Defiant Trump turns up at $250m New York fraud trial to blast 'scam'

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Former President Donald Trump has attacked a judge and prosecutor in a day of courtroom drama as he attended the opening of a fraud trial that could threaten his business empire.

On entering the room on Monday dressed in a blue suit, Mr Trump - who turned up voluntarily - looked ahead as he walked past the prosecutor who brought the case.

State's attorney general Letitia James, sitting in the front row, averted her gaze.

Their paths did not cross for the rest of opening statements as both sides laid out their case.

Mr Trump, the Trump Organization, several executives and two of his children - Donald Jr and Eric - are the defendants in the civil trial in New York Superior Court.

 

• Fact-checking Trump's claims about NY fraud trial

 

They are accused of fraud, falsification of business records, issuing false financial statements and conspiracy.

 

As the trial got under way, the former president occasionally glanced in the direction of Judge Arthur Engoron as he addressed the court.

Moments beforehand, in a tirade outside court that echoed across the chamber, Mr Trump had called the judge a "rogue adjudicator".

 

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[Skipalongcassidy]

Sorry... opening day did not ignite the hate and vitriol that you are looking for... instead it had the court vacate about 80% of the charges.

[Tug]

Uh ho no protestors no court employees blubbering and shrieking flogging themselves in protest and grief about the cruel injustice of poor trump oh the heavens lmao ???? me thinks the walls are closing in on mr trump

[Chomper Higgot]

A small detail.

 

$250,000,000 is the starting price.

[ballpoint]

The headline is correct.  Trump's scam is getting blasted.

[LosLobo]

I had to laugh at the opening statement by the lawyer of two of the Trump Crime Family, whose patriarch is a serial liar and is currently indicted for 91 felony charges.

 

Pot Kettle Black comes to mind.

 

CNN 3/10/23

 

[FritsSikkink]

3 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Sorry... opening day did not ignite the hate and vitriol that you are looking for... instead it had the court vacate about 80% of the charges.

What charges have been vacated?

[Eric Loh]

3 hours ago, Social Media said:

Mr Trump had called the judge a "rogue adjudicator".

Way to go Trump with the name calling of the judge when he is the sole arbiter of the fraud charges. His lawyers look mortified by Trump’s idiocy. 

[thaibeachlovers]

Go Mr Trump go, and expose the politics involved in bringing this case at this very point in time.

I hope he gets damages when the case against him personally is dismissed.

[Eric Loh]

14 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Go Mr Trump go, and expose the politics involved in bringing this case at this very point in time.

I hope he gets damages when the case against him personally is dismissed.

Point of order. Trump's fraud claims by LJ began four and half years ago when he was still the President and way before he announced his 2024 bid. Judge that Trump maligned by calling him a rogue judge has already ruled that he committed fraud. Snow ball chance that the case will be dismissed but you can dream. 

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

Way to go Trump with the name calling of the judge when he is the sole arbiter of the fraud charges. His lawyers look mortified by Trump’s idiocy. 

That's ok, I'm sure the jury will.....

 

Oh yeah, he opted out of a jury trial.  Wow, new standards of idiocy.

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Go Mr Trump go, and expose the politics involved in bringing this case at this very point in time.

I hope he gets damages when the case against him personally is dismissed.

Are you for real? Have you read nothing about the content of the case?

This case has no chance of getting dismissed. There will be more cases coming after this brought up by banks, insurers and the tax office as they are all a victims of his business fraud.

[Realworld]

thaibeachlovers

Go Mr Trump go, and expose the politics involved in bringing this case at this very point in time.

I hope he gets damages when the case against him personally is dismissed.

 

Another ridiculous comment, maybe read about the case and trial, before making yourself look so stupid.

Edited October 3, 2023 by Realworld

[earlinclaifornia]

1 hour ago, Realworld said:

thaibeachlovers

Go Mr Trump go, and expose the politics involved in bringing this case at this very point in time.

I hope he gets damages when the case against him personally is dismissed.

 

Another ridiculous comment, maybe read about the case and trial, before making yourself look so stupid.

Contagious to some of the posters here. Can't take the time to become aware. Scary and more like redneck America than Thai retires.

[Realworld]

36 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Contagious to some of the posters here. Can't take the time to become aware. Scary and more like redneck America than Thai retires.

He is not a Thai retiree, he even failed on that. He is just another Dunning Kruger expert.

[Danderman123]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Go Mr Trump go, and expose the politics involved in bringing this case at this very point in time.

I hope he gets damages when the case against him personally is dismissed.

Were you drunk when you posted that?

 

How does this case get dismissed? Trump is already on the hook to lose $250 million. The point of the trial is to determine how much more he is going to lose.

 

Reality check for you: either there is a grand conspiracy among prosecutors and judges nationwide to "get" Trump, 

 

Or....

 

Trump is a crook.

 

Given his record, which do you think is the answer?

[ballpoint]

9 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

What charges have been vacated?

