10 hours ago, StayinThailand2much said:

The children must be high-maintenance! Do all those 1-week tourists stay at 5-star hotels? Impressive!

You don't understand averaging, do you!

On 10/20/2023 at 12:24 PM, Caldera said:

Comparing this with post-Covid tourism recovery rates in other countries popular with tourists, they're clearly doing something wrong and falling behind.

Since it's regularly mentioned as a sizeable regional competitor I always look at the monthly figures of Vietnam compared to Thailand. Pre-covid 2019 Vietnam attracted 45% of the tourist numbers of Thailand, post-Covid 2023 August year to date Vietnam has attracted 44% of the tourist numbers of Thailand. I'm not sure the major factors negatively affecting Thailand, such as the Chinese slowdown, reduced airline capacity, higher travel costs and general economic factors are any different for the other countries in the region.

Edited October 22, 20232 yr by kinyara
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38 minutes ago, Mike Lister said:

You don't understand averaging, do you!

I do. But I also have a very good idea how they get their (high) expenditure numbers, as I, myself, once was interviewed about my travel expenses by such a tourism authority. Do you?

Edited October 22, 20232 yr by StayinThailand2much

Just now, StayinThailand2much said:

I do. But I also have a very good idea how they get their (high) expenditure numbers, as I, myself, once was interviewed about my expenses. Do you?

Indeed. TAT uses sampling to determine tourism statistics. TAT uses a network of tourist related businesses in various locations, all of whom are required to report tourist expenses, in the same manner and on the same date, every month. This includes nationality, number of nights, average bill, non-room costs, etc etc as reported by hotels, restaurants, tour companies, airlines etc etc. This the same system of calculation that many Western countries employee, as long as the sample is over a certain size, statistically the numbers are reliable. Certain assumptions are built into the calculations, for example, local cash expense that can't reliably be gathered any other way, is  assumed and then factored as a percentage of total expense. At last count, TAT had over 2,600 such business inputs in Bangkok.

10 minutes ago, Mike Lister said:

Indeed. TAT uses sampling to determine tourism statistics. TAT uses a network of tourist related businesses in various locations, all of whom are required to report tourist expenses, in the same manner and on the same date, every month. This includes nationality, number of nights, average bill, non-room costs, etc etc as reported by hotels, restaurants, tour companies, airlines etc etc. This the same system of calculation that many Western countries employee, as long as the sample is over a certain size, statistically the numbers are reliable. Certain assumptions are built into the calculations, for example, local cash expense that can't reliably be gathered any other way, is  assumed and then factored as a percentage of total expense. At last count, TAT had over 2,600 such business inputs in Bangkok.

So, you work for them? (Also, in your propaganda piece, you probably mean 'employ', i.e. a verb. Are you Thai?)

Edited October 22, 20232 yr by StayinThailand2much

5 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said:

So, you work for them? (Also, in your propaganda piece, you probably mean 'employ', i.e. a verb. Are you Thai?)

No I don't and no I am not. And it's not a propaganda piece, it's merely a simple explanation of how sampling is used to develop statistics by marketing companies et al. Most professional survey operate on the same basis, as long as at least 1,100 people are surveyed, the results will be statistically representative of the population as a whole.