ISRAEL IS AT WAR !

[Thorgal]

6 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

But he is a liar like you. 😂

 

Your repetitive provocation doesn't work...can you stay on topic instead of accusing Mr. Neeranam and me.

I've apologized for him (without doing wrong) so it's case closed. 

[Nick Carter icp]

23 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

Is this a school in Gaza?

 

 

    Not sure, but this is the Hamas parliament in Gaza

 

 

 

 

[Wobblybob]

1 minute ago, Thorgal said:

 

Your repetitive provocation doesn't work...can you stay on topic instead of accusing Mr. Neeranam and me.

I've apologized for him (without doing wrong) so it's case closed. 

You stated wrongly wnen you said that your friend has never applauded a racist or a antisemitic post, that is not the case, so stop digging your hole even deeper than it all ready is. You don't fool anyone on here as much as you'd like to. I have never in my life seen such a display of antisemitism! 

[BarraMarra]

5 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

I'm glad it's your opinion. You can't backup with facts.

Can you stay on topic instead of playing the desert psychologist...

Stop bull   ing Thorgal i asked you to prove a carrier was sent you lied i asked you to provide evidence of special forces operating another lie you couldn't back up so don't come on here telling us your backing up with facts your a liar and your facts are always deleted by the mods. So stop the old B/S

[Thorgal]

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Not sure, but this is the Hamas parliament in Gaza

 

 

 

 

 

I don't see the hostages that they freed from Hamas?

 

[Thorgal]

5 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Stop bull   ing Thorgal i asked you to prove a carrier was sent you lied i asked you to provide evidence of special forces operating another lie you couldn't back up so don't come on here telling us your backing up with facts your a liar and your facts are always deleted by the mods. So stop the old B/S

 

On topic please. Thanks.

[Thorgal]

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

What point are you trying to make ?

Sounds like you are boasting about Hamas still holding hostages 

 

No, I'm worried that this ground offensive takes so long to free the hostages if you compare the equipment of IDF : aircraft carriers, helicopters, drones, tanks, satellite, F16's, 300.000 reservists,...

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, Thorgal said:

 

No, I'm worried that this ground offensive takes so long to free the hostages if you compare the equipment of IDF : aircraft carriers, helicopters, drones, tanks, satellite, F16's, 300.000 reservists,...

 

   Its quite likely that Hamas will kill the hostages , so better to view them as already deceased and any that remain alive and freed will be a bonus 

[Thorgal]

Just now, Yellowtail said:

 

Correct, you are a much more creative liar than Kuhn Scotty, he just regurgitates the same ones over and over, you come up with new ones all the time. 

 

And some of yours are real doozies, remember the WW1 aircraft carrier you said the UK was sending? You know, the one that was sold for scrap back in the '40s? 

 

I don't know Khun Scotty.

 

The Argus aircraft carrier transported Harrier fighter jets to the Falklands. These jets raise vertically...but still it's not an aircraft carrier...LOL

 

On topic please. Thanks. LOL

[Yellowtail]

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Its quite likely that Hamas will kill the hostages , so better to view them as already deceased and any that remain alive and freed will be a bonus 

I think the hostages are too valuable for hamas to kill them intentionally. 

[Nick Carter icp]

Just now, Yellowtail said:

I think the hostages are too valuable for hamas to kill them intentionally. 

 

   

   If Israeli forces are approaching and Hamas know that they are going to die soon, they may kill the hostages as well 

 

[Morch]

IDF offers incubators for Gaza newborns, aid to Al-Shifa Hospital

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-773115

 

Sounds a bit daft if they are trying to genocide the Pales....oh.

[BarraMarra]

Where they going to set up field hospitals Bud? Gaza is a pile of Rubble now, by the way you do realise Harriers were flown onto Invincible and Hermes but thats off Topic.

[Morch]

IDF says division has completed capture of al-Shati camp in Gaza

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-says-division-has-completed-capture-of-al-shati-camp-in-gaza/

 

That's the area North of the Al-Shifa Hospital.

