Holding together an unruly Conservative party ultimately proved an impossible task for Boris Johnson and for Liz Truss – and now risks looking insurmountable for Rishi Sunak.

The prime minister is increasingly criticised privately by Tory MPs for being too “weak” to stand up to warring backbenchers, amid a host of briefings about him backtracking on key policies.

 

A bill on conversion practices was said to be in the upcoming king’s speech, before a campaign by a leading figure on the Tory right, Miriam Cates, sparked an apparent reverse ferret by the government.

 

Plans to boost housebuilding by axing nutrient neutrality rules have also reportedly been axed, because of the challenge of getting the legislation through parliament.

And a promise to end “no-fault evictions” also looks set to be kicked into the political long grass, in part because of widespread hostility by Tory MPs – a fifth of whom are said to be landlords.

U-turns are not necessarily more common now than under previous prime ministers, or compared with when Sunak took office.

Johnson was often criticised by colleagues for marching them all up to the top of the hill to defend a decision – before retreating. And Truss was forced to tear apart her agenda in the face of market instability and threats by MPs to vote against elements of the mini-budget.

Indeed, in the opening weeks of his premiership, Sunak backtracked on housing targets and a ban on new onshore windfarms.

The moves were designed to neutralise Tory infighting and restore some stability to the party, after its disunity contributed to toxifying the Conservative brand.

 

FULL ARTICLE

One more By-Election should just about do it.

 

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/24/labour-prepares-to-force-byelection-if-tory-mp-peter-bone-suspended

Good riddance.

 

He lost my support after his poodle visit to suck up to netanyahu.

On 10/25/2023 at 9:23 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

One more By-Election should just about do it.

 

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/24/labour-prepares-to-force-byelection-if-tory-mp-peter-bone-suspended

Make that two by-elections:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/26/conservative-mp-arrested-on-suspicion-of-rape-and-drugs-possession

On 10/26/2023 at 5:24 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Good riddance.

 

He lost my support after his poodle visit to suck up to netanyahu.

There goes the crucial New Zealand vote.

As soon as I saw the thread title I knew this would be an article by The Guardian - so predictable.

 

Yes the Conservatives have issues. But as we know Labour always find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. This time I suspect it will be their rampant anti-semitism that will rise to the surface as the conflict in Gaza intensifies. The Corbynites and their "friends" in Hamas will see to that.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12612385/BRENDAN-ONEILL-Jeremy-Corbyn-gone-Hamas-terror-group-friends-inside-Labour.html

 

Is Sunak just another rich man that has no idea of what normal people's lives are like, but think they are qualified to tell them how they should live?

Edited October 27, 20232 yr by thaibeachlovers

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

Is Sunak just another rich man that has no idea of what normal people's lives are like, but think they are qualified to tell them how they should?

 

On 10/26/2023 at 5:24 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Good riddance.

 

He lost my support after his poodle visit to suck up to netanyahu.

Before that, you posted this rhetorical question:

"Is Sunak just another rich man that has no idea of what normal people's lives are like, but think they are qualified to tell them how they should?"

So up until his embrace of Netanyahu, you supported him? Before that he wasn't "just another rich man etc..?"

19 hours ago, JonnyF said:

As soon as I saw the thread title I knew this would be an article by The Guardian - so predictable.

 

Yes the Conservatives have issues. But as we know Labour always find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. This time I suspect it will be their rampant anti-semitism that will rise to the surface as the conflict in Gaza intensifies. The Corbynites and their "friends" in Hamas will see to that.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12612385/BRENDAN-ONEILL-Jeremy-Corbyn-gone-Hamas-terror-group-friends-inside-Labour.html

 

 

Even more predictable that you would counter with an article from the Daily Mail!

On 10/27/2023 at 8:16 AM, JonnyF said:

As soon as I saw the thread title I knew this would be an article by The Guardian - so predictable.

