Modest drinker, no p4p, 60k month. Where can my friend afford live?

[NextG]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

While I agree with the sentiment, I never managed to find the place where Thai girls who want to live with broke farangs hang out.

 

If you think that money is the key to women, then money is the key to women…for you. 
Not much different from a woman who depended on her looks and didn’t bother to develop a decent character. 
Money is a bonus….
 

[BritManToo]

17 minutes ago, NextG said:

If you think that money is the key to women, then money is the key to women…for you. 
Not much different from a woman who depended on her looks and didn’t bother to develop a decent character. 
Money is a bonus….
 

How many times have you had free sex with a woman in the past week?

(None of your business = none)

 

One of the problems with the 'i never pay for sex' crew is their failure to mention they have little or no sex, so are basically dishonest men.

Edited October 6, 2023 by BritManToo

[JimTripper]

 

On 10/4/2023 at 6:24 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

I still have the odd bunk-up here and there , I just don't want or need a constant hand holder when I go out 

You would also be saving 50% on all food & drinks. Otherwise, its probably about the same as you would pay eating solo in your home country. That can really add up over time, 3x meals and drinks a day times 30 a month etc.

[NextG]

9 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

How many times have you had free sex with a woman in the past week?

(None of your business = none)

 

One of the problems with the 'i never pay for sex' crew is their failure to mention they have little or no sex, so are basically dishonest men.

I have a woman next to me right now. 
Not Thai, western. 
Even though you’ve not ever met me, I think you have a good idea that I don’t make things up. 
No need for you to be defensive. We aren’t swimming in the same pool. 
 

[BritManToo]

4 minutes ago, NextG said:

I have a woman next to me right now. 
Not Thai, western. 
Even though you’ve not ever met me, I think you have a good idea that I don’t make things up. 
No need for you to be defensive. We aren’t swimming in the same pool. 
 

How many times did you bang her in the past week. (None of your business =0)

My Brit wife shared my bed for 30 years, but would only have sex 1x a month or less.

Like I said most of the 'i never pay for sex' crew have little on no sex.

Edited October 6, 2023 by BritManToo

[NextG]

7 minutes ago, JimTripper said:

 

You would also be saving 50% on all food & drinks. Otherwise, its probably about the same as you would pay eating solo in your home country. That can really add up over time, 3x meals and drinks a day times 30 a month etc.

Have you considered that if you have any value at all to a woman that she wouldn’t allow you to live like that. 
I don’t want to eat out three time a day every day. That’s just ridiculous. 
Over the past week, I’ve not even been out to the shops. Everything has been provided for me. That’s love and are. 
It sounds as if you people have know nothing other than transactional relationships. 

[NextG]

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

How many times did you bang her in the past week. (None of your business =0)

My Brit wife shared my bed for 30 years, but would only have sex 1x a month or less.

Like I said most of the 'i never pay for sex' crew have little on no sex.

What is wrong with you? You sound sex starved. Of course if your ex kept you at bay, you obviously feel the need to make up for it now. Don’t try to compare your existence with mine. You’ll come off badly. 

[BritManToo]

2 minutes ago, NextG said:

Have you considered that if you have any value at all to a woman that she wouldn’t allow you to live like that. 
I don’t want to eat out three time a day every day. That’s just ridiculous. 
Over the past week, I’ve not even been out to the shops. Everything has been provided for me. That’s love and are. 
It sounds as if you people have know nothing other than transactional relationships. 

I don't see my wife as a servant, I can cook my own (and my son's) food.

[JimTripper]

4 minutes ago, NextG said:

Have you considered that if you have any value at all to a woman that she wouldn’t allow you to live like that. 
I don’t want to eat out three time a day every day. That’s just ridiculous. 
Over the past week, I’ve not even been out to the shops. Everything has been provided for me. That’s love and are. 
It sounds as if you people have know nothing other than transactional relationships. 

In Thailand a guy is expected to pay when a couple goes out.

 

So your getting fed for free (or going dutch at 50% on the groceries) lucky you, but unusual in Thailand ????

Edited October 6, 2023 by JimTripper

[NextG]

Just now, BritManToo said:

I don't see my wife as a servant, I can cook my own (and my son's) food.

I also usually cook my own food. I just haven’t been given the chance to do anything. Not even the shopping. I know it’s outside the realm of your understanding and so you try to put an ‘ugly’ spin on it. But it’s all love here. Not transactional. 

