ISRAEL IS AT WAR !

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, Paul Catton said:

Agree and disagree.

250 innocents murdered by fanatics at a party was a Hamas atrocity, likewise another 800 civilians being slaughtered.

IDF enforcing a collective punishment against 2.000,000 Palestinian civilians (excluding Hamas political or military divisions) has gone beyond the realm of self-defence to the point of genocide.

Funny how you forgot about the 230+ civilians the Hamas terrorists kidnapped including babies and elderly. Oh they still have them also.

[Lemsta69]

1 minute ago, JBChiangRai said:

What we do in the UK is jail them

 

If the UK was involved in such a life and death struggle again, your "holy" men would be blessing the bomber squadrons again just like they did in WWII...

 

[Neeranam]

5 minutes ago, bobbin said:

Jesus H..

 

it's becoming tiresome to read your one-sided ad hominem attacks on every poster who disagrees with you,,

 

You could soon become the second poster in 16 years that I have put on Ignore..

I have been there, it's a breath of fresh air when these know it alls disappear. 

[Yellowtail]

1 hour ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Literally?

I am not sure as I am not aware of the precise definition and how it is measured.

Practically?

Yes!

 

As far as my personal opinion goes - any bombing of residential areas is carpet bombing.

 

I guess it all comes down to the difference in our morals and how much value we place on human life, particularly if the humans being bombed don't look, sound or act like us.

 

Lower your standards enough and I'm sure it is quite easy to see all types of bombing of "enemies" as acceptable, even agreeable.

 

What of the fact that Hamas are not the only fanatics, that Israel also has it's own fair share of them, up to including Chief Rabbi's

You admit you don't know what it is, but you keep lying and using it because it makes Israel sound bad. 

 

Typical 

[JBChiangRai]

Just now, Lemsta69 said:

 

If the UK was involved in such a life and death struggle again, your "holy" men would be blessing the bomber squadrons again just like they did in WWII...

 

 Nobody would promote breaking international law or collective punishment.  Inciting hatred is a crime in the UK.

[MrMojoRisin]

6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Do you add anything to the topic aside from who you have on ignore?

You know quite well you are on his ignore list so your post is a rather silly waste of time for everyone, including you.

 

How old are you?

Surely not an adult?

[Paul Catton]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Funny how you forgot about the 230+ civilians the Hamas terrorists kidnapped including babies and elderly. Oh they still have them also.

My math wasn't wrong, 246 were were Army personnel and Police, legitimate targets, erred by 16, prior to the subsequent fanaticism creating the atrocity. 

[Lemsta69]

59 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Does the definition of the bombing really matter when the death toll of innocents is already so high.

 

Of course it does. Area bombing is indiscriminate, at least within the fairly tight target range. 

 

Israel are using precision laser-guided missiles and are targeting specific buildings/infrastructure, not sending up a squadron of BUFFs and flattening the joint. Not that they have a bomber squadron, USA keeps that stuff to themselves.

 

At least they're making half an attempt to minimize civilian casualties, unlike the terrorist death cult they're fighting against.

[Bkk Brian]

55 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

 

Nonsense.

 

If Putin asks Ukrainians to leave before attacking does that make Russia's invasion of Ukraine "self defence"?

 

If stopping Hamas is "self defence" why did Netanyahu support Hamas so staunchly.

What a ridiculous comparison. At what point did Ukraine enter Russia and slaughter 1,400 people along with kidnap 100's more?

[transam]

8 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

You have the patience of a Saint!  You are obviously not taking any sides here and posting valid facts about why this war is happening. Some will never agree that Israel are doing anything bad, regardless of the continued atrocities they commit. 

Some people are not worth putting up with, and the don't let the number of their posts fool you into thinking they have anything worth saying, you'll find they are on a thread like 'post a word similar to the one I just posted' or 'what I had for breakfast'. 

So you support, have no problem with the murdering of Thai folk working in Israel when Israel is trying to catch them.....?

You are a disgrace......😒

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Paul Catton said:

My math wasn't wrong, 246 were were Army personnel and Police, legitimate targets, erred by 16, prior to the subsequent fanaticism creating the atrocity. 

Your maths forgot to add those kidnapped, read my post again...................

[transam]

3 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

You know quite well you are on his ignore list so your post is a rather silly waste of time for everyone, including you.

 

How old are you?

Surely not an adult?

You can talk, got your orange shirt on....?

[MrMojoRisin]

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You admit you don't know what it is, but you keep lying and using it because it makes Israel sound bad. 

 

Typical 

I use my own definition.

 

One man’s terrorist is another’s freedom fighter.

 

Nelson Mandela died highly esteemed (deservedly) yet was involved in the odd bombing or two back in the day.

 

What Israel is doing may escape official sanction via the defence of sharp tongued lawyers, that changes nothing for me.

 

My morals enable me to know a war crime when I see one.

 

Guilty!

[MrMojoRisin]

2 minutes ago, Lemsta69 said:

 

Of course it does. Area bombing is indiscriminate, at least within the fairly tight target range. 

 

Israel are using precision laser-guided missiles and are targeting specific buildings/infrastructure, not sending up a squadron of BUFFs and flattening the joint. Not that they have a bomber squadron, USA keeps that stuff to themselves.

 

At least they're making half an attempt to minimize civilian casualties, unlike the terrorist death cult they're fighting against.

Precision laser guided missiles and yet 3,000+ dead babies.

 

How gullible (or prejudiced) does one have to be to hide behind such transparent idiocy.

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, MrMojoRisin said:

I use my own definition.

 

One man’s terrorist is another’s freedom fighter.

 

Nelson Mandela died highly esteemed (deservedly) yet was involved in the odd bombing or two back in the day.

