Social Media Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Russia says 10 bodies and flight recorders have been recovered from the scene of a jet crash presumed to have killed Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin. "Molecular-genetic tests are now being carried out," investigators say. The plane crashed near Moscow on Wednesday, prompting speculation that a bomb or a missile was to blame. Claims that the Kremlin gave an order to kill Prigozhin were a "complete lie", Russian President Vladimir Putin's spokesman told the BBC earlier. Prigozhin - once a Putin loyalist - led an aborted armed revolt by his mercenary fighters in June. Mr Putin at the time described the mutiny as "treachery", but a deal was later struck for Wagner mercenaries to either join Russia's regular army or go to Belarus - Moscow's ally. Even so, in the wake of the rebellion, many observers described Prigozhin, 62, as a "dead man walking", arguing that the Russian president would never forgive the Wagner boss. During Friday's conference call with journalists, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told the BBC there was "lots of speculation" around the "tragic" deaths of all 10 people in Wednesday's air crash in the Tver region, north-west of the Russian capital. FULL STORY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Still won’t believe pergozin is dead need proof preferably the carcass for independent dna analysis as far as Putin denying responsibility I’m not buying it 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 27 minutes ago, Tug said: Still won’t believe pergozin is dead need proof preferably the carcass for independent dna analysis as far as Putin denying responsibility I’m not buying it We'll never know. (Unless he foolishly pops up somewhere) Even with fingerprints and DNA, we'd be depending on some gub'ment entity for the identification. One with a dog in the fight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 How convenient that there was a CC camera in the vicinity to record the crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigupandchill Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 The russians and chinese are desperately trying to wrest control away from the USA and her allies. Is this what their new world order would look like? God help us all if it were ever allowed to happen. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/dead-wagner-boss-seen-new-30828099 You're not going to believe this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 5 hours ago, Danderman123 said: https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/dead-wagner-boss-seen-new-30828099 You're not going to believe this. I believe the video has been dated the week previously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyinBangrak Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 12 hours ago, stevenl said: I believe the video has been dated the week previously. Seems so. I believe he would have more directly referenced the plane bomb had it really been after the event not in general terms. I'll call this 75/25 he's no longer with us, but who can really be sure. It would be good to see his assassination having failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 33 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Seems so. I believe he would have more directly referenced the plane bomb had it really been after the event not in general terms. I'll call this 75/25 he's no longer with us, but who can really be sure. It would be good to see his assassination having failed. It would be good to see his assassination having failed. Yes you lost a comrade, never mind eh.............. Russia's Prigozhin admits interfering in U.S. elections "We have interfered (in U.S. elections), we are interfering and we will continue to interfere. Carefully, accurately, surgically and in our own way, as we know how to do." The remark by the close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin was posted on the eve of the U.S. midterm elections in response to a request for comment from a Russian news site. "During our pinpoint operations, we will remove both kidneys and the liver at once," Prigozhin said. He did not elaborate on the cryptic comment. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/russias-prigozhin-admits-interfering-us-elections-2022-11-07/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyinBangrak Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 4 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: It would be good to see his assassination having failed. Yes you lost a comrade, never mind eh.............. Russia's Prigozhin admits interfering in U.S. elections "We have interfered (in U.S. elections), we are interfering and we will continue to interfere. Carefully, accurately, surgically and in our own way, as we know how to do." The remark by the close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin was posted on the eve of the U.S. midterm elections in response to a request for comment from a Russian news site. "During our pinpoint operations, we will remove both kidneys and the liver at once," Prigozhin said. He did not elaborate on the cryptic comment. