied.

 

As far as the home environment supporting any predisposition to being bullied I would say from my work it absolutely does.

 

In the home landscape we often see dynamics where avenues to speak up or to be heard for some reason/s are absent or extremely tricky to negotiate e.g. the parents are overwhelmed with life's issues e.g. sickness, poverty, lack of their developmental stages.

Patriarchal rules and mockery for showing any vulnerability, man-up and boys don't cry or complain or ask for help are a few common ones that don't help males who are less Alpha (who feel and are more soulful).

For girls its often about physical appearance, being studious, and 'deep' in thought and reflection and singled out as being 'weird'. 

 

A strong statistical connection to bullying in the wider world comes for kids who have been sexually abused by someone.

 

Perhaps the parents are in conflict with each other, perhaps there is addiction in the family system and this takes up all the space and energy to love functionally, and causes resentment and dumping of this on any convenient weaker member.

Often we see social and familial 'rules' supported by frameworks of rigidity in thought and action that provides a fertile ground for future victims of bullies. Religiousity is one form of moral and behavioural rigidity that can condone use of bullying, actually admired and central to its tenets.

 

It may not be as overt as e.g. hitting, or loudly chastising, obviously intimidating one or more in the family. Witnessing one of their family members whom one loves being hurt can be carried by another as themself being bullied.

This 'schooling' of others in abuse often takes the form of psychological abuse ... a subtler use of power and control of others. Women do this too. 

 

I would encourage all A.N. readers to take courage and when seeing any form of harm to others to intervene. If seeing children harmed or showing signs of abuse to speak up to authorities or directly yourself.

 

If you've been bullied yourself I encourage you to not blame yourself (turn it inwards) and deny it by pushing it down but to talk with a compassionate 'good listener'.

 

If you are still frightened of being hurt and find people intimidating then get some counselling, maybe go talk to a good self-defence teacher, take a risk and sit and share some of your fears and timidity and your hope of becoming less afraid and ask for his help and learn how to protect yourself.

 

Get some of the fear and rage out of your bodies in a gym with coaches to control the learning in self defence.     

[This Guy]

I, was a victim of bullying from 1st to 3rd year of high school in Oz back in the 80's due to my being from a poor family. Finally on one fateful day I lost it and ignored the "It takes the better man to walk away advice" and fought back after the POS nemesis spat in my lunch. We both learned a good lesson that day. He learned don't do it again. Me I learned I could fight and went on to State Champ and National number 2 before retiring.
Bullies need a come-uppance.  Just maybe not a knife

 

 

[retarius]

I got bullied by a kid at school and when the school bus was coming I shoved him into the road. He nearly <deleted> himself, but I never had any trouble with him or anyone else afterwards.

[bradiston]

1 hour ago, This Guy said:

I, was a victim of bullying from 1st to 3rd year of high school in Oz back in the 80's due to my being from a poor family. Finally on one fateful day I lost it and ignored the "It takes the better man to walk away advice" and fought back after the POS nemesis spat in my lunch. We both learned a good lesson that day. He learned don't do it again. Me I learned I could fight and went on to State Champ and National number 2 before retiring.
Bullies need a come-uppance.  Just maybe not a knife

 

 

I had a similar break point reaction when rage went into murderous overdrive. Lucky it just lasted a few seconds, but as humans, when attack mode takes over from defense - well I'll say one thing for it, it clears the old head! Everybody backed off and we all walked away unharmed, but a lot wiser.

[mushroomdave]

I am going to go out on a limb here but I'm pretty sure good old Joe may think twice before making any more of his bullying comments once he's out......you think?

Edited August 24, 2023 by mushroomdave

[AustinRacing]

Guess who’s gonna be bullied no more?

[observer90210]

What one could call a "daily interaction violence" (just made it up), seems to be a global hit.

 

All started with mental issues getting enhanced during the Covid for many.

 

Just when the COVID mess was supposed to be over, came up that horrible war in eastern europe, that is having collateral effects globally, due to the absurd sanctions, no matter what the ranters may argue.

 

When spending power is subdued, future perspectives put to doubt etc...not matter where, Europe or Asia, it affects people, creates a domino effect that ends up in violent reactions. Obviously such tragedies or anger existed long before COVID or the war.

 

But these situations increased the issues and made it all worse by breaking a fragile global balance that kept people more or less afloat.

Edited August 24, 2023 by observer90210

[radiochaser]

21 hours ago, foreverlomsak said:

It is my impression that the world (not just Thailand) is getting more violent, and more are using any kind of weapon or am I wrong?

In my day at school yes bullying happened, but was generally solved by a slap round the earhole, practically nobody carried knives to school so none could be used.

Off the topic of Thai school stabbings.  

 

I went to school in the late 1950's through the late 1960's.  A lot of kids had knives they took to schools.   I didn't just go to one school, I went to more than most, excepting other military brats, because my dad was in the Army.   
The worst knife wound I knew of was caused by the girlfriend of a guy who accidently cut the fingers of her boyfriend, after asking to see his knife.   When he went to take his knife back, he grabbed the blade and she was startled and jerked her hand back.   
The other person who shed blood was a friend of mine who would cut himself almost every time he borrowed my knife, because he was not used to having a sharp knife.  
Other that those and several other minor cuts by knife, almost exclusively self inflicted wounds by the knife owner, no one was seriously hurt. 
Knives were not a problem and neither were firearms, which showed up at one high school every time hunting season opened.  Mostly shotguns and .22's.   My last year in high school I shot 50 rounds a day M-F for practice and 50 on Saturday during competition.    The biggest fear was being taken off the rifle team for effing up!

Edited August 25, 2023 by radiochaser

[J Branche]

I was bullied in middle school.  Luckily, cool kid moved in next to me and became friends.  Bully stopped after couple weeks because the cool kid influence.  I was not cool, but not uncool so they tolerated me hanging around.  I was an okay Comedian also.

 

Back to the cause, others have mentioned the bullies home life may be cause, psychological disorder, they are bullying to highlight someone else's weakness and for the bully to feel better about their own problems.

 

Everyone should recognize each of us have different tolerance levels before we react.  It is the accumulation of constant bullying over a shorter period of time that usually triggers a response.

 

I believe that some basic form of behavioral psychology should be taught in schools.  Just basic, how our mind works, natural biases, distorted perspectives, trigger responses, people are a product of their environment (home, school, city they live in) and will mimic others actions.  

 

Lastly, everyone should know or find someone who can Help.  Who are not judgmental, can keep matter private, and focus on addressing and correcting the issue without all the drama and theatrics.

 

I'm proud of some of the contributions in this post addressing the causes and offering solutions.

[Jaggg88]

On 8/24/2023 at 7:48 PM, mushroomdave said:

I am going to go out on a limb here but I'm pretty sure good old Joe may think twice before making any more of his bullying comments once he's out......you think?

That's my experience with bullies - once they've been stood up to they back off and when they return they want to be your best friend