Shocking treatment: Thai-American couple demands justice after electric shock in Chon Buri hotel jacuzzi

[Alex19]

American mentality, sue or try to get money for whatever reason.

 

[transam]

1 minute ago, Alex19 said:

American mentality, sue or try to get money for whatever reason.

 

Oh really, so if your hotel water thingy gave you electric shocks, you would do nothing...?  

[steven100]

4 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

There's nothing wrong with compensation, especially if they received some injuries. 

 

In Thailand the legal consequences of having poor electrics in public places is extremely limited - The only way to take such issues more seriously is to make them care.

When a lack of safety standards costs businesses and authorities a lot of money, only then Thailand will become safer for the rest of us. 

 

Thus: While people may not think the issue of compensation is an important one, it actually is, because when businesses know there is a risk of excessive compensation costs they'll care enough to ensure their premises are safe. 

 

 

so after a short time she felt numb ....   bs ....   either you get electrocuted or you don't. 

she's trying the game .....   and you are naive to think otherwise

[FruitPudding]

3 hours ago, Sig said:

I got curious because I've seen it used both ways - injury & death, so I looked it up. If the article and the woman are to be taken at face value, they were electrocuted. "Electrocution" encompasses severe or bad injury, not only death, which it appears you may have been inferring. Of the 5 dictionaries I checked, one of them only had death in the definition. All the others included injury.

Yes, some dictionaries include injury, though it would generally be used in the industry (which I worked in before) to describe death ( and it comes from the word 'execute') or maybe sometimes when someone experienced a serious, near death injury, like they got frazzled -- not just a small shock.

 

Electrocuted is a very strong word and usually used to describe death (or near death perhaps)

 

Otherwise, what's the difference between electrocuted and electric shock? Death is usually the difference, or maybe some life-altering, serious, grievous injury.

 

I've had numerous electric shocks. I've never been electrocuted.

 

I didn't know there were 5 dictionaries that actually mattered. I checked Cambridge. It just said "death." I didn't see it mention injury, but know others do, such as Oxford.

Okay, if you are saying they got electrocuted. What injury did they sustain to make you say that? They felt the electricity isn't enough.

 

I feel as though you would render the the phrase 'electric shock' obsolete, cos apparently even the slightest shock is enough for you to say electrocuted. 

 

It is a very strong word.

[riclag]

Did you guys  do a couple of

Saa thoo Saa thoo ,

and thank buda 

your still alive?

 
Your very lucky to be alive

 

[metisdead]

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[steven100]

10 hours ago, FruitPudding said:

They got an electric shock.

 

They were not electrocuted.

 

The quality of journalism couldn't be any worse.

yes ...  it is garbage ...   like a 4 yr old kid wrote it.      pathetic

[still kicking]

3 minutes ago, steven100 said:

yes ...  it is garbage ...   like a 4 yr old kid wrote it.      pathetic

Just like your posts 

[bbko]

3 hours ago, Sig said:

Although I can understand why you may want to equate your experience in some way or another to the point at hand, basing an opinion on personal anecdotal experience isn't the wisest way to form an opinion from which to judge other people's disasters against. Organ damage or brain damage may not be readily known and the unborn child may also be affected. As you mentioned, we don't know the voltage or amperage. We also don't know how long they were shocked for. They don't know either. They have their ideas, but it is not knowable (unless there is something that wasn't reported) if it happened during the last few seconds before they were able to get out or if it was a low level long term exposure. There are so many unknowns, it is ridiculous for people to make their judgments toward this family with such callousness. Electrical shocks also do not affect every person in the same way. You can shock different people in the exact same way and have completely different outcomes - from death to near no effect. The crude mental toxicity on this forum is insane (that isn't directed toward you. I'm just stunned by the level of lunacy in here.).

Kudos on a smart and non-cofinational response. Your point is well taken. But to assume the worst for this case (baby brain damage, etc) is jumping the gun. We don't know how little or how "big" they were exposed to, but it sure wasn't an electrocution. 

[Deserted]

7 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

Is this you writing or the brain damage?

Hard to answer because you are never the same with it. Everything is different, yourself too so I am told by everyone. 

[NorthernRyland]

Just now, Deserted said:

Hard to answer because you are never the same with it. Everything is different, yourself too so I am told by everyone. 

damn hope you're doing well despite the injury.

[TigerGuardian]

There is no doubt in my mind this family is very lucky to have survived such an incident. And while the expectant mother is wise to be concerned about possible effects on her baby and her family, I must add: given my hospital and intensive care experiences, expectant mothers are typically cautioned to limit their time in a jacuzzi or hot tub for only ten minutes. And depending on the water temperature, ten minutes may be too long. Most physicians I know recommend that a jacuzzi or hot tub be avoided during pregnancy. I wish them all the best ????

[Deserted]

2 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

damn hope you're doing well despite the injury.

Yes fine thanks. It's just a question of adjusting and adapting. It takes time but you have to accept there are physiological changes in play which can't be managed. Stopped having seizures, which is a big relief.

[Kalasin Jo]

11 hours ago, FruitPudding said:

That sounds like a 500 baht and a wai offense.

And a big basket of fruit ????

[Captain Monday]

I tried an electric bath one time and got out right away, very unpleasant feeling.