[Olmate]

4 minutes ago, NextG said:

Have you considered that if you have any value at all to a woman that she wouldn’t allow you to live like that. 
I don’t want to eat out three time a day every day. That’s just ridiculous. 
Over the past week, I’ve not even been out to the shops. Everything has been provided for me. That’s love and are. 
It sounds as if you people have know nothing other than transactional relationships. 

You people.... ????. you are really the go to guy! lol

[RichardColeman]

We live in Pattaya, 2 bed house 10,000 baht, utilities for us are cheap as we only use air con at night. Internet is not that bad. Think this 'friend' could live quite comfortably in Pattaya if they did not go out partying or whoring !

 

That said, I think life would also depend on what friends overseas status is. If friend has property and a home back in their own country, then life in Thailand would be comfortable as they could basically just spend their money and not need to save anything for emergencies as they could just go home.  if you have no easy home return possible then I would suggest saving as much money as possible each month for later years. Potless say 80 in Thailand would be hard if you could not get any health insurance and not return to homeland

[NextG]

4 minutes ago, JimTripper said:

In Thailand a guy is expected to pay when a couple goes out.

 

So your getting fed for free, lucky you ????

That’s what you think and so that’s how it is for you. 
It’s not what I think. I pay if I want to, not because I have to. 

[BritManToo]

2 minutes ago, NextG said:

I also usually cook my own food. I just haven’t been given the chance to do anything. Not even the shopping. I know it’s outside the realm of your understanding and so you try to put an ‘ugly’ spin on it. But it’s all love here. Not transactional. 

I prefer sex to love with a woman.

My rabbits provide all the love I need.

[NextG]

1 minute ago, Olmate said:

You people.... ????. you are really the go to guy! lol

Yes. The people who proclaim that transactional relationships are the only way. How would you describe them?

[NextG]

Just now, BritManToo said:

I prefer sex to love with a woman.

My rabbits provide all the love I need.

Perhaps that is why you have to pay. Up to you. 

[NextG]

15 minutes ago, JimTripper said:

In Thailand a guy is expected to pay when a couple goes out.

 

So your getting fed for free (or going dutch at 50% on the groceries) lucky you, but unusual in Thailand ????

You possibly won’t believe it, but quite often the first to buy a gift is the woman. 
She might not have been the first to act, but often they are the first to buy a gift and sometimes the first to buy dinner. 
This is one of the things on which I agree with spidermike007….. take your time. 
Remember the lyrics…. “Wise men say, only fools rush in…”

[JimTripper]

5 minutes ago, NextG said:

You possibly won’t believe it, but quite often the first to buy a gift is the woman. 
She might not have been the first to act, but often they are the first to buy a gift and sometimes the first to buy dinner. 
This is one of the things on which I agree with spidermike007….. take your time. 
Remember the lyrics…. “Wise men say, only fools rush in…”

 

Are you a freeloader? It sounds like you're a freeloader????????‍♂️

Edited October 6, 2023 by JimTripper

[NextG]

Just now, JimTripper said:

Sounds like you are living in a different country ????

Wherever you go, there you are…

[newnative]

14 hours ago, Expat68 said:

If you are happy eating like a thai/enjoy cooking yourself, not a big drinker/partygoer then there are plenty of options living away from Pattaya, in fact when I visit my friend in Pattaya some of the most unhappy looking people I have seen live there

    Curious.  Is the friend you visit in Pattaya also unhappy?   If so, I wonder why he continues to live here.  Also curious as to where you are going in Pattaya that you only encounter 'unhappy looking people'.  If you go to the center city areas when you visit, I hope you realize that you are seeing more international tourists and other local visitors than actual Pattaya expat residents.  A bit like forming an impression of Las Vegas residents after a visit to the Strip.

   The vast majority of Pattaya expat residents do not live in the center city tourist area.  They are in Jomtien and Na Jomtien.  Pratamnak and Cosy Beach.  Bang Saray.  Naklua and Wong Amat.  Central Pattaya, for example, has just 34 condo projects, according to Hipflat.   Jomtien alone, of the other areas I mentioned, has 166, but they all have more than the central area.   For an expat, Pattaya offers a huge variety of housing choices, at all price points.  With housing being a major budget item, that's a really big plus.

