Trump trial in Fulton County will be televised, judge says

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Former President Donald Trump's trial in Fulton County, Georgia, will be televised and live streamed, a judge said Thursday. 

Fulton County Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee said he will allow a YouTube stream of all related hearings and trials stemming from the investigation into an alleged scheme to overturn the state's 2020 presidential election results. The live stream will be operated by the court. There will also be pool coverage for television, radio and still photography allowed, he said.

The former president has pleaded not guilty in the case. He surrendered last week at the Fulton County jail, after he and 18 others were indicted for allegedly participating in a "criminal enterprise" that aimed to overturn his loss in Georgia's 2020 presidential election. Trump is charged with 13 felony counts. 

A date for his trial has not yet been set. 

This would be the first time cameras would be allowed to capture full proceedings in one of the four criminal cases brought against Trump this year. Georgia allows cameras in the courtroom as long as they do not disrupt proceedings. 

A number of photographers were allowed inside the courtroom for a few minutes before the start of the hearing in Trump's arraignment in New York in April, before they had to leave. Cameras are typically not allowed in New York courtrooms but news organizations had asked for an exception. 

 

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[Tug]

Now there’s some good news facts unfiltered by the media old Donnie’s not gonna be a happy camper I wish they would televise the document case as well

[2baht]

1 minute ago, Tug said:

Now there’s some good news facts unfiltered by the media old Donnie’s not gonna be a happy camper I wish they would televise the document case as well

But, but he claims he did'nt do anything wrong! He'll treat this like a celebrity appearance! Watch the buffoon milk it for more than it's worth!

[Tug]

2 minutes ago, 2baht said:

But, but he claims he did'nt do anything wrong! He'll treat this like a celebrity appearance! Watch the buffoon milk it for more than it's worth!

It’s going to be hard for him when confronted with facts unable to spin and lie he will have to sit at that table as the prosecutor tears him apart bit by bit he’s going to go from orange to red on camera live on tv and quite possibly turn purple as well

[Emdog]

Good. I'll have to put myself on "vampire sleep schedule" as trial will be 12 hrs time difference from here (for part, daylight savings and all east coast)

[LosLobo]

1 hour ago, Tug said:

It’s going to be hard for him when confronted with facts unable to spin and lie he will have to sit at that table as the prosecutor tears him apart bit by bit he’s going to go from orange to red on camera live on tv and quite possibly turn purple as well

Maybe not buy the popcorn yet!

 

Sadly, it seems in Georgia law a defendant may not need to attend his own trial.

 

 

Does Trump need to attend his trial?

 

'The Sixth Amendment guarantees the right to attend trial and confront witnesses, but a defendant can waive that right. In federal cases, Rule 43 of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure requires a defendant to attend trial in all but a few circumstances. However, there is no equivalent rule in Georgia, and Georgia rules permit a judge to continue the trial in a party’s absence if a party is prevented from attending–which suggests that a party’s presence is not required. GA Code § 17-8-23'.

 

What to Expect When You're Expecting a Georgia Indictment of Trump (justsecurity.org)

[ozimoron]

7 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Maybe not buy the popcorn yet!

 

Sadly, it seems in Georgia law a defendant may not need to attend his own trial.

 

 

Does Trump need to attend his trial?

 

'The Sixth Amendment guarantees the right to attend trial and confront witnesses, but a defendant can waive that right. In federal cases, Rule 43 of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure requires a defendant to attend trial in all but a few circumstances. However, there is no equivalent rule in Georgia, and Georgia rules permit a judge to continue the trial in a party’s absence if a party is prevented from attending–which suggests that a party’s presence is not required. GA Code § 17-8-23'.

 

What to Expect When You're Expecting a Georgia Indictment of Trump (justsecurity.org)

It doesn't matter much. The evidence will be laid out in court anyway. Especially that of the flippers and they will need to be in court.

[ozimoron]

Trump is going to blame Powell and Giuliani and they will blame him. The trials are likely to be separated at Trump's behest and popcorn sales will explode.