 

Hamas has command node under Al-Shifa hospital, US official says

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/hamas-has-command-node-under-al-shifa-hospital-us-official-says/ar-AA1jRKBs

 

US intelligence on Hamas operations under Al-Shifa Hospital supports Israeli claims: Sources

https://abcnews.go.com/International/live-updates/israel-gaza-hamas-war/us-intelligence-on-hamas-operations-under-alshifa-hospital-supports-israeli-claims-sources-104859318?id=104837945

 

[Nick Carter icp]

2 hours ago, Thorgal said:

 

No, I understood that some people don't want to have friendly fire and Judaism as on topic for a topic of Israel.

Some others use the word liar or force apology when they are cornered...wile nothing has been lied or nothing had to be apologized...

 I wasn't  commenting on your friendly fire accusations , but this thread is about a war , the topic of Judaism can be discussed in the Religion forums .

Edited November 14, 2023 by Nick Carter icp

[Yagoda]

5 hours ago, Thorgal said:

 

If you want to learn about Judaism, make some online research about:

 

1. how to take distance (or not) from lies

2. definition of intellectual dishonesty

3. the tricks from Jacob (Book of Jacob)

 

Make also special research about lies for non-Jews like you = Goyim

Wow dude, the last time we had an expert on  Judaism like you was 1940s, dude named Eichmann.

Tell us about christian baby bloood on Passover.

[Morch]

And here's one highlighting some issues with misinformation - 

 

The Horrifying Images Are Real. But They’re Not From the Israel-Gaza War

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/02/us/politics/israel-gaza-war-misinformation-videos.html

https://archive.ph/HcEsA#selection-350.0-350.1

[Bkk Brian]

The apologists on here will of course deny, deflect or come up with some other whacky and sick conspiracy theory to refute the horrors of what really happened.

 

Mutilating a women while raping her, then shooting her in the head while still in the act of rape.

 

More extremely disturbing details emerging from the horrors the terrorists inflicted on some of the Nova festival music women. First hand account from a survivor and witness to the inhuman, barbarous rapes that took place. Other evidence from the terrorists own video footage.

 

Israel festival attack survivor says she saw Hamas rape woman

Israel’s police commissioner Yaacov Shabtai told the BBC after the briefing that this was not a one-off testimony. The nature of some of the violence was hard to speak about, he said.

"You heard how they cut part of the body between one rape and another,” he said. "So you understand those guys came to do something: it’s not the rape, it’s to insult the human being."

So far, there’s little sense of the scale of sexual violence carried out by Hamas during the October attacks, but a police spokesman said they were looking into “multiple” cases.

Source. BBC

 

[Jeff the Chef]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

The apologists on here will of course deny, deflect or come up with some other whacky and sick conspiracy theory to refute the horrors of what really happened.

 

Mutilating a women while raping her, then shooting her in the head while still in the act of rape.

 

More extremely disturbing details emerging from the horrors the terrorists inflicted on some of the Nova festival music women. First hand account from a survivor and witness to the inhuman, barbarous rapes that took place. Other evidence from the terrorists own video footage.

 

Israel festival attack survivor says she saw Hamas rape woman

Israel’s police commissioner Yaacov Shabtai told the BBC after the briefing that this was not a one-off testimony. The nature of some of the violence was hard to speak about, he said.

"You heard how they cut part of the body between one rape and another,” he said. "So you understand those guys came to do something: it’s not the rape, it’s to insult the human being."

So far, there’s little sense of the scale of sexual violence carried out by Hamas during the October attacks, but a police spokesman said they were looking into “multiple” cases.

Source. BBC

 

War is terrible, but eventually the perpetrators will be caught and get their just rewards.

Things could have been so much better if Israel security had been on the ball looking out for the home grown Terrorists of Palestine rather than watching out for the unrest about Israel's internal politics about Bibi.

That and more equal treatment of Palestinians since 2005/6.