    In addition to the condo projects, there are hundreds of housing estates in Pattaya, many on the Darkside--that's the area east of Sukhumvit.  Most have expat residents.  Some, like Silk Road estate, have plenty.  They're living normal, ordinary lives.  Once or twice a week they may go into town to do the week's shopping at Big C Extra or visit one of the malls.  I wonder how many of these folk you have run into--and did they all look unhappy?  I'm one of those living on the Darkside with my spouse and we're not unhappy so that's 2 in the happy column.  Yaa us!

    In regard to your comments regarding cooking yourself, eating Thai food, not drinking, partying, etc., you don't have to live elsewhere to do, or not do, any of that.  Pattaya offers plenty of food shopping choices, from Makro to Villa Market, to Big C, Foodland, and Tesco, plus a number of other non-chains.  And, dozens of fresh markets scattered all over.  If you don't want to cook, Pattaya probably has the most choice of different types of restaurants, at a variety of price points, found outside of Bangkok, Chiang Mai, or Phuket.   Next visit, perhaps vary a bit where you go--you might just run into some happy folk living here.

[NextG]

6 minutes ago, JimTripper said:

 

Are you a freeloader? It sounds like you're a freeloader????????‍♂️

From your perspective of someone who perhaps knows only transactional relationships, I am not surprised that you would write such a thing. Are your women freeloaders?

[BritManToo]

9 minutes ago, JimTripper said:

 

Are you a freeloader? It sounds like you're a freeloader????????‍♂️

Sounds like he doesn't have sex to me.

Lots of guys with no sex drive, nothing to be ashamed about.

I wish I had no sex drive, it would save me $$$$$$$$$s

[NextG]

11 minutes ago, JimTripper said:

 

Are you a freeloader? It sounds like you're a freeloader????????‍♂️

I’ll give you an example. Stuck in during the pandemic, I decided to look at TF to keep up some level of communication. Got chatting to a teacher there and told her about my penchant for honey. She insisted on obtaining the best forest honey from her local province when she went home to visit her parents. Spent 250 baht on it. This without even meeting her. 
I could give more examples…

Just normal. 

[NextG]

7 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Sounds like he doesn't have sex to me.

Lots of guys with no sex drive, nothing to be ashamed about.

I wish I had no sex drive, it would save me $$$$$$$$$s

You won’t ever get it. You want them more than they want you. So you have to beg or pay. 

[pomchop]

Everyone has a different definition of comfortable life but for most 60 k baht a month is plenty to rent a pleasant condo in a big relatively new complex, eat three good meals a day unless you insist on all farang imported type foods, have a few beers a night and cover all the basics like phone baht buses occasional basic massages etc.....the big issue for OP is likely health insurance and visa and how he wants to deal with that. 

 

Not being a part of P4P will save you a LOT of $$ and contrary to what a lot seem to think not every guy necessarily wants or needs that for a variety of reasons.

[EVENKEEL]

Any 65+ guy who says they get laid with a 35 yr old Thai lady because the lady doesn't expect something in return and she's into him is truly oblivious to the facts.   Much like any women in the west would expect.

Edited October 6, 2023 by EVENKEEL

[BritManToo]

34 minutes ago, NextG said:

You won’t ever get it. You want them more than they want you. So you have to beg or pay. 

And you don't want them at all apart from for a bit of housework and cooking.

Your mom is usually free, it's sex partners that cost.

Edited October 6, 2023 by BritManToo

[Nick Carter icp]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

How many times have you had free sex with a woman in the past week?

(None of your business = none)

 

One of the problems with the 'i never pay for sex' crew is their failure to mention they have little or no sex, so are basically dishonest men.

It is abnormal to tell everyone about your sex life , that info is kept private .

    Its just the strange guys who tell everyone else about themselves having sex , most of us don't share that info with others 

[BritManToo]

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

It is abnormal to tell everyone about your sex life , that info is kept private .

    Its just the strange guys who tell everyone else about themselves having sex , most of us don't share that info with others 

You live in the UK, no need to tell us you're getting none!

[Nick Carter icp]

4 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

You live in the UK, no need to tell us you're getting none!

I prefer to keep my personal life private .

Like.....................

* I ave sex with the woman who works in the offy three times a week, on Monday , Thursday and Sunday afternoons when the shop closes , how often to you have a sex* 

   ????