[ozimoron]

'Mark Meadows has a potential perjury problem'

 

Court documents obtained by Goodman show Meadows after initially denying that he played “any role” in the coordination of a “fake elector” scheme under cross examination acknowledged that “he had in fact given direction to a campaign official in this regard. Specifically, the defendant wrote in an email…’We just need to have someone coordinating the electors for the states’ and attached a memorandum written by co-defendant Kenneth Chesebro recommending the organization of slates of presidential electors to meet and cast votes for Mr. Trump in states Mr. Trump had lost.”

 

https://www.rawstory.com/mark-meadows-2664718865/

 

 

[JonnyF]

I can't help but feel the weaponization of the justice system against Trump could backfire badly if it is televised.

 

He's going to be in his element and whatever you think of him it's hard to deny the man has charisma. The whole nation will be glued to it, Trump will be hilarious and there is no such thing as bad publicity, 

 

 

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27 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

I can't help but feel the weaponization of the justice system against Trump could backfire badly if it is televised.

 

He's going to be in his element and whatever you think of him it's hard to deny the man has charisma. The whole nation will be glued to it, Trump will be hilarious and there is no such thing as bad publicity, 

 

 

You must think Trump has a high favorability rating if you think resorting to his usual antics in a courtroom will work in his favor.

[jerrymahoney]

First test in Georgia v. Trump: Can prosecutors keep home-court advantage?
At a key Monday hearing, a federal judge will consider a bid to move the case out of the state court system.

 

For the moment, Trump himself has not asked for a transfer — formally known as a “removal” — to federal court.

 

Trump still has plenty of time to seek a transfer. Under federal law, that deadline won’t come for more than a month.

 

Meanwhile, he can sit back and see what happens Monday, sizing up Jones — an appointee of former President Barack Obama — and assessing the judge’s openness to arguments that the case properly belongs in federal court because some of the defendants held posts in the federal government at the time of the 2020 election.

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/28/georgia-trump-removal-hearing-federal-court-00113149

[JonnyF]

26 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You must think Trump has a high favorability rating if you think resorting to his usual antics in a courtroom will work in his favor.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66274979

 

[billd766]

24 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

First test in Georgia v. Trump: Can prosecutors keep home-court advantage?
At a key Monday hearing, a federal judge will consider a bid to move the case out of the state court system.

 

For the moment, Trump himself has not asked for a transfer — formally known as a “removal” — to federal court.

 

Trump still has plenty of time to seek a transfer. Under federal law, that deadline won’t come for more than a month.

 

Meanwhile, he can sit back and see what happens Monday, sizing up Jones — an appointee of former President Barack Obama — and assessing the judge’s openness to arguments that the case properly belongs in federal court because some of the defendants held posts in the federal government at the time of the 2020 election.

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/28/georgia-trump-removal-hearing-federal-court-00113149

Whilst he may have the right to move to a federal court, IIRC that would be for a federal offence.

 

In Georgia he is charged with State and NOT federal charges, so even if he wins the potus election, he cannot grant a federal pardon for himself or any other defendant in a state case.

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12 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66274979

 

Strengthened his position among Republicans.

As for his favorability ratings:

 

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/donald-trump/

[jerrymahoney]

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

Whilst he may have the right to move to a federal court, IIRC that would be for a federal offence.

 

In Georgia he is charged with State and NOT federal charges, so even if he wins the potus election, he cannot grant a federal pardon for himself or any other defendant in a state case.

Not correct. The 'removal' would be because the individual was acting 'under the color' of his current Federal position in the Trump administration. If the judge so rules.

 

But the conviction would be under State of Georgia so no federal pardon possible. Correct.

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66274979

 

Your screen and link above dated 2nd Aug: A lot has happened since then. Here's a more recent one from Aug 28th.