 

What Israel is doing may escape official sanction via the defence of sharp tongued lawyers, that changes nothing for me.

 

My morals enable me to know a war crime when I see one.

 

Guilty!

Using your own definition doesn't cut it in the real world. This for example:

 

"It seems we are in sync that both the Hamas and the IDF terrorists should be eliminated."

 

All it does is prove your a Hamas apologist

[Lemsta69]

5 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Inciting hatred is a crime in the UK.

 

Clearly not, otherwise they would have banned the Q'u**n years ago.

 

Also the UK is not at war, Israel is, so I don't know why you keep mentioning the place.

[Nick Carter icp]

59 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

 

Nonsense.

 

If Putin asks Ukrainians to leave before attacking does that make Russia's invasion of Ukraine "self defence"?

 

If stopping Hamas is "self defence" why did Netanyahu support Hamas so staunchly.

 

   That is a different topic and yet again whataboutism 

Natanyahu supported Hamas because they seemed the better option than dealing with the PLO at the time 

[Yellowtail]

1 hour ago, MrMojoRisin said:

 

One man's carpet bombing is another man's right to defend themselves.

 

Every single square inch of this topic has columns and columns of text promoting one sides views, whether truthful or not, and denouncing their opponents views, whether truthful or not, that only a fool would take anything at face value.

 

Does the definition of the bombing really matter when the death toll of innocents is already so high. However the Israeli bombing is defined, whatever name is given to it, it does not change the fact that it is just as barbaric as Hamas cutting the heads off babies and burning families alive and gunning down festival attendees.

 

A bloke, or a former Chief Rabbi?

 

This article is over a decade old but it illustrates the fanaticism on both sides.

Anyone who thinks their side is the good guys in this is 1000% wrong.

 

Both sides are as awful as each other.

 

You're lying again. We're not discussing the definition of bombing, we're discussing the definition of carpet-bombing, which you admit you do not understand, yet continue lying claiming Israel is guilty of. 

 

 

 

[Neeranam]

4 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

You know quite well you are on his ignore list so your post is a rather silly waste of time for everyone, including you.

 

How old are you?

Surely not an adult?

Indeed, why would they do this is beyond me, maybe they are embarrassed as to having being blocked for their fundamentalist posts. A lot of strong egos here, thinking they are impartial, when it obvious they are not. Israel drop a nuclear bomb on Gaza and kill all the children - you'll get  'it all started on Oct 7, blah bla blah'.

[Bkk Brian]

7 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

You know quite well you are on his ignore list so your post is a rather silly waste of time for everyone, including you.

 

How old are you?

Surely not an adult?

The words from a Hamas apologist 

[MrMojoRisin]

3 minutes ago, transam said:

So you support, have no problem with the murdering of Thai folk working in Israel when Israel is trying to catch them.....?

You are a disgrace......😒

What are you on about?

 

How can you read the post you are responding too and arrive at the conclusions you have.

 

🤷‍♂️

 

It is absolutely nonsensical.

Bizarre.

 

What is wrong with you?

[Thorgal]

2 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Precision laser guided missiles and yet 3,000+ dead babies.

 

How gullible (or prejudiced) does one have to be to hide behind such transparent idiocy.

 

+1.500 children (-16 Y) are still missing and are under the demolitions/buildings.

[Thorgal]

1 minute ago, MrMojoRisin said:

What are you on about?

 

How can you read the post you are responding too and arrive at the conclusions you have.

 

🤷‍♂️

 

It is absolutely nonsensical.

Bizarre.

 

What is wrong with you?

 

Red herring...(apparently high season for some of us)

[MrMojoRisin]

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

The words from a Hamas apologist 

I have never used the ignore button or report button.

Never.

Not once.

Years and years debating with pro Thai junta numpties and I’ve never even been tempted to ignore someone.

 

Guess what?

[transam]

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Using your own definition doesn't cut it in the real world. This for example:

 

"It seems we are in sync that both the Hamas and the IDF terrorists should be eliminated."

 

All it does is prove your a Hamas apologist

...Correct........

[Neeranam]

What is the death count now? 

[JBChiangRai]

"There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel," will be allowed to head to Gaza, ordered Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant on Monday, October 9. 
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/video/2023/10/09/israel-hamas-war-what-happened-on-day-three-of-the-conflict_6159796_4.html

 

“Let me be clear: The use of starvation as a weapon of war is a war crime.”

These are the words of UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon

(2016)

 

I think Israel has to be very careful not to sink to a level of moral abandonment and in so doing commit war crimes.

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, MrMojoRisin said:

I have never used the ignore button or report button.

Never.

Not once.

Years and years debating with pro Thai junta numpties and I’ve never even been tempted to ignore someone.

 

Guess what?

Bye troll, don't worry I'll still be responding to your nonsense

[Thorgal]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

The words from a Hamas apologist 

 

There are no Hamas apologists on AN.

 

There's nothing wrong to call out ethnic cleansing and other crimes against humanity for non combatant Palestinians and non combatant hostages...

[Yellowtail]

18 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Cookies and flowers, everything else is an antisemitic lie.

 

Zero babies from either side is the only number that would make me happy. I can answer this question quite easily as many times as you ask it.

So, an even more resounding no when asked to support your claim that: "If there was no oppression, land theft and subjugation of Palestinians by Israelis there would not have been an attack by Hamas.". 

 

You are not able to support that claim, so you (as usual) have just posted more nonsense. 

 

Indeed, a one-trick-pony, repeating the same unsupported lies over and over. 

 

You claim one dead baby it too many, but apparently thousands of dead Jewish babies are not enough for you.