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/russias-prigozhin-admits-interfering-us-elections-2022-11-07/ It was a bad time for Russia having to stop the Ukraine invasion from 2016-2020. Clearly western weakness is no deterrent to despots. Due to not wanting deaths of any humans due to ideological differences I want this war over immediately. If that makes me a Prighozin comrade, so be it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 17 hours ago, stevenl said: I believe the video has been dated the week previously. Yep, it looks like it was recorded August 19-20, when he was in Africa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 12 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said: It was a bad time for Russia having to stop the Ukraine invasion from 2016-2020. Clearly western weakness is no deterrent to despots. Due to not wanting deaths of any humans due to ideological differences I want this war over immediately. If that makes me a Prighozin comrade, so be it. KInda of hypocritical of you there, so just ignore that he's implicated in Russia’s ongoing genocide in Ukraine and the fact that he's admitted to interfering in US elections but that's ok, he's still your comrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyinBangrak Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 15 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: KInda of hypocritical of you there, so just ignore that he's implicated in Russia’s ongoing genocide in Ukraine and the fact that he's admitted to interfering in US elections but that's ok, he's still your comrade. Russia's ongoing genocide vs de-nazification. (I would like to link the montage of dozens of highly credible western media stating Ukraine is a Nazi epicenter but..) As for election interference, Im sure it was nowhere near as terrible as the 51 formerly credible intel officers disinfo before the 2020 vote. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Just now, SunnyinBangrak said: Russia's ongoing genocide vs de-nazification. (I would like to link the montage of dozens of highly credible western media stating Ukraine is a Nazi epicenter but..) As for election interference, Im sure it was nowhere near as terrible as the 51 formerly credible intel officers disinfo before the 2020 vote. Russia's ongoing genocide vs de-nazification Tell me a little more about that and don't forget to include the Nazi affiliation of the Wagner co-founder Utkin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 6 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: It would be good to see his assassination having failed. Yes you lost a comrade, never mind eh.............. Russia's Prigozhin admits interfering in U.S. elections "We have interfered (in U.S. elections), we are interfering and we will continue to interfere. Carefully, accurately, surgically and in our own way, as we know how to do." The remark by the close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin was posted on the eve of the U.S. midterm elections in response to a request for comment from a Russian news site. "During our pinpoint operations, we will remove both kidneys and the liver at once," Prigozhin said. He did not elaborate on the cryptic comment. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/russias-prigozhin-admits-interfering-us-elections-2022-11-07/ You mean the safest election in US history? The election that people are going to jail for even contesting the results? The one where simply looking into shenanigans is cause to impeach and prosecute your opponent? You can't have it both ways... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Just now, impulse said: You mean the safest election in US history? The election that people are going to jail for even contesting the results? The one where simply looking into shenanigans is cause to impeach and prosecute your opponent? You can't have it both ways... Actually he was referring to the U.S. midterm elections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Actually he was referring to the U.S. midterm elections No, he answered the question on the eve of a midterm. Not at all the same thing. "We have interfered (in U.S. elections), we are interfering and we will continue to interfere. Carefully, accurately, surgically and in our own way, as we know how to do." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Just now, impulse said: No, he answered the question on the eve of a midterm. Not at all the same thing. "We have interfered (in U.S. elections), we are interfering and we will continue to interfere. Carefully, accurately, surgically and in our own way, as we know how to do." Well of course but in this instance it was the mid terms that was targeted But its a well known tactic thats been going on for years How the Russian Web Brigade uses its troll farms to target America The Internet Research Agency primarily based in St Petersburg is accused of running fake news for election interference in the 2016 US elections. Owner of the company Yevgeny Prigozhin is identified to be head of the web brigade. The 22-month Mueller investigation concluded on the 17th March 2020 with charges being dropped. The U.S. Justice Department has communicated the difficulty proceeding with the case as it classifies evidence-based US intelligence risks exposing secrets. The troll farms are also being utilized for the aid of Pro-Russian regimes in Africa. https://sofrep.com/news/how-the-russian-web-brigade-uses-its-troll-farms-to-target-america/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: Well of course but in this instance it was the mid terms that was targeted But its a well known tactic thats been going on for years So, shouldn't someone who's been trying to expose the malfeasance be venerated as a patriot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, impulse said: So, shouldn't someone who's been trying to expose the malfeasance be venerated as a patriot? The meddling was done to favour the republicans. This is all well documented in plenty of reports, are you not aware of this? Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections The Russian government interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election with the goals of harming the campaign of Hillary Clinton, boosting the candidacy of Donald Trump, and increasing political and social discord in the United States. Edited September 2, 2023 by Bkk Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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