 

"A new Emerson College Polling survey of U.S. voters following the August Republican Primary debate finds half of Republican Primary voters (50%) plan to vote for Donald Trump, the lowest support to date for the former President in Emerson national polls. Trump’s support has dropped by six percentage points since last week’s pre-debate national poll."

 

https://emersoncollegepolling.com/august-2023-national-poll-trump-debate-snub-may-open-door-for-other-candidates/

 

Trump was highest in April with 62%. I bet he won't be posting this on his truth Social 

 

Emerson College has an A rating from fivethirtyeight for its accuracy.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/emerson-college/

Edited September 1, 2023 by Bkk Brian

[ozimoron]

11 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Your screen and link above dated 2nd Aug: Here's a more recent one from Aug 28th, after surrendering for his mug

 

"A new Emerson College Polling survey of U.S. voters following the August Republican Primary debate finds half of Republican Primary voters (50%) plan to vote for Donald Trump, the lowest support to date for the former President in Emerson national polls. Trump’s support has dropped by six percentage points since last week’s pre-debate national poll."

 

https://emersoncollegepolling.com/august-2023-national-poll-trump-debate-snub-may-open-door-for-other-candidates/

 

Trump was highest in April with 62%. I bet he won't be posting this on his truth Social 

 

Emerson College has an A rating from fivethirtyeight for its accuracy.

That's already an election losing number. The slippery slope has begun. The chickens are coming home to roost. The eagle has landed. Oh wait, that last part is evidence is in the conspiracy indictment.

Edited September 1, 2023 by ozimoron

[JonnyF]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Your screen and link above dated 2nd Aug: A lot has happened since then. Here's a more recent one from Aug 28th.

 

"A new Emerson College Polling survey of U.S. voters following the August Republican Primary debate finds half of Republican Primary voters (50%) plan to vote for Donald Trump, the lowest support to date for the former President in Emerson national polls. Trump’s support has dropped by six percentage points since last week’s pre-debate national poll."

 

https://emersoncollegepolling.com/august-2023-national-poll-trump-debate-snub-may-open-door-for-other-candidates/

 

Trump was highest in April with 62%. I bet he won't be posting this on his truth Social 

 

Emerson College has an A rating from fivethirtyeight for its accuracy.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/emerson-college/

Time will tell. Trump on the stand, "sticking it to the man" as he will no doubt portray it, in front of millions of people watching live on TV could be a very effective strategy.

 

I'm just not sure that the Dems unleashing their justice department on the opposite side like a rabid dog will play well with the electorate. Let's see.

[Bkk Brian]

6 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Time will tell. Trump on the stand, "sticking it to the man" as he will no doubt portray it, in front of millions of people watching live on TV could be a very effective strategy.

 

I'm just not sure that the Dems unleashing their justice department on the opposite side like a rabid dog will play well with the electorate. Let's see.

You quoted an out of date poll but now you say your not sure when new ones are conducted.....lol

 

Here's another for you:

 

Lock Him Up? A New Poll Has Some Bad News for Trump

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/08/25/ipsos-poll-trump-indictment-00112755

Edited September 1, 2023 by Bkk Brian

[jerrymahoney]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

That's already an election losing number. The slippery slope has begun. The chickens are coming home to roost. The eagle has landed. Oh wait, that last part is evidence is in the conspiracy indictment.

From the above linked Emerson Poll:

 

In a hypothetical matchup between Trump and Biden, 46% would vote for Trump and 44% Biden. 

 

Despite losing ground in the Republican Primary, support for Donald Trump in a hypothetical matchup against Joe Biden increased two points since last week’s poll,” Kimball said.

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29 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

I'm just not sure that the Dems unleashing their justice department on the opposite side like a rabid dog will play well with the electorate. Let's see.

I'm sure it wouldn't play well. Good thing nothing like that is happening.

[Chomper Higgot]

4 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

First test in Georgia v. Trump: Can prosecutors keep home-court advantage?
At a key Monday hearing, a federal judge will consider a bid to move the case out of the state court system.