[Bkk Brian]

11 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

War is terrible, but eventually the perpetrators will be caught and get their just rewards.

Things could have been so much better if Israel security had been on the ball looking out for the home grown Terrorists of Palestine rather than watching out for the unrest about Israel's internal politics about Bibi.

That and more equal treatment of Palestinians since 2005/6.

Nothing like throwing in victim blaming as deflection for such horrific rapes

[Nick Carter icp]

16 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

War is terrible, but eventually the perpetrators will be caught and get their just rewards.

Things could have been so much better if Israel security had been on the ball looking out for the home grown Terrorists of Palestine rather than watching out for the unrest about Israel's internal politics about Bibi.

That and more equal treatment of Palestinians since 2005/6.

 

  Israel needs to clamp down on Palestinians to stop terrorism  and Israel also should treat Palestinians more equally by NOT clamping down on them 

   So Israel should clamp down on Palestinians and also at the same time , Not clamp down on them 

[Jeff the Chef]

16 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Nothing like throwing in victim blaming as deflection for such horrific rapes

Get it right, perpetrator blaming, you do like deflecting as to who is to blame for all this.

The victims will be forever victims no matter what we all think of the situation. 

[Jeff the Chef]

12 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Israel needs to clamp down on Palestinians to stop terrorism  and Israel also should treat Palestinians more equally by NOT clamping down on them 

   So Israel should clamp down on Palestinians and also at the same time , Not clamp down on them 

Can't quite see how you get to that, but it takes all sorts.

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Get it right, perpetrator blaming, you do like deflecting as to who is to blame for all this.

The victims will be forever victims no matter what we all think of the situation. 

 

  OK, who is to blame for the war that started on October 7 th ?

What caused this war ?

[Eloquent pilgrim]

53 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

War is terrible, but eventually the perpetrators will be caught and get their just rewards.

Things could have been so much better if Israel security had been on the ball looking out for the home grown Terrorists of Palestine rather than watching out for the unrest about Israel's internal politics about Bibi.

That and more equal treatment of Palestinians since 2005/6.

 

Given some of the vile racist and antisemitic comments you have made Jeff, it is no surprise to see you victim blaming again. I noticed in an earlier comment you were making protestations that your comments have the same value as anyone else’s …… I disagree, I think for the most part they are racially motivated and consequently valueless.

 

[Bkk Brian]

32 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Get it right, perpetrator blaming, you do like deflecting as to who is to blame for all this.

The victims will be forever victims no matter what we all think of the situation. 

I got it right, nothing justifies the brutal rape, mutilation and murder all in one act of a woman. Sick to even attempt such a shameful remark

[Bkk Brian]

For those that live in the Al Jazeera bubble and don't believe that the terrorists are in the hospitals hiding out with the locals:

 

A reporter for Al-Jazeera, Hamas's main propagandist, interviewed a Palestinian at a Gaza hospital. The man says: "Why is the resistance (Hamas) hiding amongst civilians? Why don’t they go to hell and hide there?"

The startled reporter abruptly cuts him off. I hope the man is OK.

 

 

[Wobblybob]

A Palestinian man when interviewed about an attack said that the terrorists are hiding amongst the civilians and went on the say "why don't they go to hell and hide there" at that point the reporter abruptly cut him off.

 

 

[Thorgal]

10 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 I wasn't  commenting on your friendly fire accusations , but this thread is about a war , the topic of Judaism can be discussed in the Religion forums .

 

Israeli Friendly fire has been confirmed by Israeli witnesses and news outlets. I did not do any accusation.

 

The religious element in this conflict is on topic and will have a high impact on the further developments, even if you're secular. Netanyahu, Nasrallah, Hamas, Erdogan, etc all comment this conflict with their religious cards.

[Nick Carter icp]

13 hours ago, Thorgal said:

 

I don't see the hostages that they freed from Hamas?

 

 

   Was you applauding Hamas for still holding the hostages ?