 

Yes the Conservatives have issues. But as we know Labour always find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. This time I suspect it will be their rampant anti-semitism that will rise to the surface as the conflict in Gaza intensifies. The Corbynites and their "friends" in Hamas will see to that.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12612385/BRENDAN-ONEILL-Jeremy-Corbyn-gone-Hamas-terror-group-friends-inside-Labour.html

 

Remind me, why is the Daily Mail often referred to as the Daily Heil, is there some history there?

 

 

On 10/28/2023 at 2:00 PM, Chomper Higgot said:

Remind me, why is the Daily Mail often referred to as the Daily Heil, is there some history there?

 

 

Birds of a feather?

The grifters have been put on notice - only 1 more year to fill their pockets and hide the evidence.

 

“strategists regard a Halloween election next year as the most likely timing. “October 31 is a Thursday,” a source said. “That is what people are working towards.”

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/why-hunt-must-bite-the-bullet-on-tax-in-the-autumn-statement-l23lvvcsm

22 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

The grifters have been put on notice - only 1 more year to fill their pockets and hide the evidence.

 

“strategists regard a Halloween election next year as the most likely timing. “October 31 is a Thursday,” a source said. “That is what people are working towards.”

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/why-hunt-must-bite-the-bullet-on-tax-in-the-autumn-statement-l23lvvcsm

 

12 months should be plenty of time for Labour to screw it up. Again.

 

Now, where's Diane Abbott? Get her back pronto. I'm sure she'll have some wonderful, insightful observations about the current wave of anti-semitism.

 

https://news.sky.com/story/diane-abbott-accused-of-hateful-antisemitism-after-suggesting-jews-do-not-face-racism-12864141

 

34 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Now, where's Diane Abbott? 

Why do you ask?

 

Diane Abbott is very clearly living rent free in your head, ready to pop out whenever you are in need of an off topic diversion away from Tory problems.

 

 

10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Why do you ask?

 

Diane Abbott is very clearly living rent free in your head, ready to pop out whenever you are in need of an off topic diversion away from Tory problems.

 

 

 

Why do I ask? I'm hoping she returns to the fold to create more havoc for Labour. It's always fascinating when someone of her ilk takes centre stage because she lacks the ability to stop her virtue mask from slipping and the true beliefs of Labour are exposed for all to see (as with her anti-semitic comments comparing Jews to Ginger people). It's highly entertaining. 😃

 

Plus the Tories need some help and she could be just the woman to provide it. Although Labour have plenty more gems like Rayner, Lammy, Phillips, Thornberry up their sleeve. All accidents waiting to happen.

 

Come back Diane. We misss youuuuuuuu.... xxx

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

Why do I ask? I'm hoping she returns to the fold to create more havoc for Labour. It's always fascinating when someone of her ilk takes centre stage because she lacks the ability to stop her virtue mask from slipping and the true beliefs of Labour are exposed for all to see (as with her anti-semitic comments comparing Jews to Ginger people). It's highly entertaining. 😃

 

Plus the Tories need some help and she could be just the woman to provide it. Although Labour have plenty more gems like Rayner, Lammy, Phillips, Thornberry up their sleeve. All accidents waiting to happen.

 

Come back Diane. We misss youuuuuuuu.... xxx

Let’s get back to the thread and in the increasingly obvious fact Sunak can’t hold the Tory party together, which particular flavour of Tory fruitcake hopes to make a comeback.

 

I’m of course referring to that darling of the right who came within hours of destroying the nation’s pension industry and who has single handedly massively increased to mortgage interest being paid by millions of people who get to vote at the next election.

 

Yes the dangerous lunatic is your very own favourite Liz Truss.

 

 

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

12 months should be plenty of time for Labour to screw it up. Again.

 

 

I doubt that Labour can do much worse than the current Tory government but even if they do, you'd probably get very generous odds from the bookies that they can't make as big a mess in 35 days as your favourite, Liz Truss, did.

 

(Yes, I know that she was in office for 49 days but she was unable to inflict even more damage for 14 days due to the Queen's passing).

