Minister cited by the Corruption Commission for ‘minor’ role in Boss Vorayuth corruption scandal

[Liverpool Lou]

3 hours ago, pomchop said:

3 hours ago, NORDO said:

An international bounty hunter and 200,000 quid would have settled this charade years ago.

Agree.  I have zero doubt that given an incentive that there are many many operatives that could capture red bull in less than a month and deliver him to Thai custody.

Unfortunately, you have zero comprehension of the law as his case would be thrown out of court because kidnapping, as opposed to legal extradition, is an offence.    There are no such legitimate "operatives" in the real world.

[ChipButty]

whats a minor role? 

[Liverpool Lou]

3 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

There has never been any evidence that he was on the Red Notice list.

Yes, there has, Interpol has confirmed it on a number of occasions and his picture was shown on the publicly viewable area of Interpol's website for a period.  The majority of Interpol's Notice lists are not available for the general public to access. 

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Yes he was , but very briefly!????

"Interpol issued an international wanted notice against him, but it no longer appears on the site.

...but it no longer appears on the publicly accessible part of the site.

Edited September 19, 2023 by Liverpool Lou

[Liverpool Lou]

32 minutes ago, shackleton said:

Boss will never be held to account for his crime 

He cannot be if he is not in Thailand, the only place where Thailand has jurisdiction.

[rudi49jr]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

The lack of action in the ‘Boss’ Vorayuth affair undermines confidence in the Rule of Law in Thailand.

What Rule of Law? There is only the Rule of Money: those who have enough of it, can do whatever the hell they want.

[MikeN]

6 hours ago, spermwhale said:

 What I think is really weak is that NO Thai newspaper has the gonads to do some investigative journalism 

The last investigative journalism in Thailand that I can recall was the story on the airport runway cracks, and look what happened to the journalist then! https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2007/2/2/sacked-for-exposing-airport-cracks

[Liverpool Lou]

21 minutes ago, Hardcastle P said:

Not on the Red list we have known that for some time ,it's not difficult check it out 

It actually is impossible to check out as most of Interpol's Red Notice list is not publicly accessible.  Its website only shows a small proportion of those on the list.

[Liverpool Lou]

23 minutes ago, Hardcastle P said:

Not on the Red list we have known that for some time

"We" have not ever known that.  His details were shown on the publicly available section at one time.

[Chongalulu]

7 hours ago, Fujionrye said:

I've played a minor role in my wife's pregnancy.

I was glad to carry the lions share of the load for you…

[connda]

9 hours ago, webfact said:

It has also come to light that Mr Vorayuth Yoovidhya or ‘Boss’ is currently not featured on the Interpol Red Notice list of fugitives wanted by authorities in Thailand despite being placed on it by the Royal Thai Police in October 2020.

It's called Selective Enforcement.  Interpol Red Notices are for commoners and political enemies.

[connda]

They'll probably be some low level cops rotting in prison when the Statutes of Limitations run out and the kids waltzes back into Thailand a free man......and laughing and laughing and laughing.

[Liverpool Lou]

2 minutes ago, connda said:

Interpol Red Notices are for commoners and political enemies.

In reality, Red Notices are not all available for viewing by "commoners" or anyone who is not a serving member of a member police force!

[Chongalulu]

6 hours ago, Pique Dard said:

...so what would he have done to qualify as a major player?

 

25 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Unfortunately, those "international bounty hunters" only exist in your imagination and movies, not real life.

Oh no! So Dog was just a charade of a programme  ? How deflating ???? 

[hotchilli]

36 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Yes.  Confirmed by Interpol several times and seen on the public area of the site for a period.

For a period... not bad for a murderer

[paul1804]

So a Police General who is obviously a receiver of "brown envelopes"  is the newly appointed education minister!

[pomchop]

38 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Unfortunately, you have zero comprehension of the law as his case would be thrown out of court because kidnapping, as opposed to legal extradition, is an offence.    There are no such legitimate "operatives" in the real world.

 As for zero comprehension of the law let's start with the Thai authorities for refusing to find and extradite him...ok i take that back.  They surely must know that the law would require his apprehension but the big brown suitcases full of red bull cash say it is not in their interest to enforce the law.