One of the prosecution witnesses gave testimony on papers from 2011, but a New York appellate court has ruled that only allegations from 2014 onwards can be used as evidence.  The judge warned the witness about this, saying it was a waste of time to present papers from then, unless they could be related to later events.  When Trump exited the court he jumped on this and came up with the "80% of charges have been vacated" line himself, even though no one else saw it that way.  The MAGA brigade are getting excited over another piece of Trump fiction.   Some of the MAGA sites and YouTube channels are reporting it, but not many.  Some of the (to them serious) comments made as they get their hopes up are hilarious, but rather than encourage views on them I'll just link to this Daily Mail report on it:

 

"Trump makes wild claim that 80% of fraud case could be THROWN OUT because statute of limitations has expired: President gives thumbs up in court - as judge slams prosecutors for a 'waste of time' for having accountants testify"

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12586351/Trump-makes-wild-claim-80-fraud-case-THROWN-statute-limitations-expired-President-gives-thumbs-court-judge-slams-prosecutors-waste-time-having-accountants-testify.html

[Danderman123]

18 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Sorry... opening day did not ignite the hate and vitriol that you are looking for... instead it had the court vacate about 80% of the charges.

Wow. You believed Trump. You lose 2 points.

 

Never believe Trump, you should have learned that by now.

[Danderman123]

Trump doxxed a court clerk, the judge issued a gag order for Trump, now Trump is playing with fire.

 

It's rare when someone tells Trump he can't do something. This will not go well.

 

Doxxing a court clerk is not part of any political campaign, BTW. 

[thaibeachlovers]

10 hours ago, Realworld said:

He is not a Thai retiree, he even failed on that. He is just another Dunning Kruger expert.

Nothing to say other than pathetic insults?

[thaibeachlovers]

5 hours ago, ballpoint said:

"Trump makes wild claim that 80% of fraud case could be THROWN OUT because statute of limitations has expired: President gives thumbs up in court - as judge slams prosecutors for a 'waste of time' for having accountants testify"

Win or lose, this is going to be very entertaining as Trump fights back against the IMO politically inspired legal attacks.

He probably has nothing to lose by going on the attack.

 

I doubt the legal fraternity realised that Trump is not the usual subservient defendant that they can intimidate, and are somewhat unsure how to counter it. If they go too far with attempts to gag him his base will react in a way they "don't like", and if they do nothing he'll likely make their courts a mockery.

 

I suspect the campaigners to get rid of Trump through the courts are somewhat aghast that Trump didn't just give up, and is actually gaining more support every time they come up with another legal attack.

[thaibeachlovers]

17 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Trump doxxed a court clerk, the judge issued a gag order for Trump, now Trump is playing with fire.

 

It's rare when someone tells Trump he can't do something. This will not go well.

 

Doxxing a court clerk is not part of any political campaign, BTW. 

I had to google doxxing

Doxing (sometimes written as Doxxing) is the act of revealing identifying information about someone online, such as their real name, home address, workplace, phone, financial, and other personal information. That information is then circulated to the public — without the victim's permission.

 

At this point does Trump have anything to lose by doing so? With 90+ charges against him, a few more will not matter, will they?

[Tug]

28 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I had to google doxxing

Doxing (sometimes written as Doxxing) is the act of revealing identifying information about someone online, such as their real name, home address, workplace, phone, financial, and other personal information. That information is then circulated to the public — without the victim's permission.

 

At this point does Trump have anything to lose by doing so? With 90+ charges against him, a few more will not matter, will they?

Well he has his freedom to lose seems they are getting fed up with his mouth if it starts yapping again endangering others he can just sit in jail works for me!

[thaibeachlovers]

19 minutes ago, Tug said:

Well he has his freedom to lose seems they are getting fed up with his mouth if it starts yapping again endangering others he can just sit in jail works for me!

Yes, they could lock him up, but I'm pretty sure they realise what the political fallout would be if they did so.

Seems they bit off a bit more than they can chew with this defendant.

 

Meanwhile Trump just keeps getting more support every time he appears in court.

[pacovl46]

16 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Way to go Trump with the name calling of the judge when he is the sole arbiter of the fraud charges. His lawyers look mortified by Trump’s idiocy. 

He watched John Wick too many times! ????

[pacovl46]

750 bucks of income tax, two years in a row. Riiiiiiight. Sounds totally legit! 

[Danderman123]

20 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Sorry... opening day did not ignite the hate and vitriol that you are looking for... instead it had the court vacate about 80% of the charges.

Nope.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/engoron-smacks-down-trump/

 

 

[Tug]

44 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Yes, they could lock him up, but I'm pretty sure they realise what the political fallout would be if they did so.

Seems they bit off a bit more than they can chew with this defendant.

 

Meanwhile Trump just keeps getting more support every time he appears in court.

Naaa lock that scofflaw up there may be a few trumpnuts that cause a ruckus and perhaps some violence get them out in the open and crush them get them flapping their yaps on the internet and track them!

[neeray]

16 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Go Mr Trump go, and expose the politics involved in bringing this case at this very point in time.

I hope he gets damages when the case against him personally is dismissed.

Keep dreaming and cheering. The convicted sex criminal and biggest fraudster USA has ever experienced is going down on this one plus many of the other 91 indictments. This is about justice, NOT politics.

[Bkk Brian]

Donnie just received a gag order, he just can't help himself............

 

 

On Tuesday, Mr Trump posted a picture of principal clerk Allison Greenfield with Democratic Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer at a campaign event. In the post, he called Ms Greenfield "Schumer's girlfriend" and said that the case against him should be dismissed.

After a court break, Judge Engoron did not mention anyone by name but referenced the social media incident saying that a defendant "posted to a social media account a disparaging, untrue and personally identifying post about a member of my staff".

"Personal attacks on members of my court staff are unacceptable, inappropriate and I will not tolerate them under any circumstances," he said. "Failure to abide by this order will result in serious sanctions," he said.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67001699