 

https://www.amusingplanet.com/2016/08/denki-buro-electric-baths-of-japan.html

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

14 hours ago, simon43 said:

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After 20 minutes in the pool, they all felt numb all over their bodies and found it difficult to move their legs and arms.

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The symptoms sound very strange.  Was it actually proven that there was an electrical fault?  Perhaps the hotel was using 'cannabis water' in their jacuzzi!

 I was going to say the same thing... The symptoms described by the couple don't sound like any kind of "electrocution" in water or moderate level electrical shock I've ever heard of...

 

There have been all kinds of pool / spa related electrocutions reported here in Thailand in the past involving hotel guests, some fatal, and other providing quite a nasty shock. Usually down to shoddy electrical work combined with water at the site.

 

 

[Screaming]

You pay good money for shock therapy in some hospitals. I had the opportunity to observe this procedure at a hospital when my niece was a nurse. After the shock treatment they gave the group of patients a bowl of cereal. I am not sure what the cereal was all about but it was part of the therapy. Maybe the hotel should give this couple a bowl of cereal.

[The Old Bull]

I guessed the problem would be electrical before opening the site. Most probably the initial installation by a qualified electrician but repairs by anyone that owns a screwdriver.

[NickyLouie]

3 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

I tried an electric bath one time and got out right away, very unpleasant feeling.

 

https://www.amusingplanet.com/2016/08/denki-buro-electric-baths-of-japan.html

 

Bet that would make yer nads tingle. 

 

[John harrison]

Common enough in Thailand.... 

[richard_smith237]

8 hours ago, steven100 said:

so after a short time she felt numb ....   bs ....   either you get electrocuted or you don't. 

she's trying the game .....   and you are naive to think otherwise

& you highlight an absence of education….  Nothing personal, but it’s so obvious.

[jacko45k]

16 hours ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Is not the same, she is Thai.

Plenty of instances of Thais being pursued for defamation cases, I wouldn't presume it could not happen. I agree many (not just the USA people), are ready to sue for damages over little, and in their countries they are paid out rather readily.....

Sounds like someone left a grounding wire off......

[jacko45k]

14 hours ago, Formaleins said:

Agree there! Wait until they get back to the USA and then rip these bastards to shreds. make sure as many people know who they are, what they did and the paltry compensation, hopefully they won't be in business much longer. These <deleted>s need taking out.

Compensation for what exactly... it doesn't sound like anything bad happened?.. A little surprised they even offered the 100,000 baht, which isn't really paltry. Sure, there was a danger of a potentially stronger shock, but I don't believe serious compensation should be paid out for maybes. 

Taking out...sure ruin a family and their business......

[steven100]

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

& you highlight an absence of education….  Nothing personal, but it’s so obvious.

with all due respect Richard,  you don't get numb after 20 minutes of being slightly electrocuted.

You eitherget an electric shock or you don't.

[fondue zoo]

8 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

There have been all kinds of pool / spa related electrocutions reported here in Thailand in the past involving hotel guests, some fatal, and other providing quite a nasty shock. Usually down to shoddy electrical work combined with water at the site.

 

Ever since I watched the move Syriana, Matt Damon's 'son' getting electrocuted due to a faulty pool light, and then our maintenance guy testing a wire with his tongue .."it tingles if it's electrics".... w????f    this has been a thing for me lately.

 

Please note our condo maintenance fellow is a great guy, very helpful, but he is going to die. Between his ladders made of old wood and gaffer tape and his questionable electrical practices the clock is ticking.

 

[NokYai611]

Please be cautious in any swimming pool, particularly older pools in Thailand.  The port (normally isolated) used to vacuum (high negative pressure) is very often located on a vertical wall on the pool. In newer pools it’s inside the skimmer receptacle (much safer).
 

If someone forgets to close the port after a cleaning ……swimmers can be seriously injured.  I always check this port when in an unfamiliar pool - and yes twice I have found this port operating.  

[brianthainess]

On 9/16/2023 at 9:45 AM, JeffersLos said:

 

 

The husband was white. 

And he had straight blond hair  His wife went bald

[Road Warrior]

as retired electrician  the good standards of earthing in Thailand is almost unheard of / so good luck with your claim

[richard_smith237]

14 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

I tried an electric bath one time and got out right away, very unpleasant feeling.

 

https://www.amusingplanet.com/2016/08/denki-buro-electric-baths-of-japan.html

According to our resident halfwit…

Thats not possible….. ‘you either get electrocuted or you don’t’ it would be naive to think otherwise !!!!! ????????????
 

16 hours ago, steven100 said:

so after a short time she felt numb ....   bs ....   either you get electrocuted or you don't. 

she's trying the game .....   and you are naive to think otherwise

 

[TigerGuardian]

This family should consider themselves very blessed and lucky that they survived such an incident. That said, I do wonder why she entered the jacuzzi in the first place. I learned a long time ago during my career that expectant mothers were always cautioned by their GP and/or OB-GYN to either limit their time in a jacuzzi (or hot tub) to no more than ten minutes, or preferably, avoid such use all together. Water temperature that is too hot can indeed be a threat to the mother and child and not knowing if the water has been regularly tested and treated for bacteria, can have devastating consequences for everyone.