[Smokey and the Bandit]

55 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

...but it no longer appears on the publicly accessible part of the site.

I was quoting directly from CNN! You are not!????

[Mavideol]

the quantity of involvement doesn't matter, what matters is that HE WAS INVOLVED, the quantity $$$$$$ also matters, a corrupt always a corrupt, when you are guilty you are guilty not a little guilty or a lot guilty, guilty is guilty, like dead os dead not a little dead or a lot dead

 

I would like to know the definition of MINOR role by the corruption commission, they really play people for stupid

Minister cited by the Corruption Commission for ‘minor’ role

Edited September 19, 2023 by Mavideol

[Liverpool Lou]

33 minutes ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

...but it no longer appears on the publicly accessible part of the site.

I was quoting directly from CNN! You are not!????

No, you're right I am not quoting from CNN (does CNN have some special credibility?), I am quoting Interpol.    Interpol has issued statements on the accessbility of the Red Notice list a number of times.  The majority of it cannot be accessed by the public.

[Liverpool Lou]

57 minutes ago, pomchop said:

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Unfortunately, you have zero comprehension of the law as his case would be thrown out of court because kidnapping, as opposed to legal extradition, is an offence.    There are no such legitimate "operatives" in the real world.

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 As for zero comprehension of the law let's start with the Thai authorities for refusing to find and extradite him...ok i take that back.  They surely must know that the law would require his apprehension but the big brown suitcases full of red bull cash say it is not in their interest to enforce the law.

Let's stick with your zero comprehension of the law.  Thai authorities cannot extradite anyone without the agreement and cooperation of the authorities in the country that he is located, the RTP can only request extradition.  If that country does not agree to extradition, that's their prerogative, they do not have to comply.   

 

That the RTP knows that his apprehension is a requirement of Thai law is of no consequence if he is not located within the jurisdiction of the Thai authorities, they cannot just demand that another country bows down to their demands and arrests him.

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Yes.  Confirmed by Interpol several times and seen on the public area of the site for a period.

For a period... not bad for a murderer

"Seen" publicly for a period but not removed from the list according to Interpol.   Most Red Notices are not seen by the public...they do not need to be.  You do know that he is not charged with murder, yes?   That's because he did not murder anyone.

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, nchuckle said:

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Unfortunately, those "international bounty hunters" only exist in your imagination and movies, not real life.

Oh no! So Dog was just a charade of a programme  ? How deflating

I did not say that.  He is/was a bounty hunter in the US, he is not an "international bounty hunter" permitted to operate wherever he chooses because bounty hunters are not legally recognised entities in most jurisdictions.  

[Chongalulu]

14 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

I did not say that.  He is/was a bounty hunter in the US, he is not an "international bounty hunter" permitted to operate wherever he chooses because bounty hunters are not legally recognised entities in most jurisdictions.  

Think you missed the tongue in cheek aspect...

[Mr Meeseeks]

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

He cannot be if he is not in Thailand, the only place where Thailand has jurisdiction.

He was living in Thailand in plain sight up until 2017.

 

The crime was committed in 2012.

[Mr Meeseeks]

1 hour ago, paul1804 said:

So a Police General who is obviously a receiver of "brown envelopes"  is the newly appointed education minister!

Par for the course here.

 

At least he is not a heroin trafficker. 

[Liverpool Lou]

1 minute ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

He was living in Thailand in plain sight up until 2017.

 

The crime was committed in 2012.

I know that.

[Mr Meeseeks]

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

"We" have not ever known that.  His details were shown on the publicly available section at one time.

Have you got a screenshot to prove this? 

[Mr Meeseeks]

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Yes, there has, Interpol has confirmed it on a number of occasions and his picture was shown on the publicly viewable area of Interpol's website for a period.  The majority of Interpol's Notice lists are not available for the general public to access. 

Link to an Interpol source (not Thai) confirming this to be the case, thanks in advance.

[Liverpool Lou]

Just now, Mr Meeseeks said:

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

"We" have not ever known that.  His details were shown on the publicly available section at one time.

Have you got a screenshot to prove this? 

No, I do not need to prove what I saw at the time.  Have you got anything to prove that he has never been on the Red Notice list?