 

For the moment, Trump himself has not asked for a transfer — formally known as a “removal” — to federal court.

 

Trump still has plenty of time to seek a transfer. Under federal law, that deadline won’t come for more than a month.

 

Meanwhile, he can sit back and see what happens Monday, sizing up Jones — an appointee of former President Barack Obama — and assessing the judge’s openness to arguments that the case properly belongs in federal court because some of the defendants held posts in the federal government at the time of the 2020 election.

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/28/georgia-trump-removal-hearing-federal-court-00113149

Oh no, he’s going to get away with it all.

[jerrymahoney]

Trump’s Georgia trial is readied for TV, while others are hard to see
While the former president’s proceedings in other jurisdictions remain largely off-camera, Georgia offers a whole new level of media access

Updated September 1, 2023

 

On Thursday, the Atlanta-area judge overseeing the racketeering case gave the go-ahead for live TV and streaming video coverage of his trial, probably the only occasion the general public could have opportunity to watch him sit through courtroom proceedings amid the heat of a 2024 campaign.
 

The ruling by Fulton County Superior Court Judge Scott F. McAfee carries several big question marks. First, it’s unclear when exactly Trump will stand trial; the judge hasn’t set a date. Second, Trump’s attorneys could still ask to move the case to federal court; co-defendant Mark Meadows, Trump’s former chief of staff, argued for such a change of venue this week. If that happens, it would render McAfee’s ruling about televising moot.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2023/09/01/trump-trial-livestream-televised/

 

[2baht]

16 hours ago, JonnyF said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66274979

 

Why? Because there are mindless idiots who believe his BS! Wake up, America, he's making you look stupider everyday! ????

 

 

Edited September 1, 2023 by 2baht

[HappyExpat57]

The REAL question - will 45 supporters continue to deny even though the facts are laid out in real time living color? Will the Sean Hannity's or Tucker Carlsons of the world cut and past the videos to contradict what is actually going on?

 

I was surprised and hold on to hope when I saw the Repubs publicly admonish Tucker's bogus rendition of the Jan 6 footage he received from that spineless Speaker.

 

Time will tell.

[Tug]

16 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Time will tell. Trump on the stand, "sticking it to the man" as he will no doubt portray it, in front of millions of people watching live on TV could be a very effective strategy.

 

I'm just not sure that the Dems unleashing their justice department on the opposite side like a rabid dog will play well with the electorate. Let's see.

Ahhh Jonny it’s not the (dems) justice department just so you know it is the DOJ of the United States of America it is a separate branch of government the Biden administration is being very careful to respect that separation unlike the previous administration so naaa not buying it 

[thaibeachlovers]

21 hours ago, Emdog said:

Good. I'll have to put myself on "vampire sleep schedule" as trial will be 12 hrs time difference from here (for part, daylight savings and all east coast)

LOL. The court proceedings are likely to put one to sleep, IMO.

Real courts are not like the ones on tv. It'll be hours of lawyers speaking and not much if any action.

The real action will be outside the courtrooms where there will likely be some demonstrations, unless they have closed all the streets for miles.

 

However, I could be wrong and Trump will have the opportunity to diss a lot of people if they ever let him near the witness chair.

[thaibeachlovers]

16 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

From the above linked Emerson Poll:

 

In a hypothetical matchup between Trump and Biden, 46% would vote for Trump and 44% Biden. 

 

Despite losing ground in the Republican Primary, support for Donald Trump in a hypothetical matchup against Joe Biden increased two points since last week’s poll,” Kimball said.

Yup. Every time they come up with yet another attempt to legally prevent him standing for POTUS it increases his popularity. IMO more and more people are seeing through the bs and seeing it for what is really happening in an election cycle.

 

However, they should carry on making him more and more likely to win in 24.

[jerrymahoney]

Just to keep things simple:

 

If the Georgia trial remains in State Court, it can be televised.

 

If the trial is moved/remanded to Federal Court, it cannot be televised.