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Why do I ask? I'm hoping she returns to the fold to create more havoc for Labour. It's always fascinating when someone of her ilk takes centre stage because she lacks the ability to stop her virtue mask from slipping and the true beliefs of Labour are exposed for all to see (as with her anti-semitic comments comparing Jews to Ginger people). It's highly entertaining. 😃

 

Plus the Tories need some help and she could be just the woman to provide it. Although Labour have plenty more gems like Rayner, Lammy, Phillips, Thornberry up their sleeve. All accidents waiting to happen.

 

Come back Diane. We misss youuuuuuuu.... xxx

Apparently, you believe in Superwoman who has powers to eliminate deep voter dissatisfaction with  the i conservative performance on the isssues of the NH and economy. You should be posting such comments not here but rather in the fan fiction forum.

11 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Given who the self-appointed referee is, it's a clear triumph for Chomper higgott.

It's a competition? I wish someone had told me. 

8 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

12 months should be plenty of time for Labour to screw it up. Again.

 

Now, where's Diane Abbott? Get her back pronto. I'm sure she'll have some wonderful, insightful observations about the current wave of anti-semitism.

 

https://news.sky.com/story/diane-abbott-accused-of-hateful-antisemitism-after-suggesting-jews-do-not-face-racism-12864141

 

 

In the same 12 months, at least 2 Tory MPs will find out whether they are going to be charged with rape, and who knows how many more will feel the old bill sniffing around them?

 

The public outrage at the billions of pounds of money that Tory cronies stole during the pandemic isn't going to go away - in fact I predict the outrage will grow as more evidence comes to light. 

 

The staggering incompetence shown in their handling of HS2 is going to also become even more problematic. And let's not dismiss this week's confirmation that Johnson saw the economy as more important than lives during COVID.

 

And, of course, brexit isn't going to suddenly look like a wise decision, is it?

 

No, Sunak will soon be able to go back to his multi millionaire lifestyle and, once again, be proudly able to declare that he isn't friends with any working class people.

Edited October 31, 20232 yr by RuamRudy

I thought The Guardian was a lefty rag, so I don't think I will comment......

3 hours ago, transam said:

I thought The Guardian was a lefty rag, so I don't think I will comment......

 

Yes, because heaven forbid you get exposed to an alternative perspective.

3 hours ago, transam said:

I thought The Guardian was a lefty rag, so I don't think I will comment......

Definitely left of centre, but still one of very few serious newspapers in the UK, and it's free online. Also (IMO) the best cryptic crossword of any UK paper.

https://www.theguardian.com/crosswords/series/cryptic

Edited November 1, 20232 yr by chickenslegs

11 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

 

Yes, because heaven forbid you get exposed to an alternative perspective.

Oh hello, RR, not seen you for a while, this must be a Tory bashing thread...........😂

1 hour ago, transam said:

Oh hello, RR, not seen you for a while, this must be a Tory bashing thread...........😂

No need to ‘Bash the Tories’ they’re locked in a cycle of self harm.

 

All opponents of this failing Government need do is stand back snd leave them to it.

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, BenStark said:

 

There is only 1 troll in all these threads, and it's the one who can be identified by his needs of excessive use of emoji's in every post to make his point.

Good morning Ben, nice to see you are paying attention to important stuff............🤭

On 11/1/2023 at 9:16 PM, RuamRudy said:

 

Yes, because heaven forbid you get exposed to an alternative perspective.

I have, the useless Labour Party and the corrupt SNP, then there's the Monster Raving Loony Party, so stop your guessing game........

Troll posts and off topic posts and the replies contravening our Community Standards have been removed.

Edited November 3, 20232 yr by metisdead

On 11/2/2023 at 9:54 AM, transam said:

Oh hello, RR, not seen you for a while, this must be a Tory bashing thread...........😂

 

Hello Tranny, it's always nice to see the villains of the piece being given a good kicking so rest assured, I will always be ready to fight the good fight when it comes to Nasty Party bashing.

What party?  You mean that bunch of back stabbing, incoherent, self obsessed, arrogant, entitled, barely literate morons in {parliament? They are not a party, or a group, or a team, they are a rabble. The ones on the other side of the House are no better.